So are people taking the Mavs seriously as top title contender yet?

[QUOTE=Mr Know It All] Hell, he's one of 5 players EVER to average 25 and 10 in the playoffs.[/QUOTE]
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I don't believe that. Who are the other 4?

[QUOTE=kentatm]there is not a single player in the NBA that Dirk is intimidated by. This is especially true of KG who Dirk has consistently beasted on for the last 10 years. I have seen KG get so pissed from Dirk laughing off KG's barking (as in literally laughing in KGs face) that he got booted from a game.

You piss off Dirk, he is likely to go nuts on you.[/QUOTE]

I will admit it. Dirk is soft to me. I've seen him fold too many times. He doesnt play with enough anger and determination in the playoffs. Now...I admire Dirk's regular season skill...without question. The NBA playoffs are a different animal. NBA playoffs are more about wills than skills. It is all adversity and adjustments. A 7 game series, as we know, is very different than a 1 game showdown.

If Dirk in able to get to the Finals again...there is going to be a Wade capable of taking over 4 games to win the NBA title on the other side. I am going to be shocked if Dirk can get it done. Dirk is going to have to have a whole personality transplant imo. I just cant see it. In that sense I am a Dirk N detractor. Time will tell...

[QUOTE=R4E]I will admit it. Dirk is soft to me. I've seen him fold too many times. He doesnt play with enough anger and determination in the playoffs. Now...I admire Dirk's regular season skill...without question. The NBA playoffs are a different animal. NBA playoffs are more about wills than skills. It is all adversity and adjustments. A 7 game series, as we know, is very different than a 1 game showdown.

If Dirk in able to get to the Finals again...there is going to be a Wade capable of taking over 4 games to win the NBA title on the other side. I am going to be shocked if Dirk can get it done. Dirk is going to have to have a whole personality transplant imo. I just cant see it. In that sense I am a Dirk N detractor. Time will tell...[/QUOTE]

:facepalm

right. one of the few players all time to average 25/10 in the playoffs does not play with enough determination.

[QUOTE=Kurosawa0]I just don't see it with Duncan being old and the Mavs not having a big wing player.[/QUOTE]

What an insightful comment considering Duncan isn't even the goto guy anymore on the Spurs and what the hell do you mean by big wing player really that's what the Mavs need to win the West smh. Go back to basketball school.

[url]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=uGDNbQY_li8[/url]

[url]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=1OmE3B-s8ow&feature=related[/url]

[url]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=4OOAjORA15w[/url]

i could go on

[QUOTE=dutchguy]??
I don't believe that. Who are the other 4?[/QUOTE]


Elgin Baylor, Hakeem Olajuwon, Bob Pettit and Shaquille O'Neal.





Dirk in the playoffs

09-10: 27/8/3 PER: 28
08-09: 27/10/3 PER: 28
07-09: 27/12/4 PER: 26
06-07: 20/11/2 PER: 21
05-06: 27/12/3 PER: 27
04-05: 24/10/3 PER: 20
03-04: 27/12/1 PER: 28
02-03: 25/12/2 PER: 23
01-02: 28/13/2 PER: 25
00-01: 23/8/2 PER: 22

[QUOTE=kentatm]:facepalm

right. one of the few players all time to average 25/10 in the playoffs does not play with enough determination.[/QUOTE]

There is a big difference between a league statistical wonder and a NBA world championship sacred moments baller.

Even the other night when the Mavs closed out the Heat in Miami - it was Terry and Marion closing the Heat out...Dirk was a witness, if that - and the best closers get much respect - it is a very difficult thing to do.

It's funny how short people's memories are. Kobe wasn't getting it done until he was teamed up with Shaq and now Gasol, Gasol wasn't getting it done in Memphis, KG and Ray Allen weren't getting it done in Minny/Seattle.

Sure Dirk played with Steve Nash but on a team that put absolutely no emphasis on defense or really rebounding for the matter. Who was Dirk's most recent side-kick oh that's right the great Josh Howard.

[QUOTE=R4E]There is a big difference between a league statistical wonder and a NBA world championship sacred moments baller.[/QUOTE]
You should watch some of the posted videos.

[QUOTE=R4E]There is a big difference between a league statistical wonder and a NBA world championship sacred moments baller.

Even the other night when the Mavs closed out the Heat in Miami - it was Terry and Marion closing the Heat out...Dirk was a witness, if that - and the best closers get much respect - it is a very difficult thing to do.[/QUOTE]

So what are you trying to argue here? That it's Terry and Marion taking over games for the Mavs you don't have to become a complete fool in an attempt to discredit Dirk and the Mavs. Dirk has been the leader of this franchise when the game is on the line Dirk isn't the one with the problem it's his supporting cast that stinks up the joint. Last year's playoffs Terry and Butler never got settled offensively so many nights it was Dirk putting up the big numbers and minimal contribution from the rest of the squad.

This year with more time to mesh, the addition of Chandler, and hopefully the recovery and development of Roddy Dallas will have a more balanced offensive attack.

Why do we have to ask this question again?
Morons would mention GSW
Bigger morons : Miami
The biggest morons: Mavs chock [B]always[/B] in the playoffs.

U can write 10000 posts about Chandler/their defense this year, the morons would only see Mavs/Dirk and automatically write the same answer.

Lets w8t and see. And maybe they'll make a good trade in the winter.


BTW i don't believe they would win it all. Imo they need another piece.

Have to see it to believe it. If there is an opportunity to choke/flame out in embarrassing fashion, I expect the Mavs to take it more often than not.

[QUOTE=moaz]Why do we have to ask this question again?
Morons would mention GSW
Bigger morons : Miami
The biggest morons: Mavs chock [B]always[/B] in the playoffs.

U can write 10000 posts about Chandler/their defense this year, the morons would only see Mavs/Dirk and automatically write the same answer.

Lets w8t and see. And maybe they'll make a good trade in the winter.


BTW i don't believe they would win it all. Imo they need another piece.[/QUOTE]

I do think another scoring piece is needed for the Mavs though I think they have pretty solid chemistry. But still a look at Rip Hamilton might be a good move. Even though he's old he's in great shape and I think he could contribute a lot.

[QUOTE=Ken_Masters]I think they have a real shot. I've been watching Dallas closely for a few years now, but this is the only year where i think they have a real chance. It's because of their defense. Plus the fact that they have two 7 footers in Chandler & Haywood to throw at other teams. They have size, they can score, and they can defend. They pretty much have everything you would need for a ship.[/QUOTE]Exactly. But I'm still unsure if they're better than the Spurs, Celtics, and Lakers....I know they're better than any other team in the NBA besides those 3. I guess they don't have to be [I]BETTER[/I] to beat those 3 teams, they just have to [i]AS GOOD[/i], and have one or two good shooting games in the series from players other than Dirk to win a series against any of those 3 teams.

[QUOTE=bettalaylow]I do think another scoring piece is needed for the Mavs though I think they have pretty solid chemistry. But still a look at Rip Hamilton might be a good move. Even though he's old he's in great shape and I think he could contribute a lot.[/QUOTE]

Wasn't thinking about a scoring piece. A good defending wingman would be great. An upgraded version of s. Marion :D :D :D .