ISH: Where MJ and Shaq allegedly had a higher peak than Wilt Chamberlain

Damn guys, your quick on this. Thanks. :cheers:

I had watched Conan the Destroyer not too long ago, actually, and thought Wilt was in great shape at the time. Hard to imagine he was in his 50's.

Trench Richardson can bench press [B]475[/B]: [IMG]http://blacksportsonline.com/home/wp-content/uploads/2012/03/trent_richardson.jpg[/IMG][IMG]http://www.theclevelandfan.com/images/stories/Browns/trent-richardson-beast.jpg[/IMG]

Michael Pittman: 485 lbs: [IMG]http://i534.photobucket.com/albums/ee350/Jarg007/michaelpittman.jpg[/IMG]

Vernon Davis: bench-pressed 465 pounds, power-cleaned 365 pounds -[IMG]http://i534.photobucket.com/albums/ee350/Jarg007/vernondavis.jpg[/IMG]



And this guy can do 500?....[IMG]http://g.cdn.mersap.com/basquetbol/files/2010/07/wilt2.jpg[/IMG]

[url]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=1pwS6dxlR6g[/url]

Oh look, here's the weak un-athletic 6 foot white center Wilt faced his MVP / Ring season in the NBA Finals :oldlol:

[QUOTE=PHILA][url]http://articles.philly.com/2012-01-10/sports/30612013_1_elevator-sixers-new-appreciation[/url]

[I]January 10, 2012

I will be 55 in a few months, the age he was when I interviewed him. This gives me a whole new appreciation for that interview. It is natural at this age to reflect on one's decisions in life, to contemplate making the most of the good years that remain.

Wilt seemed in far better shape then than I am now, absolutely no gut, sculpted in his tight T-shirt. The world never fully appreciated what an athlete he was. During the filming of Conan the Destroyer, with Arnold Schwarzenegger, [B][SIZE="4"]Wilt said he put five 50-pound weights on his rib cage, elevated his feet on an incline board, and did 30 sit-ups.

"Arnold couldn't believe it," Wilt said. "He wouldn't even try it."
[/SIZE][/B]
When I met him that day in 1991, the Sixers had just retired his number, and he told me that was "the most moving day of my life." So many fans thanking him. "I should have been the one saying 'Thank you,' " he said.

Wilt died in 1999.

He would have loved the video homage to him the Sixers showed Monday night and will again many times this season to reconnect the team with its legacy.

The man was undeniably Philadelphia's greatest homegrown athlete. He was large, and he was larger than life. And thanks, Wilt, for sharing one day with me.[/I][/QUOTE]
You think Wilt was as strong as Arnold?

[QUOTE=Deuce Bigalow]Trench Richardson can bench press [B]475[/B]: [IMG]http://blacksportsonline.com/home/wp-content/uploads/2012/03/trent_richardson.jpg[/IMG][IMG]http://www.theclevelandfan.com/images/stories/Browns/trent-richardson-beast.jpg[/IMG]

Michael Pittman: 485 lbs: [IMG]http://i534.photobucket.com/albums/ee350/Jarg007/michaelpittman.jpg[/IMG]

[B]Vernon Davis:[/B] bench-pressed 465 pounds, power-cleaned 365 pounds -[IMG]http://i534.photobucket.com/albums/ee350/Jarg007/vernondavis.jpg[/IMG]



And this guy can do 500?....[IMG]http://g.cdn.mersap.com/basquetbol/files/2010/07/wilt2.jpg[/IMG][/QUOTE]
And out of curiosity I just looked up he only weighs 250lbs? :lol

300+ Wilt >>>>>>>>>>>>

Don't care how jacked a guy looks, if Wilt is a much bigger guy than all of those guys he is very plausibly able to be stronger than them by simple scaling of his muscle mass alone let alone unforseen physical gifts he may have such as high-twitch muscle fiber. He is proportioned like a solid strong athlete except he is upscaled to gargantuan proportions. The rules of physics that apply to these smaller guys don't apply to Wilt, he's naturally got a bigger frame than they do. Can't understand how your so dense that you don't understand this. U seriously must be trolling :oldlol:

[QUOTE=CavaliersFTW]And out of curiosity I just looked up he only weighs 250lbs? :lol

300+ Wilt >>>>>>>>>>>>

Don't care how jacked a guy looks, if Wilt is a much bigger guy than all of those guys he is very plausibly able to be stronger than them by simple scaling of his muscle mass alone let alone unforseen physical gifts he may have such as high-twitch muscle fiber. He is proportioned like a solid strong athlete except he is upscaled to gargantuan proportions. The rules of physics that apply to these small but jacked guys don't apply to Wilt, he's naturally got a bigger frame than they do. Can't understand how your so dense that you don't understand this. U seriously must be trolling :oldlol:[/QUOTE]

Coming from someone who has obviously never benched shit in his life.... zero chance Wilt benched 500 pounds.

[QUOTE=CavaliersFTW]And out of curiosity I just looked up he only weighs 250lbs? :lol

300+ Wilt >>>>>>>>>>>>

Don't care how jacked a guy looks, Wilt is a much bigger guy than all of those guys. He is proportioned like a solid strong athlete except he is upscaled to gargantuan proportions. The rules of physics that apply to these small but jacked guys don't apply to Wilt, he's naturally got a bigger frame than they do. Can't understand how your so dense that you don't understand this. U seriously must be trolling :oldlol:[/QUOTE]
:facepalm

The longer and taller you are, the more range of motion.

You seriously are an idiot, you and your old delusional dementia Wilt buddies.
400 pound shoulder press? :facepalm 500 pouund bench press:facepalm
:facepalm :facepalm :facepalm
40-50" vert :facepalm :facepalm

[QUOTE=LosBulls]You do realize High Jumping records from back then don't come close to what they are now?[/QUOTE]

They used a completely different technique.

[QUOTE=Deuce Bigalow]You think Wilt could just do whatever he wanted and get any post position he wants against this guy?

[IMG]http://www.gq.com/images/slideshows/mens/standalone/gq/feature/1106/athletes/00016f.jpg[/IMG][IMG]http://detroitsportsnation.com/pistons24seconds/files/2012/01/Ben-Wallace11.jpg[/IMG][IMG]http://www.oddjack.com/wp-content/ben_wallace2.jpg[/IMG][/QUOTE]

Shaq had his way. 20+ points in 20/23 regular season head-to-head match ups.

I'm sure Wilt would do just fine.

[QUOTE=Deuce Bigalow]:facepalm

The longer and taller you are, the more range of motion.

You seriously are an idiot, you and your old delusional dementia Wilt buddies.
400 pound shoulder press? :facepalm 500 pouund bench press:facepalm
:facepalm :facepalm :facepalm
40-50" vert :facepalm :facepalm[/QUOTE]
:roll: mad as hell

all his apparent physical disadvantages he should have had due to leverage never stopped him from doing anything - such as:

[url]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=lTSOHMtPvz8&t=1m3s[/url]
(note the full rack on his lat-pulldowns)

Wilt didn't move like he was long... he moved like a genuine athlete. That's what people like you can't accept, - that he wasn't an ordinary big man - he was an [I]incredible[/I] [I]athlete[/I]. The [I]exception[/I] to all of the rules. Not an example of your average joe bound by them. What you think big tall people should be like, isn't what he was like that's why people were so amazed with him. That's why he does sh*t in his highlights that even Shaq didn't do. That's why his peak >>>>>>>>> any other players.

:roll: :roll: :roll: :roll: :roll:

Wilt fanboys:lol Your mountain lion wrestling, 20000 women fu*king hero would be a scrub in todays league... JaVale McGee at best:lol

Better than MJ or Shaq??? :roll: You have got to be fu*king joking!!!!

[QUOTE=Deuce Bigalow]:facepalm

The longer and taller you are, the more range of motion.

You seriously are an idiot, you and your old delusional dementia Wilt buddies.
400 pound shoulder press? :facepalm 500 pouund bench press:facepalm
:facepalm :facepalm :facepalm
40-50" vert :facepalm :facepalm[/QUOTE]


THIS....


I love when people who have never lifted weights bullshit about figures like that...
If you're taller/long armed, you have a much longer range of motion. Its WAY easier for shorter/stockier guys to lift heavier on presses...

500 pound bench? No chance. 400 pound shoulder press?:roll:

Whats with all the stupid old farts coming out this offseason and crapping on about Wilt everyday???:confusedshrug:

[QUOTE=coin24]THIS....


I love when people who have never lifted weights bullshit about figures like that...
If you're taller/long armed, you have a much longer range of motion. Its WAY easier for shorter/stockier guys to lift heavier on presses...

500 pound bench? No chance. 400 pound shoulder press?:roll:

Whats with all the stupid old farts coming out this offseason and crapping on about Wilt everyday???:confusedshrug:[/QUOTE]
Right, every person who ever witnessed Wilt do something or other is a liar because a 20 year old couch expert like yourself "knows" about lifting :oldlol:

315lbs in this pic, 327lbs when he was working out in the 80's - and yall think he can't lift as much weight as 250lb people cause you sit on your pc's and look at pics of how much more "buff" the 6-3 250lb dudes looked in their professional photo shoots and football gear

[IMG]https://lh5.googleusercontent.com/-8LHD3s7-w48/UEa4VWs1xuI/AAAAAAAADlo/vYimbewa8TE/s640/Sequence%252001.Still001.jpg[/IMG]

Side by side Wilt would dwarf those people. Not just in height - but in stature and ever other dimension due to his significantly greater body mass.

[QUOTE=CavaliersFTW]:roll: mad as hell

all his apparent physical disadvantages he should have had due to leverage never stopped him from doing anything - such as:

[url]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=lTSOHMtPvz8&t=1m3s[/url]
(note the full rack on his lat-pulldowns)

Wilt didn't move like he was long... he moved like a genuine athlete. That's what people like you can't accept, - that he wasn't an ordinary big man - he was an [I]incredible[/I] [I]athlete[/I]. The [I]exception[/I] to all of the rules. Not an example of your average joe bound by them. What you think big tall people should be like, isn't what he was like that's why people were so amazed with him. That's why he does sh*t in his highlights that even Shaq didn't do. That's why his peak >>>>>>>>> any other players.[/QUOTE]

Cavs.. what do you say to people who say that the # of possessions per game and pace of the 60s/70s was much faster than the 90s or 00s and also the fact that there were much less games to play during the season and especially in the playoffs, where you only had to win 2 playoff seasons for a championship :facepalm

Also just because wilt has the best peak as far as numbers makes him the superior peak player. It's a little fishy that Wilt's peak was 5 years apart (you said his peak was in 62 and 67) while Jordan had essentially a decade long peak and Shaq a little less (7-8 years).

Also both Jordan and Shaq had much more impressive playoff and finals peaks than wilt, showing up big when it really mattered. Both were also forced to play much more playoff games to win their champions (16 games to 8).

[QUOTE=CavaliersFTW]Right, every person who ever witnessed Wilt do something or other is a liar because a 20 year old couch expert like yourself "knows" about lifting :oldlol:

315lbs in this pic, 327lbs when he was working out in the 80's - and yall think he can't lift as much weight as 250lb people cause you sit on your pc's and look at pics of how much more "buff" the 6-3 250lb dudes looked in their professional photo shoots and football gear

[IMG]https://lh5.googleusercontent.com/-8LHD3s7-w48/UEa4VWs1xuI/AAAAAAAADlo/vYimbewa8TE/s640/Sequence%252001.Still001.jpg[/IMG]

Side by side Wilt would dwarf those people. Not just in height - but in stature and ever other dimension due to his significant amount of greater body mass.[/QUOTE]
No one is saying he isn't strong.

And no he would not dwarf people that are stronger than him. He would just be taller.