Melo is averaging 4rpg, 1apg, and shooting 40% in this series.

[QUOTE=Psycho]Maybe Melo's efficiency is destructive if you're comparing him to Lebron. But if you are comparing Melo's efficiency to the efficiency to the Knick's without Melo, then Melo's contested 3s are much more efficient over the long haul than Raymond Felton creating for the team.

Team's have to shoot the ball eventually, and if no one can create a good shot, having a guy like Melo is a huge asset.[/QUOTE]

I'd say its just destructive period. I'd rather just play team ball and go from there instead of forcing the offense through a player who is not good enough to have it forced through. If he were Lebron or Durant then you can force the offense through them, but not Melo.

[QUOTE=DMAVS41]But you are comparing him to other guys that have just as many weaknesses and don't demand the kind of attention Melo does.

JJ is less efficient and scores much less...8 point less per game in the playoffs I think. What does JJ do that puts him on the same tier as Melo? The answer is nothing.

Boozer is a nice complimentary piece, but he's not the caliber of player Melo is. And if you are going to use Melo's defense...Boozer is hardly a great defender himself. All Boozer does well on defense is rebound.

Griffin is easily the best player out of the 3 you guys have mentioned...and even then Melo is clearly the better player right now. You talk about efficiency? Griffin is shooting 44% in the playoffs this year. And his rebounding is just not good either. He can't stretch the floor and he's an average defender at best. He does nothing to make other teams scared and game plan around.

I totally agree that Melo is over-rated...been saying it for years. But don't over correct and start comparing him to players that he is clearly better than.[/QUOTE]

In terms of those players I do believe Melo is a tier above JJ, but I put him in the same tier as Boozer and Griffin. Even if he is better than those 2 I don't think he has shown anything to be a tier above them.

Blake has been shooting poorly this series, but he is going up against the DPOY and is getting beat up by z-bo. Blake shot 54% in the regular season and 55% last season. Also he shot 53% in the playoffs vs memphis last year.

I'd rather take Blake over Melo because Blake is a better complimentary player so yes I consider him a better player. Melo is in no man's land. He is not good enough to be the man and have the offense centered around him, but his style and bad habits make him a terrible complementary player as he will just jack many shots up and disrupt the offense and his scoring has low efficiency and the only other thing he can do aside from low efficiency scoring is rebound. Blake is a decent rebounder, passer, can give you a decent amount of points on pretty good efficiency.

How can you say Melo and Boozer are in the same tier with a straight face? Maybe if you're only basing it on the past 5 games..

[QUOTE=secund2nun]In terms of those players I do believe Melo is a tier above JJ, but I put him in the same tier as Boozer and Griffin. Even if he is better than those 2 I don't think he has shown anything to be a tier above them.

Blake has been shooting poorly this series, but he is going up against the DPOY and is getting beat up by z-bo. Blake shot 54% in the regular season and 55% last season. Also he shot 53% in the playoffs vs memphis last year.

I'd rather take Blake over Melo because Blake is a better complimentary player so yes I consider him a better player. Melo is in no man's land. He is not good enough to be the man and have the offense centered around him, but his style and bad habits make him a terrible complementary player as he will just jack many shots up and disrupt the offense and his scoring has low efficiency and the only other thing he can do aside from low efficiency scoring is rebound. Blake is a decent rebounder, passer, can give you a decent amount of points on pretty good efficiency.[/QUOTE]

Griffin is certainly the closest to Melo in that group, but I also think a lot of what you say about Melo might change with an elite playmaker like Paul on his team.

And if we are talking about the past. Melo had a very nice playoff run in 2009 on good efficiency overall.

Yes...I also have said that Melo can't be the best player on a title winning team. But I wouldn't take it as far as you do...D-Rose and Melo would make a pretty lethal combo similar to Westbrook and Durant...and I certainly think that pairing, along with the right supporting cast...could challenge for the title.

30 points on 27 shots at 38%. GOAT scorer.

You guys...overreacting to every bad game

The first 3 games Melo was averaging something like 35ppg @ 56 TS%. Now he has two bad shooting nights and he's awful? I'm betting he wont't stay cold for 3 straight games. Not him.

[QUOTE=aj1987]30 points on 27 shots at 38%. GOAT scorer.[/QUOTE]
Mvp stuff right here

146 shots on 6 assists for melo

Typical Melo, nothing to see here.

[QUOTE=Element]You guys...overreacting to every bad game

The first 3 games Melo was averaging something like 35ppg @ 56 TS%. Now he has two bad shooting nights and he's awful? I'm betting he wont't stay cold for 3 straight games. Not him.[/QUOTE]

That's how it is until you prove yourself. Usually takes a championship, or a really dominant consistent run.

[QUOTE=Crafty]Mvp stuff right here[/QUOTE]

didnt iverson win an MVP with similar numbers?

[QUOTE=f0und]didnt iverson win an MVP with similar numbers?[/QUOTE]
31.4 ppg on 40% with 5.5 apg

[QUOTE=secund2nun]I'd say its just destructive period. I'd rather just play [B]team ball [/B]and go from there instead of forcing the offense through a player who is not good enough to have it forced through. If he were Lebron or Durant then you can force the offense through them, but not Melo.[/QUOTE]

team ball is kinda overrated imo

the most unselfish, best passing team in the league (the spurs), still has to lean pretty heavily on parker, ginobili (less this year) and duncan to get the defense out of position.

The sad thing is, when he does show up, no one says a word.

This is Melo, this is what he does. You can see guys motivation dwindle when he just dribbles around and hoists up a shot...People who play with ballhogs in real life would understand. Even if he is scoring everytime, nobody else can get a rhythm so of course they will clank shots when they finally get them and will give less effort on defense, less help defense, more uncontested drives to the hoop, less diving for loose balls, less making the extra pass...Why make the extra pass if you know it will just stick when it gets in Melo's hands?