Blake Griffin vs Kevin Durant vs Derrick Rose

[QUOTE=SCdac]It's too early to say he will or won't be better than them if you ask me. He hasn't even played every team yet, let alone had the opportunity to play with a John Stockton or a Kevin Johnson kind of player.

Per-36 minutes, as rookies, Malone and Barkley were at about 17-18 PPG, and they improved as their careers progressed. Griffin is about on pace with that (better). Both of them had better jump shots than Griffin, but I wouldn't say they were far and away better.

What leads me to believe Griffin is a great offensive player (not just good) is his activity, body control, and ball handling ability. He can score in more ways than one, and as his jumper improves it's only going to open things up for him. Right now he's assisted on about 56% of his shots, which isn't far from current Gasol and Stoudemire (not that those players are as good as the ones mentioned, but it's still impressive on Blake's part).

Obviously he's not as good as prime Barkley or Malone... but it's more appropriate to compare Griff to them as rookies, not as players with 5-6 seasons under their belt. As a rookie, his overall game is very solid, he should/could win ROY right now IMO. Definitely showing flashes of offensive dominance, on a team that's a bottom dweller independent of him.

I don't mind defensive win shares, as long as it's not used as an end-all be-all. Certain players, per 100 possessions, are going to produce better defensively than others, and given the minutes Blake is getting, the rebounds he's gobbling up, and the blocks/steals, it doesn't surprise me he's leading the team in DWS[/QUOTE]

Yes, I admit it's early, and I didn't watch Malone and Barkley as rookies so it's tough to compare, but I don't see Griffin as a guy who will turn into a true legend like those guys, a guy who will damn near lead his team to a title.

I view Griffin as being more of a Kemp/Amare/pre-injury McDyess level player. Somewhere in that group, which is very good still.

Rose
Durant
Griffin

Durant is basically already at this best.. I can't see him improving. Griffin with a good perimeter player will be deadly.. maybe moving up the list. And Rose is just in the best situation to continue putting up crazy numbers.

Rose
Griffin
Durant

durant isnt even the best on his team and is really inefficient. not the type of guy I want leading my team (shooting 20+ times a game on low fg%)

griffin and rose are beasts

Tough one
Blake
Durant
Rose

This is my opinion, doesnt mean it will be this way

Kevin Durant stands out...haven't seen enough of Rose or Blake Griffin to judge them. But all of them will be elite players.

Rose
Griffin
Durant

[QUOTE=YouCallILose]Griffin will never be a top 5 player in the league. He is Shawn Kemp 2.0 or Amare minus a jumpshot/free throw shooting with better rebounding.


Durant is clearly the best of these 3 and this thread is a joke[/QUOTE]
Durant will never be a top 5 player in the league. He is George Gervin 2.0 or Tracy McGrady minus the passing with better three point shooting.

Griffin is clearly the best of these 3 and this thread is a joke.

are we talkieng about a game of 21??? niice questen :/ i think alot of scoring in durant to get the pts but blake'thequake'griffin is avery good to the rebonds and you ened a rebound to get thte 21 but durant a very nice FT shoter. i think durant win it with his scoring and becuse of his FT shoting

[QUOTE=Theoo]are we talkieng about a game of 21??? niice questen :/ i think alot of scoring in durant to get the pts but blake'thequake'griffin is avery good to the rebonds and you ened a rebound to get thte 21 but durant a very nice FT shoter. i think durant win it with his scoring and becuse of his FT shoting[/QUOTE]
I'm asking who will be the best player out of the three

1. Rose
2. Durant
3. Griffin

This is a really difficult question and probably too early to tell.

All have immense physical potential matched with great attitude/work ethic and bball IQ.

The future is bright for the NBA.

If someone put a gun to my head I'd say:

1) Durant (simply because he has proven it)
2) Blake (because of his size)
3) Rose

But I'm not that confident in my ranking...

[QUOTE=Ikill]I'm asking who will be the best player out of the three[/QUOTE]
1.rose
2.griffin
3.durant

1- Durant: He can keep up scoring like a monster since he does not rely on athleticism to do the majority of his scoring. He has shown he can rebound efficiently too. He has to be more clutch of course he wants to one day win a title or two.
2- Rose will be more influential to his team more than ever in the coming years. He needs to reduce his TOs while keeping up the scoring at a high level.
3- B.Griffin: The reason he is third is that I reserve a higher chance of him being sidelined for a long time than Rose due to injury.

[QUOTE=YouCallILose]Griffin will never be a top 5 player in the league. [B]He is Shawn Kemp 2.0[/B] or [B]Amare minus a jumpshot/free throw shooting with better rebounding. [/B]


Durant is clearly the best of these 3 and this thread is a joke[/QUOTE]

LMAO! Okay, Mr. PER (I mean, Mrs. Durant...). Getting ready to pop out some Durantettes?

This post shows that you not only watched basketball before, but you don't watch basketball now. And no- watching, stalking, and drooling over Durant DOESN'T mean you watch basketball.

Shawn Kemp 2.0? Do you know how good of a player Shawn Kemp was set to be? They were calling him the future best player ever. He was exciting, exhilarating, and everything that is right in the game of basketball. Get your facts straight before you compare people. You don't think Shawn Kemp was that overweight dude you saw at the tail end of his career since the beginning, right?

And you're a dumbass for saying Amare without a jumpshot.. Do you not remember Amare not having a jumpshot his rookie year? Do you not remember Malone not having a jump shot his rookie year?

Second, Blake Griffin not only rebounds better than Amare, he HUSTLES more than Amare. I don't think you'll find many better players in the league that are diving for loose balls, taking charges, and changing the game. Clearly you haven't watched the Clippers play.

Not only that, but Blake Griffin has 10x the basketball IQ that Amare has. He's a very good passer and is very good at not only passing out of the double team, but even making plays from the top of the key.

You should open your eyes and realize that there ARE other players other than Durant. Don't be like the Kobe fanboys that went hate mode on Lebron the second they heard rumors of him getting MVP instead of Kobe.

You want people to respect Durant but you can't even respect young talent :facepalm Saying a 20 year old rookie doesn't have a jumpshot.. While he's doing EVERYTHING else, including footwork, post moves, dunks (he gets any shot he wants), even 6-10 from 3 this year.. Makes your argument look retarded. I dare you to answer this, I'll talk to you for days about this topic. Bust out your PER or whatever the hell you need.. You're going to need a hell of a lot of help to get out of the hole you're putting yourself in with statements like these.

[QUOTE=SCdac]It's too early to say he will or won't be better than them if you ask me. He hasn't even played every team yet, let alone had the opportunity to play with a John Stockton or a Kevin Johnson kind of player.

Per-36 minutes, as rookies, Malone and Barkley were at about 17-18 PPG, and they improved as their careers progressed. Griffin is about on pace with that (better). Both of them had better jump shots than Griffin, but I wouldn't say they were far and away better. [/quote]

As rookies, Griffin's touch is definitely better. And Griffin's shot is better from more spots on the floor. Malone was better from the elbow (edge of foul line). While those guys did refine their shots some I can't say they added to their repertoire much at all. I think Griffin has a work ethic that will add more things and refine his shot as well. But this is guess work.
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What leads me to believe Griffin is a great offensive player (not just good) is his activity, body control, and ball handling ability. He can score in more ways than one, and as his jumper improves it's only going to open things up for him. Right now he's assisted on about 56% of his shots, which isn't far from current Gasol and Stoudemire (not that those players are as good as the ones mentioned, but it's still impressive on Blake's part).[/quote] Yeah, this is why I think he has greatness marked on him. His dribble, passing ability, athletism, touch, instincts, body control, power, and speed all mix at a level we only seen in Barkley. That is amazing because Barkley had that nitch sewed up. I also know that Blake's work ethic is vastly superior to Barkley's.
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I don't mind defensive win shares, as long as it's not used as an end-all be-all. Certain players, per 100 possessions, are going to produce better defensively than others, and given the minutes Blake is getting, the rebounds he's gobbling up, and the blocks/steals, it doesn't surprise me he's leading the team in DWS[/QUOTE]
Yes, good points as always.