List of players over 7 foot, 230 pounds in Wilt's time

[QUOTE=bwink23]It should also be noted those guys were taller than their listed heights, since they measured without shoes on back in the day....[/QUOTE]

This is correct.

It is widely known that players back then were measured without shoes.

Alonzo Mourning (who is listed at 6'10") is actually shorter than Bill Russell (who was listed at 6'9" but would probably be listed at 6'10 or 6'11" using today's measurements).

I've seen numerous photos and videos of the two together. Zo received a lot of coaching from Russell earlier in his career and has a lot of respect for the Celtics' legend.

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[QUOTE=millwad]All those guys were scrubs minus Bellamy and Russell.[/QUOTE]

Clyde Lovellette was no scrub.

He was named All-NBA 2nd Team, averaged 23ppg and 14rpg at the peak of his career and was a 4-time All-Star.

He also won 3 NBA championships.

[QUOTE=WillC]Clyde Lovellette was no scrub.

He was named All-NBA 2nd Team, averaged 23ppg and 14rpg at the peak of his career and was a 4-time All-Star.

He also won 3 NBA championships.[/QUOTE]

I missed Clyde's name on the list which you can see from the arguments above..

[QUOTE=millwad]I missed Clyde's name on the list which you can see from the arguments above..[/QUOTE]

I just read it.

I doubt you would have recognised his name anyway. By the looks of things you have a severe lack of NBA knowledge.

[QUOTE=WillC]I just read it.

I doubt you would have recognised his name anyway. By the looks of things you have a severe lack of NBA knowledge.[/QUOTE]

I am well aware of Clyde and I have no idea what so ever who you and I couldn't care less but I guess that you're one of those old bastards who "saw" the likes of Wilt "play".

I haven't posted anything controversial what so ever in this thread.

So this isn't controversial...?

[QUOTE=millwad]What a retard, first of Clyde Lovellette wasn't on the list I commented on. And secondly, the guy doesn't deserve to be a HOF.. He was never in his career considered to be a top 10 player, on the MVP ranking he made the 12th spot twice, that's not HOF-quality...:facepalm [/QUOTE]

1) Your flippant use of the term 'retard' (if you one day have a child, I wonder if you will call it a 'retard' if it is born with Down's Syndrome or another disability?).

2) Your misunderstanding of the basketball HOF. It isn't based purely on a player's NBA career. Lovellette was named Most Outstanding Player of the 1952 Final Four.

3) You calling someone out when it was you who blatantly missed Lovellette's name on the list.

I could go on, but I think this proves your lack of a) knowledge and b) maturity.

[QUOTE=Rnbizzle]Guys like Wilt and Russell were great in their days and therefore deserve their spots on the all-time lists.. But retarded elderly posters here who believe Wilt actually fought a mountain lion.. had sex with 20.000 woman or [B]could dunk from the freethrow line with only taking 3 steps..[/B] Please kill yourselves.

The truth is Wilt would probable be nothing more then say a[B] Roy Hibbert (or Deandre Jordan if you're gonna argue athleticism) but why does that matter, they were still dominant as hell in their day[/B].[/QUOTE]

Why would you think Tex Winters would lie about it? He had great credibility and was on the committee to institute such rules and was just explaining himself. Wilt could triple jump 50 feet which would be beyond the half court line. And could broad jump 22 feet about the top of the key. These are far from world records but are very impressive for that time. Wilt had incredibly long legs and was freakisly strong with his whole body. No offense Bizzle, you just aren't educated in what you are talking about. And you sound arrogant in your ignorance.

Seriously, you think Deandre Jordan has Wilt's strength? You think Roy Hibbert could make any track and field team. I doubt he can broad jump 12 feet. Deandre Jordan gets tired after 30minutes. What athelete that you know of could run 50mile marathons? You think Arnold Schwanegger is going to call Deandre one of the strongest people he knew? You think somebody weighin 265 lbs giving their HOF speech is going to say his most amusing moment was when Deandre Jordan picked him up moved him like a coffee cup?

You act like the human species is different now. Grow up, pick up a book and start reading. They aren't. Today they don't eat organic foods and it messes with their endurance. Jack Johnson fought 42 round fights in the 1900's when they were practically fighting bare knuckled. No fighter now handles 12 rounds very well.

Guys don't hustle for rebounds and are scared to bang today. What 7 footer fights down low every night? Deandre Jordan? Even the fans never respected KG for playing hard, every game. Yall act like everybody is playing hard. When the 7 footers now are complete jokes. Almost all of them are unfocused and don't take pride in having a workman's approach to the game. DH does this but takes games off. But he stands out for being part time old school. Rodman could come in the game today and lead the league in rebounds and offensive rebounds because he plays with heart and isn't scared to bang. Deandre is four times the athlete Love is but he will never average what Love averages. Cause Love is old school, ask anybody.

Kareem = GOAT
Everybody including other centers come next.

[QUOTE=WillC]So this isn't controversial...?



1) Your flippant use of the term 'retard' (if you one day have a child, I wonder if you will call it a 'retard' if it is born with Down's Syndrome or another disability?).

2) Your misunderstanding of the basketball HOF. It isn't based purely on a player's NBA career. Lovellette was named Most Outstanding Player of the 1952 Final Four.

3) You calling someone out when it was you who blatantly missed Lovellette's name on the list.

I could go on, but I think this proves your lack of a) knowledge and b) maturity.[/QUOTE]

I don't feel like Lovellette deserves to be a HOF, I just don't. HOF:ers should be for the best of the best, not a guy who was ranked top 12 in the league twice in his league.

Lovellette didn't win in his prime and he didn't lead any of his teams to wins in the finals. He got them before and after his prime because he was lucky to play on great teams.

If Lovellette type of players would be brought in to the HOF a la the 80's, 90's and 00's we'd have ALOT more players in the HOF and that's a fact.

You can act like you're some kind of pro, which you're obviously not and it's safe to say that you didn't see him play so lets stop acting like you're some Bruce Almighty when in fact you google your statements.

[QUOTE=Pointguard]Why would you think Tex Winters would lie about it? He had great credibility and was on the committee to institute such. Wilt could triple jump 50 feet which would be beyond the half court line. And could broad jump 22 feet about the top of the key. These are far from world records but are very impressive for that time. Wilt had incredibly long legs and was freakisly strong with his whole body. No offense Bizzle, you just aren't educated in what you are talking about. And you sound arrogant in your ignorance.

Seriously, you think Deandre Jordan has Wilt's strength? You think Roy Hibbert could make any track and field team. I doubt he can broad jump 12 feet. Deandre Jordan gets tired after 30minutes. What athelete that you know of could run 50mile marathons? You think Arnold Schwanegger is going to call Deandre one of the strongest people he knew? You think somebody weighin 265 lbs giving their HOF speech is going to say his most amusing moment was when Deandre Jordan picked him up moved him like a coffee cup?

You act like the human species is different now. Grow up, pick up a book and start reading. They aren't. Today they don't eat organic foods and it messes with their endurance. Jack Johnson fought 42 round fights in the 1900's when they were practically fighting bare knuckled. No fighter now handles 12 rounds very well.

Guys don't hustle for rebounds and are scared to bang today. What 7 footer fights down low every night? Deandre Jordan? Even the fans never respected KG for playing hard, every game. Yall act like everybody is playing hard. When the 7 footers now are complete jokes. Almost all of them are unfocused and don't take pride in having a workman's approach to the game. DH does this but takes games off. But he stands out for being part time old school. Rodman could come in the game today and lead the league in rebounds and offensive rebounds because he plays with heart and isn't scared to bang. Deandre is four times the athlete Love is but he will never average what Love averages. Cause Love is old school, ask anybody.[/QUOTE]

I am going to copy and paste this post every time someone spouts nonsense about how Wilt Chamberlain wouldn't be a star in today's NBA.

Your post hits the nail on the head.

[QUOTE=RRR3]"B-b-b-b-b-but Jordan was a guard!"
LOL @ OP trying to discredit someone for being tall. WTF[/QUOTE]
I'm not discrediting that Wilt for being tall
I'm just laying some facts that he played against small centers, much smaller

Imagine Andrew Bynum in that era, only 2-3 centers are 7' and none of them are close to 250 pounds :lol

[QUOTE=Deuce Bigalow]I'm not discrediting that Wilt for being tall
I'm just laying some facts that he played against small centers, much smaller

Imagine Andrew Bynum in that era, only 2-3 centers and none of them are close to 250 pounds :lol[/QUOTE]

Similarly, imagine Wilt Chamberlain playing in the NBA today, with the benefit of modern training methods, nutrition, coaching, etc.

He'd eat players like Andrew Bynum for breakfast.

It works both ways.

[QUOTE=WillC]Similarly, imagine Wilt Chamberlain playing in the NBA today, with the benefit of modern training methods, nutrition, coaching, etc.

[B]He'd eat players like Andrew Bynum for breakfast.
[/B]
It works both ways.[/QUOTE]
:oldlol: no he wouldn't, he'll be lucky to be as good as Bynum

[QUOTE=Deuce Bigalow]:oldlol: no he wouldn't, he'll be lucky to be as good as Bynum[/QUOTE]

If you say so, troll.

Wilt was quicker, stronger, a better leaper. If he played today, it's fair to say he'd have an even bigger advantage in those areas due to today's training methods, nutrition, etc.

In terms of his skill set, Wilt has Bynum beat in every area except free throw shooting:

- Wilt was an infinitely better ball-handler and passer, which he honed in his time with the Globetrotters.

- Wilt had a legendary finger roll.

- Wilt had a very effective turn-around jump shot.

- Wilt was one of the best rebounders ever (if not [I]the [/I]best).

- Wilt was a ferocious shot-blocker.

Keep living in your dream world where everything gets better as the years go by. I wonder what you'll think of Jordan in 50 years' time? I assume every shooting guard in the league in 2062 will be better players than Jordan was :rolleyes:

[QUOTE=Pointguard]Why would you think Tex Winters would lie about it? He had great credibility and was on the committee to institute such rules and was just explaining himself. Wilt could triple jump 50 feet which would be beyond the half court line. And could broad jump 22 feet about the top of the key. These are far from world records but are very impressive for that time. Wilt had incredibly long legs and was freakisly strong with his whole body. No offense Bizzle, you just aren't educated in what you are talking about. And you sound arrogant in your ignorance.

Seriously, you think Deandre Jordan has Wilt's strength? You think Roy Hibbert could make any track and field team. I doubt he can broad jump 12 feet. Deandre Jordan gets tired after 30minutes. What athelete that you know of could run 50mile marathons? You think Arnold Schwanegger is going to call Deandre one of the strongest people he knew? You think somebody weighin 265 lbs giving their HOF speech is going to say his most amusing moment was when Deandre Jordan picked him up moved him like a coffee cup?

You act like the human species is different now. Grow up, pick up a book and start reading. They aren't. Today they don't eat organic foods and it messes with their endurance. Jack Johnson fought 42 round fights in the 1900's when they were practically fighting bare knuckled. No fighter now handles 12 rounds very well.

Guys don't hustle for rebounds and are scared to bang today. What 7 footer fights down low every night? Deandre Jordan? Even the fans never respected KG for playing hard, every game. Yall act like everybody is playing hard. When the 7 footers now are complete jokes. Almost all of them are unfocused and don't take pride in having a workman's approach to the game. DH does this but takes games off. But he stands out for being part time old school. Rodman could come in the game today and lead the league in rebounds and offensive rebounds because he plays with heart and isn't scared to bang. Deandre is four times the athlete Love is but he will never average what Love averages. Cause Love is old school, ask anybody.[/QUOTE]
Actually, the thing is, I've heard the same stories you have, and I've read (maybe not quite as much, but) enough on the subject to know what I'm talking about at least a bit.

I just take these stories with a grain of salt. The thing I find fascinating.. You guys will believe half of the stories, and put away the rest like I do. I mean, do you really believe he fought a mountain lion and won? Do you really believe he had sex with 20.000 women? You probably don't. Now I know these aren't really related to his athletic abilities but you get my point.

There's so many more stories of what 'the great Wilt Chamberlain' could do, that I doubt ones that might actually be true.

All in all I think 95% of the stories are over-exaggerated.