Wade or Iverson?

[QUOTE=markymark]People here keep on harping about stats, but fail to see the intangibles AI brought. He instilled fear in all the teams he was facing, despite having a crappy supporting cast most of the time.

Yes, Wade is an HOF lock, but those who are saying "he is waaaaayyy better than AI" are retarded. It's a very close call, and you can make arguments for both players.

Can't we just agree that they are both great?[/QUOTE]

Ok. So the argument for Iverson is his "intangibles" ("Practice?"). Wade meanwhile trumps him in almost every statistical category (and EVERY advanced statistical category) known to man. Yeah, that evens out.

I can't believe I'm going to use this smilie, which I absolutely despise, but I don't know what more can be said than...:facepalm

Two of my favorite players. I always felt Wade was a bigger version of Iverson so to speak. If I had to rank top SGs of all time? Iverson would be ahead of Wade for now...for now.

[QUOTE=jrong]Ok. So the argument for Iverson is his "intangibles" ("Practice?"). [B]Wade meanwhile trumps him in almost every statistical category[/B] (and EVERY advanced statistical category) known to man. Yeah, that evens out.

I can't believe I'm going to use this smilie, which I absolutely despise, but I don't know what more can be said than...:facepalm[/QUOTE]

points ai
assists ai
steals ai
rebounds wade
blocks wade

Lmao what does Vince have to do with this?

Iverson is really one of the hardest players to rank. It seems like you either think Iverson is an overrated chucker or one of the best scorers to ever play. Everyone's opinion is so different about him that it's just impossible to rank him.

They're are so many kids on this board that think AI was just a chucker though. Most people that say Iverson was no where one Wade's level never saw him play at his peak. I'm not saying he's better but to say he wasn't on Wade's level is just looking at stats and FG% but never got to see him take over games.

Think about Derrick Rose, low FG% but LEADS his team to victory. People now think that Rose is definitely on Wade's level or maybe even better. FG% doesn't tell the whole story about how good a player is.

[QUOTE=colorz]Iverson is really one of the hardest players to rank. It seems like you either think Iverson is an overrated chucker or one of the best scorers to ever play. Everyone's opinion is so different about him that it's just impossible to rank him.

They're are so many kids on this board that think AI was just a chucker though. Most people that say Iverson was no where one Wade's level never saw him play at his peak. I'm not saying he's better but to say he wasn't on Wade's level is just looking at stats and FG% but never got to see him take over games.

Think about Derrick Rose, low FG% but LEADS his team to victory. People now think that Rose is definitely on Wade's level or maybe even better. FG% doesn't tell the whole story about how good a player is.[/QUOTE]

Derrick Rose shot nearly 45%... thats low?

Iverson shot 42% in his MVP season and never got to the ECFs ever in his career after that.

If Iverson is better than Wade then he's better than LeBron james and Kobe. :rolleyes:

AI accomplished absolutely nothing unless he had a stacked defensive team and he was the only scoring option. He needed the ball in his hands at all times.

Wade on the other hand, has had success in multiple situations. He won a title with 34 year old Shaq on the team, and a subpar performance from him in the Finals. He won 47 games last year with a team that had only 2 other players averaging double digit points and no one playing 30 MPG. Wade also led Miami to a 43-39 record and had the 2nd most 1st places votes for MVP on a team where the only scoring options that stayed on the team the entire year were rookie Beasley, Haslem, and rookie Chalmers. Wade is also doing well with LeBron James alongside of him.

Iverson is a system player. Wade will dominate no matter who is on the team and no matter how good they are.

[QUOTE=jrong]Ok. So the argument for Iverson is his "intangibles" ("Practice?"). Wade meanwhile trumps him in almost every statistical category (and EVERY advanced statistical category) known to man. Yeah, that evens out.

I can't believe I'm going to use this smilie, which I absolutely despise, but I don't know what more can be said than...:facepalm[/QUOTE]

put prime AI in place of Wade now, and the Heat would be in the exact same situation. It's CLOSE.

[QUOTE=Bigsmoke]Derrick Rose shot nearly 45%... thats low?

Iverson shot 42% in his MVP season and never got to the ECFs ever in his career after that.

If Iverson is better than Wade then he's better than LeBron james and Kobe. :rolleyes:[/QUOTE]


He's shooting 41% in the playoffs

Iverson = better scorer, and that's ALL he had.

Wade = better BASKETBALL PLAYER.

[QUOTE=colorz]He's shooting 41% in the playoffs[/QUOTE]

Haha! 50% against Jamaal Crawford.

On the other hand, AI was putting up 30, 40 on the likes of:

VC, Antonio Davis, Dale Davis, Jerome Williams, Alvin Williams, Childs, Oakley

Ray Allen, Big Dog, Casell, Ervin Johnson, Brandon

Oh, and he also dropped 48 on Kobe, Shaq, Fox, Fish, Horry.

[QUOTE=markymark]put prime AI in place of Wade now, and the Heat would be in the exact same situation. It's CLOSE.[/QUOTE]

thats weaker defense at the 2 guard, less rebounding, more turnovers, less efficient scorer next to Lebron, losing their best shot blocker, ect.

[QUOTE=colorz]He's shooting 41% in the playoffs[/QUOTE]

:oldlol:

:applause:

[I]"But but but we're in the ECF tho."[/I]

wade, hes more all around.

[QUOTE=GOBB]Two of my favorite players. I always felt Wade was a bigger version of Iverson so to speak. If I had to rank top SGs of all time? Iverson would be ahead of Wade for now...for now.[/QUOTE]
What he said ..