How Did Hand-check Era = Tougher D and Higher FG%??..

I don't even know the hand-check rules anymore because in any given games it' a foul and in the next it's not. KG still hand-checks, Artest, Fisher.


The playoffs plays host to a great deal of hand-checking. Durant got mugged by Artest.


Hand-checking has been curtailed several times, but the league still allows a good much of it. It's difficlt to get it out of the game which is why we'll always see hand-checking of some sort. It's just a part of the game that no matter how they try to cut it out it still occurs. These rules are more so enforced in the regular than the Post season.

[QUOTE=necya]kobe's FG% will always be weak. it's his game who is like that, he has been a ballhog for so many years, taking stupid shots. kobe has shot better than his own team like 3 times in a 14 years career. he doesn't bring efficiency to his team. all the other great used to shot better than their team. they brought efficiency. no need to to talk about MJ's...[/QUOTE]

Truer words have never been spoken

Calabis totally shut this thread down. Nice work. :applause:

[QUOTE=Fatal9]Westbrook and Rose are two of the quickest players I've ever seen, they should be basically unstoppable due to no handchecking/[B]no touc[/B]h rules right (especially with respectable mid-range Js behind them)? But their scoring efficiency is quite mediocre, what gives?[/QUOTE]

Rose gets touched on nearly every drive. His shots are harder than most players as teams usually converge on him.

[QUOTE=Pointguard]Rose gets touched on nearly every drive. His shots are harder than most players as teams usually converge on him.[/QUOTE]

Rose gets body contacted alot at the rim and doesn't get a call....What i love bout Rose is that he goes to the rim looking to score not to get fouled. That could probably bewhy he does get much foul calls, but it nice to see players going to the rim with intentions of putting the ball in the hoops as opposed to just trying to throw thereself into people.

[QUOTE=Christofire]Rose gets body contacted alot at the rim and doesn't get a call....[B]What i love bout Rose is that he goes to the rim looking to score not to get fouled. [/B] That could probably bewhy he does get much foul calls, but it nice to see players going to the rim with intentions of putting the ball in the hoops as opposed to just trying to throw thereself into people.[/QUOTE]
Yeah, the game is far more into the theatrics than a guy just looking to play the game. When you play to the refs it messes up the integrity of the game. They still play up to the floppers and play down on guys who genuinely play the game. It's becoming clown ball.

[QUOTE=Calabis]And since its the Kobehomers who continue to try to shove this bs down posters throats...let's see why the 2004 rule changes happened

Kobe Bryant, L.A. Lakers, 2004
Lakers vs. Pistons -- Bryant's PER 14.2
"With his feud against Shaq escalating and the series getting away from the Lakers, Bryant began taking whatever shot struck him. Mostly, they struck the rim -- he shot 38.1 percent and had nearly as many turnovers (18) as assists (22) as Detroit romped in five games."

During the series, Mav's owner Mark Cuban made some interesting observations about the defensive play of the Pistons (handchecking as Jordan era players new it was dead, but minimal/temporary contact was still sometimes allowed) and the 'advantage' they had over offensive perimeter players and decided a change was necesary to tip the scales in the other direction...

From his Blog Maverick weblog, Mark Cuban's article 'If It

[QUOTE=Christofire]I don't even know the hand-check rules anymore because in any given games it' a foul and in the next it's not. KG still hand-checks, Artest, Fisher.


The playoffs plays host to a great deal of hand-checking. Durant got mugged by Artest.


Hand-checking has been curtailed several times, but the league still allows a good much of it. It's difficlt to get it out of the game which is why we'll always see hand-checking of some sort. It's just a part of the game that no matter how they try to cut it out it still occurs. These rules are more so enforced in the regular than the Post season.[/QUOTE]

You're going to see some contact with hands from time to time, they are allowed to get away with this mostly in the post, but u'r not going to see them guide players with it anymore, you're not going to see it done hard enough, where it forces a dribbler to turn his back.....and you also have bs like this being called, which is what today people call a physical series :roll:

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Look at the handcheck called @ 1:45