I guess he'll be the focal point of the offense in miami. What a crybaby.
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I guess he'll be the focal point of the offense in miami. What a crybaby.
Why now do we hear all this Ray had issues with Rondo talk? Ray is older and had bone spurs let's leave it at that.
[QUOTE=Kurosawa0]I've seen Celtics fans saying this about every free agent shooting guard they've been linked to.
I know Ray's older, but he still scares me at the end of games as much as anyone. I'll take what he's proven over what Lee and Young promise.[/QUOTE]
We have Jason Terry
So is more like Losing Allen = Gaining Terry + Lee. Win.
And LOL at those Heat fans defending Allen like he's a Saint. Bet you wound't give a shit if he would've went to the clippers instead dumb homers
[QUOTE=PickernRoller]Allen never did a job on Bryant....if anything it was Bryant playing his normal average games against an average defender trying his best. In a sense he was the best the Celtics had at times when guys like Allen (the other one) was resting.[/QUOTE]
this is not true... I remember Ray defending Bryant and doing good job with that as ever. Maybe it was '10 finals? But you guys surely haven't seen what I have seen... I wonder how many points have Bryant put on these new-look Celtics, as opposed to zillions by Wade or James. Yeah, maybe Wade is terrible match up for Ray, but believe me Ray did help Boston in those battles with LA.
Terry & Lee > Allen
Time to move on
doc actually dissapointed me here...didnt think he would be this bitter about ray leaving and feeling like he had to low blow him...he doesn't know why ray left and I'm sure ray didnt tell him...ppl need to stop overreacting doc rivers only said what HE FELT why ray left not that what he stated was the reasons why ray left
It's really easy to respect Rivers. Seems like he never really bullshits in interviews and just knows what to do to get wins. I can't really say he made the wrong decision either. Ray just didn't look very good last year, even when he was healthy. He looked like he had lost an awful lot to me.
[QUOTE=BlackVVaves]So Doc Rivers deflecting the "blame" from Rondo, and instead owning that portion of the blame by stating it was he that wanted and told Rondo to have more freedom with the basketball, is being a pouting crybaby?
Anyway, so, how exactly does Ray think he'll be "more involved in the offense" in Miami? Instead of having to deal with your point guard, who is, by design, [I]suppose[/I] to have the ball in his hands dictating the offense, he'll now have to deal with Bron, then Wade, then Chalmers as the primary, secondary, ect ball-handlers.
Where exactly is the improvement in utilization?[/QUOTE]
+1. He's gonna go from a slightly deminished role on the Celtics to a severely demenished role on the already guard heavy Heat? Makes no sense
[QUOTE=dbugz]Dude, I'm quoting the user who said that the real reason why Ray leave is because DA agreed to trade him. Read the conversation first before quoting someone's post :lol
Ray complaining about Rondo handling the ball too much?
Sorry but I need to search this on youtube and post it here,
[url]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=TKEOrHeN1IY[/url]
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(Someone pls gif this and e-mail it to Ray)[/COLOR][/B]
If someone's going to pass the ball to me like that, there's no way I'm going to complain about it. :no: :no:[/QUOTE]
[url]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_juSfjsL06k&feature=related[/url]
:confusedshrug: :confusedshrug: Ray had problems with this???:confusedshrug: :confusedshrug:
Doc doesn't talk just to talk, he's not a bitter guy, far from it. He's one of the few coaches that speaks his mind.
[QUOTE=PP34Deuce]Doc doesn't talk just to talk, he's not a bitter guy, far from it. He's one of the few coaches that speaks his mind.[/QUOTE]
he doe but did he really have to say he was pissed at allen for leaving and then not agree with his "reasons" when he himself doesnt know allens actual reasons for leaving... Ray Allen took the high road thanked the celtics and all...doc should have done the same
move on
also boston didnt fight hard to get allen back...if my memory serves correctly they offered terry a contract before allen...if they wanted allen back then why bother going for terry first if they claimed allen was a priority...allen was severely mistreated in boston and easily made the most sacrifices of the big 3...from gettin traded midseason to a last second change up and he lost his starting spot...some may say that it was deserved but i applaud allen for not disrupting the team during the playoffs and season when he was benched when most other aging stars would have pouted their asses off
Allen moved on and so should boston... the city of boston didnt care to bring allen back they just cared he went to miami...if he was on the clippers this would be a non issue
[QUOTE=Boston C's]also boston didnt fight hard to get allen back...if my memory serves correctly they offered terry a contract before allen...if they wanted allen back then why bother going for terry first if they claimed allen was a priority...allen was severely mistreated in boston and easily made the most sacrifices of the big 3...from gettin traded midseason to a last second change up and he lost his starting spot...some may say that it was deserved but i applaud allen for not disrupting the team during the playoffs and season when he was benched when most other aging stars would have pouted their asses off
Allen moved on and so should boston... the city of boston didnt care to bring allen back they just cared he went to miami...if he was on the clippers this would be a non issue[/QUOTE]
terry > allen
[QUOTE=KDTrey5]terry > allen[/QUOTE]
thats completely understood and not the point of my post...the point is that boston fans are bitching that allen showed no loyalty and wat not when in reality we didnt show loyalty to him and practically smacked him in the face with how we treated him and our offseason moves so why should boston be so bitchy about him leaving