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[QUOTE=pauk]....................Barkley.......Malone.......Garnett......Robinson.......
MVP..................1...............2...............1.................1............
FMVP................0...............0................0................0.............
CHAMP..............0...............0...............1.................1.............
ROTY...............No.............No..............No..............Yes...........
DPOY................0...............0...............1.................1.............
1st All-NBA........5..............11..............4.................4.............
1st All-Def.........0...............3...............9.................4.............
All-Star............11.............14..............14...............10............
All-Star MVP......1...............2...............1.................0.............
POTM...............4...............7................9................4.............
PPG................22.1..........25.0...........19.3............21.1..........
RPG................11.7..........10.1...........10.6............10.6.........
APG.................3.9............3.5..............4.0.............2.5..........
BPG.................0.8............0.8..............1.5.............3.0..........
SPG.................1.5............1.4..............1.3.............1.4..........
PER Rating......24.6..........23.9............23.3............26.2.........
Thats about it... this is extremly close, but i am gona go with KARL MALONE...[/QUOTE]
Robinson has 2 rings, not 1.
Also, again, All Star MVP and Player of the Month really doesn't need to be included here, as we've debated already in the past. I'd also take out PER rating.
The numbers and other achievements speak for themselves.
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I would also take out Robinson (for now) in your comparison chart Pauk, and instead include Pettit and Baylor.
Man. I still can't believe people can sit here and vote Zeke over the likes of Malone, KG, and Pettit with a straight face :oldlol:
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The next couple of slots are going to be very PF heavy. With that said I'll go with Barkely
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[QUOTE=fpliii]not sure...I did some research, and many noted that he scored 32 points with a broken leg in the 51 playoffs, which corresponds to this game:
[url]http://www.basketball-reference.com/boxscores/195104030ROC.html[/url]
I went into the archives and could find no record of him breaking his leg, though he did hurt his ankle in this game:
[url]http://www.basketball-reference.com/boxscores/195103170TRI.html[/url]
here are some quotes:
so take that for what it's worth; either way, I don't think Abe made this one up
I guess there are three possibilities:
(1) there were two separate injuries, but the leg injury wasn't reported until some time later
(2) there was only an ankle injury, and eventually through rumors, storytelling, etc. it became a broken leg
(3) he shattered everything in his leg in one devastating injury, ankle and otherwise
no clue what to think, but I'd imagine we need a local paper from Minneapolis to tell us more (the game was actually played in Illinois, but the Chicago Tribune didn't mention the injury in the game report[/QUOTE]
Thanks for the info. :cheers:
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[QUOTE=fsvr54]Accomplishments: Isaiah
Skill: It's debateable. What did Barkley do better than Isaiah other than rebound [B](since he was a PF)?[/B][/QUOTE]
So what?
It isn't as if his impact on the game from crashing boards is any less "since he was a PF". It just is what it is. A player on the court, crashing the hell out of boards and impacting the game because of it.
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Isiah Thomas has been Top 5 in MVP Voting [B]1[/B] time. 5th in 1983-84 Season.
Take that for what it's worth :confusedshrug:
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[QUOTE=Deuce Bigalow]Isiah Thomas has been Top 5 in MVP Voting [B]1[/B] time. 5th in 1983-84 Season.
Take that for what it's worth :confusedshrug:[/QUOTE]
When Barkley brought down 20 rebounds, it had less impact than it otherwise would since he was a PF. The game takes that into consideration and somehow makes it count for less.
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[QUOTE=fpliii]what's 'CHAMP'? if that's rings, the Admiral should have two
don't include PER and POTM[/QUOTE]
Or ASG MVP. If people are using that to give someone the nod over another player, then they need to seriously reconsider the way they rank players.
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[b]elgin Baylor[/b]
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If my count is correct so far we have
Garnett - 11
Malone - 9
Isiah - 6
Barkley - 6 (+1 from a poster under 100)
Baylor - 3
Mikan - 2
Dirk - 2
Havlicek,Robinson,Pippen & Pettit - 1
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[B]Karl Malone[/B]
[IMG]http://assets.sbnation.com/assets/329138/a_malone_i_medium.jpg[/IMG]
Lol @ people voting for Barkley over Malone or even Dirk. Just becuase everyone sucks him off and he has a cushy job where he is relevant people overrate him. I guarantee if Karl Malone was the smartass commentator with a funny personality and Barkley hunted and lived in the woods people would be picking Malone. What a joke.
Edit: Wow KG getting overrated hard, this is a guy who proved in his career he was incapable of being built around as the first option. When I'm talking top 20 players all-time I want guys that can lead me to a title. At least Malone had his teams consistently elite. KG couldn't even make the playoffs IN HIS PRIME.
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[QUOTE=MiamiThrice][B]Karl Malone[/B]
[IMG]http://assets.sbnation.com/assets/329138/a_malone_i_medium.jpg[/IMG]
Lol @ people voting for Barkley over Malone or even Dirk. Just becuase everyone sucks him off and he has a cushy job where he is relevant people overrate him. I guarantee if Karl Malone was the smartass commentator with a funny personality and Barkley hunted and lived in the woods people would be picking Malone. What a joke.
Edit: Wow KG getting overrated hard, this is a guy who proved in his career he was incapable of being built around as the first option. [B]When I'm talking top 20 players all-time I want guys that can lead me to a title. At least Malone had his teams consistently elite[/B]. KG couldn't even make the playoffs IN HIS PRIME.[/QUOTE]
Based on your own theory you shouldn't be voting Malone until at least 21 now should you. :coleman: