Why LeBron is (maybe) the best player in the NBA

Blake Griffin

wade cannot defer to lebron, hes finally got a shot at winning mvp by keeping lebron at check in his own backyard.

[QUOTE=bluechox2]wade cannot defer to lebron, hes finally got a shot at winning mvp by keeping lebron at check in his own backyard.[/QUOTE]
Wade has no shot for MVP unless LeBron goes down with injury. They both hurt each others chances of winning the award.

[QUOTE=Mr. I'm So Rad]I'm not saying that he can't because he does do it. And I'm not saying be perfect at EVERY aspect because no one is or ever has been. I'm saying that he has weakness that can be softened. Me personally I don't think it's silly to suggest Kobe as a better, more complete player. MJ didn't always put up the most dominant numbers especially later in his career but e[B]veryone still regarded him as the hands down best player in the league.[/B] (I'm not comparing him to Kobe, LeBron or anyone else it's just for reference). Like I said, LeBron is the Box Score King, but as far as what he is capable of doing in his game right now, his level of skill vs athleticism, he is not the best in my opinion. If you disagree that's fine. We just judge players in a different manner is all.[/QUOTE]

No they didn't.

You judge players on skill rather than actual impact as evident in your argument. Let me ask you, who's better, Dwight or Pau? I mentioned this in my previous post but according to your logic it should be Pau by a wide margin.

[QUOTE=knightfall88]If you think Lebron is the best player in basketball based on his stats than you don't understand basketball.

Here are the reasons why:

A 1st option player needs to be aggresive for the whole game. It is silly compare how many points and FG% between 1st option players because as long as you stay aggressive, you are going to make it easier for your team mates. Now I watch Lebron play a lot and he is too passive and is an opportunistic scorer. This means he only takes the shots that are there. Now this is great and all for his stats but when he can't find his shot he'll throw it at his team mate and expect them to jack one up or he'll do nothing at all. He'll end up with 30pt and 50FG% but his team mates would look awful. There is nothing wrong with the way he plays but thats not how a dominant 1st option should play. Thats why I give a nod to Wade and Bryant. Wade and Bryant if they were in the brink of losing a crucial game in the playoffs would go all in and jack up 15 shots in a row and not care whether they miss it all.

Rebounding - Kobe and Wade have been the better offensive rebounders for most of their careers. Defensive rebounding - for the most part unless you are getting outrebounded - you are taking boards from your team mates and not your opponents.

2009 against Orlando - Lebron when playing poorly wanted to rack up rebounds, ending up not closing on Turk and Lewis and thats why they were going off all series with their 3's.

Assists - Lebron having better court vision than Wade? absolutely stupid. He gets more assist than Wade. He is passes more than Wade. He does not have better court vision. See my first point as to why he gets more assist.

Defense - offball defense is non existent. Steals and blocks are not offball defense. He makes a lot of mistakes that hurts him in the playoffs. He has a bad habit of letting a man run past him so he can go for a block. I remember 2009 against Orlando, he let Courtney Lee run past him at half court so he can get a chasedown, ending up getting dunked on.

All in all, Good thing he is playing with Wade now because Lebron can now get the stats he wants and win playoff games probably as the 2nd option.[/QUOTE]

This might be the worst post ever.Most stupid part was[B][I][U]
"He'll end up with 30pt and 50FG% but his team mates would look awful. "[/U][/I][/B]
How on earth "opportunistic" player scored 30 points on regular basis and still rack up 9 dimes and 7 rebounds and 1,7 steals and 1 blocks.You are kidding right.
You my friend are the troll of the year.
What more can you expect from a player average 50ppg

His own play aside, Cleveland's play has firmly established LeBron as the biggest difference maker in the league. It's hard to argue for anyone else for the league's best player the last 3 seasons.

Lol lebron made wade better. Now wade can focus on scoring only and not trying to set his teammates up. 1 month doesn't change the fact that lebron has been more consistent. If anyone in Miami is gonna win MVP it's gonna be lebron. Lebron without wade 60 wins, wade without lebron 40 wins

[QUOTE=asdf1990]Lol lebron made wade better. Now wade can focus on scoring only and not trying to set his teammates up. 1 month doesn't change the fact that lebron has been more consistent. If anyone in Miami is gonna win MVP it's gonna be lebron. Lebron without wade 60 wins, wade without lebron 40 wins[/QUOTE]

yeah... a team with wade and bosh would win 40 despite wade winning 45 with a far worse cast...

not to mention wade and bosh on the court together have been the most productive duo in the nba with the highest +/- average.

[QUOTE=Indian guy]His own play aside, Cleveland's play has firmly established LeBron as the biggest difference maker in the league. It's hard to argue for anyone else for the league's best player the last 3 seasons.[/QUOTE]

you could argue the point hes the biggest difference maker ever apart from shaq. i mean looking back on jordans career, even he didnt make that much of a difference on a team.

It's useless to debate over whom the best player in the NBA is while we are still in the regular season. That's why we have the regular season MVP award, and it goes to the player who's the most valuable to his (winning) team.

IMO, the best player in the NBA should be decided in the playoffs. If you fail to play to the potential you show all year in the regular season, then your name has no business in being in the best player discussion.

Show me all you can do in the playoffs, then I will give you the award. There's no pre-ordering when it comes to "the best player".

[QUOTE=pegasus]It's useless to debate over whom the best player in the NBA is while we are still in the regular season. That's why we have the regular season MVP award, and it goes to the player who's the most valuable to his (winning) team.

IMO, the best player in the NBA should be decided in the playoffs. If you fail to play to the potential you show all year in the regular season, then your name has no business in being in the best player discussion.

Show me all you can do in the playoffs, then I will give you the award. There's no pre-ordering when it comes to "the best player".[/QUOTE]

youre retarded.

so a player can struggle for 82 games and show up for 25 later and hes the best. what nonsense. keep your bs to yourself.

[QUOTE=donald_trump][B]youre retarded[/B].

so a player can struggle for 82 games and show up for 25 later and hes the best. what nonsense. keep your bs to yourself.[/QUOTE]

[B]Irony[/B].

You didn't have to go to that extreme. Of course no player will struggle for 82 games and play god-like and win the NBA finals for his team.

If you were talking about Kobe, you should know that he's not struggling for 82 games. He has already played bunch of very good games. His name is still in the MVP award discussion (I'd say in top 10), and we all know that him and his team will get out of their current slump (see last two games). So your scenario does not apply to him, and I don't know who else you could be talking about.

It's clear as day that LeBron's the best player in the NBA. Forget stats; watch the damn games.

[QUOTE=donald_trump]yeah... a team with wade and bosh would win 40 despite wade winning 45 with a far worse cast...

not to mention wade and bosh on the court together have been the most productive duo in the nba with the highest +/- average.[/QUOTE]

And bosh has a higher +/- than lebron and wade, James Jones is amongst the top 15 in +/-. don't use garbage stats next time. Lebron James is and will be the best player until he starts to decline. I like what wade is doing and all but lebron is the better player.

[QUOTE=LA_Showtime]It's clear as day that LeBron's the best player in the NBA. Forget stats; watch the damn games.[/QUOTE]


You, Catch24, Doranku, GTS, Socalmike, Lakers1987 and All Net are some of the Non-biased Lakers fans in this forum. I have seen All Net defended LeBron in the Lakersground.logic.net. I swear to God that's the last time I am going to visit that forum.