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Averaging 17 on 42% AI could have carried a team? I don't see it. He was obviously declining. He obviously wasn't satisfied with being a reserve so no contender wanted to bring him in. He still thought he was a superstar while his lower talent level was that of a roleplayer.
[QUOTE=kurple]imagine if this happened to Kobe. or most stars for that matter.
AI knew he could play. he proved it the year before. I dont blame him for feeling disrespected by being benched for a scrub[/QUOTE]
I remember ai after the trade saying something along the lines how he was willing to do anything for the pistons to take them to the next level. That he understood that the team fueled off their chemistry.
In hindsight, yeah stuckey has never lived up to the player people thought he would be. At the time though, pistons thought he could take over billups role. So it's not that crazy for them to put some faith in the kid. Plus iverson was always a good scorer. Playing 5 on 1 had been his forte since day one. Playmaker sure. Facilitator? Not really. So really, coming off the bench didn't mean anything. He would have still played 30plus minutes and have still scored 20 some odd points a night while fueling the bench production. Its not like they were asking him to be a role player. What if he won 6th man of the year? Would have been great to see that. I didn't see what his problem was except that he had too much pride. Sucked to see his career end the way it did but he has no one to blame but himself. He swallows his pride, he might even still be somewhere in the nba right now.
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Some things will never change.
AI is one of them.[/QUOTE]
Wow, SLAM still on his dlck after all this time.
[QUOTE=Rowe]AI was one of the most popular players in the league until he stopped playing. He suddenly didn't just drop off in 2004.
He had the same effect on fans that LeBron did after the 2011 NBA Finals, except that was his career from 1998. His first 2 seasons he was still viewed in a somewhat positive light, which is why the media took his side in the whole alleged fight with Jerry Stackhouse.
The problem is his "attitude" was over-exaggerated because of the "thug, I do what I wanna" persona that he had. Even when things were going down hill in Philly none of his teammates had a bad thing to say about him, his practice habits, etc. Neither did his coaches. And he really butted heads with Larry Brown and Mo Cheeks at times.
He was nowhere near as terrible of a teammate as Stephon Marbury, a guy who openly let it be known he didn't care whether they won or lost. Marbury just didn't want the media to blame him for it and he had a meltdown when they did. Also, AI doesn't even have anywhere near the negative "attitude" that Kobe still is bringing into the locker room and on the floor. Kobe's talent just backs it up at the moment.[/QUOTE]
i'm u huge AI fan i'm not saying anything negative like you think i am, AI was a good teammate and his "attitude" that i was talking about was him not being a PR kiss ass.
He was who he was, he had reached his ultimate goal of being an NBA superstar and wasn't going to change for nobody.
Just COPPED these last Friday when they dropped
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[QUOTE=JtotheIzzo]Wow, SLAM still on his dlck after all this time.[/QUOTE]
U mad bro??:lol
[QUOTE=TheMarkMadsen]i'm u huge AI fan i'm not saying anything negative like you think i am, AI was a good teammate and his "attitude" that i was talking about was him not being a PR kiss ass.
He was who he was, he had reached his ultimate goal of being an NBA superstar and wasn't going to change for nobody.
Just COPPED these last Friday when they dropped
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Georgetown:applause:
[QUOTE=Ne 1]Nope.
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not right man :facepalm I only cheered for Kobe shaq lakers in 2000 tho
[QUOTE=kurple]imagine if this happened to Kobe. or most stars for that matter.
AI knew he could play. he proved it the year before. I dont blame him for feeling disrespected by being benched for a scrub[/QUOTE]
Kobe would of retired:lol
[QUOTE=Solid Snake]What are you guys talking about? He REFUSED to adjust his role and play in the system his team wanted, you know, back when he WAS in the NBA?
Or did you forget that?
You guys act like he was somehow outcast for no reason, as if a player averaging 25ppg was ruthlessly quarantined out of some personal agenda.
Get a ****ing clue, as his skills changed from what they once were, he was asked to adjust. Why do you choose to forget that he outright REFUSED to come off the bench (Pistons). And then in his final stint in Philadelphia, he exited using a "saving face" strategy, in which he used some reason about his daughter being sick. Make no mistake, that's an excuse. If your daughter is sick, you NOT playing basketball is not helping her, whatever phantom illness she had, the DOCTORS would've been the ones to help her. Unless it's literally life or death (in which case you could argue he'd want to be there at her bedside for her final moments), there's no reason to stop playing basketball. But that's a moot point, since it turned out there was no verified illness or anything medically wrong with her anyway. Let's also not forget the flyers advertising some club he was gonna be at on that game night...
Iverson was great. But just like Kobe now, he's refused to adjust. Only difference is Kobe's skills are still so good that his selfish refusal to adjust to his teammates, STILL allows him to play at god-like levels. Because when your skill set converges on infinity, "diminishment" is a mortal term.[/QUOTE]
get your facts str8 dummy. Grizzlies forced him to change his role. pistons didn't want him period.
Still a Iverson fan, but how old is this nigha?
Missing AI so much. Most unique player ever in NBA history.
[QUOTE=TheMarkMadsen]i'm u huge AI fan i'm not saying anything negative like you think i am, AI was a good teammate and his "attitude" that i was talking about was him not being a PR kiss ass.
He was who he was, he had reached his ultimate goal of being an NBA superstar and wasn't going to change for nobody.
Just COPPED these last Friday when they dropped
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:roll: :roll: :roll: Damn bro those are wack as hell hahahahaha
You must really like AI to spend money on those dawg so I gotta give you one of those: :applause: but those janns are at 0% swag hahaha no swag oh man idk why but i'm dying laughing at how wack those are :roll: :dancin
[QUOTE=MetsPackers]:roll: :roll: :roll: Damn bro those are wack as hell hahahahaha
You must really like AI to spend money on those dawg so I gotta give you one of those: :applause: but those janns are at 0% swag hahaha no swag oh man idk why but i'm dying laughing at how wack those are :roll: :dancin[/QUOTE]
stupid troll. Those are one of the most popular basketball shoes ever.
I've always wanted to get the Answer IV black/white colorway.. next time I see them, I'm buying for sure. I also loved the V all-star colorway..
[QUOTE=MetsPackers]:roll: :roll: :roll: Damn bro those are wack as hell hahahahaha
You must really like AI to spend money on those dawg so I gotta give you one of those: :applause: but those janns are at 0% swag hahaha no swag oh man idk why but i'm dying laughing at how wack those are :roll: :dancin[/QUOTE]
You should be banned for this post.:facepalm
[QUOTE=willds09]Well deserved:applause: except Rick Ross and tyga get them fake ass niguhs outta here :facepalm[/QUOTE]
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