We going to act like Wade didn't almost cost the Heat the game?

[QUOTE=Frozen1]Tell me a bad play by wade late in the 4th.

He didn't have a bad play because he didn't have any play, he was just there being useless again in the lebron ball.

Lebron missed everything he tryed except [B]that three from an offensive rebound.[/B]

Don't try to blame wade for lebron having an awful late game and being bailed out by ray allen.[/QUOTE]

Yeah, not like that three was important or something.

Hilarious, how can anyone even try to defend Wade's offensive performance last night?

Dude bricked a turnaround jumper when he came into the game 3 mins left in the 4th, made two FTs (:applause:), did NOTHING the rest of the fourth, had a boneheaded turnover in OT and missed another jumpshot.

14 points on 6/15 shooting in an elimination game? You gonna blame that on LeBron too? :lol

[QUOTE=Ancient Legend]For some reason LeBron stopped being aggressive after Wade came in, and they had one less three point shooter with Miller out. It messed up the chemistry they were having.[/QUOTE]

The reason was because Wade screws up their spacing. Wade and Lebron are actually very bad fits together. Wade should come off of the bench. Miami would be a much better team. Though in reality they should trade Wade.

[QUOTE=tpols]:wtf:
Totally different circumstances.. Tony actually had teammates that were playing extremely well. Duncan was unstoppable and shot like 70 percent from the field. Kawhi was playing great.. His team scored 95 points in regulation.

Off the top of my head the score of that laker game was 81-78? Whatever it was it was way way lower scoring. Pau shot 33 percent and was awful offensively. All of the Boston stars shot like shit.. Pierce pretty sure allen was like 0-7 from three. That game was a brick fest on both sides mostly because of the grind it out halfcourt style of ball that was being played.

Comparing that game to Bron? Sure call it a bad game. Because both are held to a higher standard and are expected to contribute in other ways even if their shots are off. Comparing it to Parker? A guy who was subbed out on defensive plays in the final minutes and a guy who rebounds poorly.. He made a negative impact on both sides of the court aside from his two clutch shots. Kobe still played great D and rebounded extremely well in a game that was all about defense and rebounding since BOTH teams were bricking everything. Gotta look at the context of both games. They couldn't be more different.[/QUOTE]

Did you even read my post?

I talked solely about the shooting. I compared 6-23 to 6-24. I even said Kobe played better. Which he did. That is all I said.

I then got a response about Kobe's playoff run in 2010...ROFL

Please read my posts before you respond tpols...

Also find it funny you aren't repping Parker like you were just a few days ago...

[QUOTE=secund2nun]The reason was because Wade screws up their spacing. Wade and Lebron are actually very bad fits together. Wade should come off of the bench. Miami would be a much better team. Though in reality they should trade Wade.[/QUOTE]

Actually, Miami shouldn't do shit. Considering they've gone to three straight Finals, had the best record in the league, won 27 straight games, and is a game away from potentially winning back to back titles with this very formula . :facepalm

[QUOTE=Jacks3]23 pts/15 rebs and was the best player by thousands of miles through the first 6 games. 29/6/6/2/57% TS for the entire playoffs. lol @ just looking a one game.

****ing idiots. EVERYBODY struggled with their shot in that game 7.

lol @ what Parker did last night being "Kobe-esque".

Morons.

:roll:[/QUOTE]

Gasol was the real 2010 finals mvp and carried Kobe. It's okay just accept it.

[QUOTE=PJR]Actually, Miami shouldn't do shit. Considering they've gone to three straight Finals, had the best record in the league, won 27 straight games, and is a game away from potentially winning back to back titles with this very formula . :facepalm[/QUOTE]

They have done all of that despite Wade and Lebron fitting together terribly and Wade being lazy and having his midrange game disappear and play like trash for large parts of the last 2 playoff runs. Heat would be a million times better if they traded Wade for just a merely good center, not even a great one.

[QUOTE=secund2nun]Gasol was the real 2010 finals mvp and carried Kobe. It's okay just accept it.[/QUOTE]

He keeps going on about the rest of the series as if it's relevant.

Are we really going to pretend that when a player goes 6-23 or 6-24 or 6-25 in a big game in the finals...that the first thing we all think of isn't Kobe?

Of course it is. 6-24 is a real thing...it happened. So when another player shoots 6 of something around 24...we all think of Kobe in that game 7.

Hence Kobe-esque....

[QUOTE=Jacks3]As for Wade, he's having the worst post-season for any so-called "superstar" in history. Not only does he have terrible numbers (15/5/4), not only has his efficiency been historically bad (50% TS), but he's also destroying the Heat spacing.

The sample size on these mind-blowing stats from Hardwood Paroxysm writer Jared Dubin is small. But the point is clear, the Heat are way, way better with Wade on the bench right now:

Miami had an offensive efficiency of 92.0 with both LeBron and Wade on the court in Game 6.
Miami had an offensive efficiency of 143.3 with LeBron on the court and Wade on the bench in Game 6.
For the entire series, Miami has an offensive efficiency of 100.8 and a defensive efficiency of 112.7 with both LeBron and Wade on the court.
For the entire series, Miami has an offensive efficiency of 131.7 and a defensive efficiency of 89.5 with LeBron on the court and Wade on the bench.

Basically, the Heat are terrible when Wade and LeBron play together, and unstoppable when Wade is on the bench.

Spoelstra benched Wade for the majority of the fourth quarter in Game 6. During that time, the Heat turned a 10-point deficit into a 2-point lead. When Wade came back, San Antonio went on a run that nearly won them the title.

[url]http://www.businessinsider.com/dwyane-wade-nba-finals-stats-2013-6[/url]

What a joke this clown is. Top 3 SG All-Time? Better than Kobe?

:roll: :roll: :roll: :roll: :roll:[/QUOTE]

So you're discrediting his entire career beacuse of one sub-par, injured postseason run? And who said he's better than Kobe? Sounds to me like you're the clown. Nobody will care about his struggles if the Heat win game 7, especially if he has a big game (and I believe he will). It's no secret that LeBron and Wade are redundant, but when Wade was healthy this year they were dyamic on the court together. Plus the Heat are MUCH better defensiely when Wade is on the floor.

Ginobili and Wade are both washed-up. This is not debatable.

[QUOTE=secund2nun]They have done all of that despite Wade and Lebron fitting together terribly and Wade being lazy and having his midrange game disappear and play [B]like trash for large parts of the last 2 playoff runs.[/B] Heat would be a million times better if they traded Wade for just a merely good center, not even a great one.[/QUOTE]

Garbage.

Last years postseason, The James and Wade pairing outscored opponents by 178 (12.4 per 48 minutes), compared with plus-7.3 And no two players on any team had a better plus/minus postseason number than James and Wade. Conversely, when James was playing without Wade, the Heat were minus 15 in 165 minutes. And when Wade is playing without James, the Heat is minus 32 in 99 minutes. Let's not get in the way of facts here. :facepalm

Its kind of pathetic Lebron can only play good if he has all shooters on the floor im pretty sure all time great players could play in any system and still be dominant.

[QUOTE=DMAVS41]He keeps going on about the rest of the series as if it's relevant.

Are we really going to pretend that when a player goes 6-23 or 6-24 or 6-25 in a big game in the finals...that the first thing we all think of isn't Kobe?

Of course it is. 6-24 is a real thing...it happened. So when another player shoots 6 of something around 24...we all think of Kobe in that game 7.

Hence Kobe-esque....[/QUOTE]

It was amazing how 6-24 was ignored and Kobe was handed the 2010 finals MVP in one of the worst decisions ever. And Gasol was clearly better in games 1-6 as well. But such is life when you play for a massive market like LA where they will attribute all of your team's success to you and shift all of the blame to your teammates in an attempt to create a fake legend (Kobe and Rose).

[QUOTE] Kobe shot 6-24 in one of the biggest games of his career.[/QUOTE]

Nobody on either team had a good shooting performance during that game. It was a great defensive showing, and the reason we won that defensive struggle was because of the team play, rebounding, and making clutch plays. btw Doc Rivers and Tom Thibodeau both said Kobe was the key to the Lakers winning that game. He hit 7/8 free throws in the 4th quarter, grabbed 15 boards, played great D and hit a huge jumper with 3 minutes left to put the Lakers up 6 and the Celtics never could get back in the game after he hit that shot.

[QUOTE=Ne 1]Nobody on either team had a good shooting performance during that game. It was a great defensive showing, and the reason we won that defensive struggle was because of the team play, rebounding, and making clutch plays. btw Doc Rivers and Tom Thibodeau both said Kobe was the key to the Lakers winning that game. He hit 7/8 free throws in the 4th quarter, grabbed 15 boards, played great D and hit a huge jumper with 3 minutes left to put the Lakers up 6 and the Celtics never could get back in the game after he hit that shot.[/QUOTE]

And does all of that...most of which I actually agree with...change the fact that Kobe shot 6-24? Nope.

Which is why we all know when you see Parker go 6-23...the first thing you think of is Kobe's 6-24 game.

You guys are arguing with a ghost. Never once did I say Parker's game was as good as Kobe. I merely called going 6-23 in a big finals game Kobe-esque.

If Parker had gone 9-27 I would have gladly called it Dirk-esque.

Means nothing to me. I don't feel the need to rewrite history and pretend going 6-24 while taking terrible shots through 3 qtrs was somehow a positive thing for a team. it wasn't. And the only reason it's not one of the worst games by a superstar ever in a do or die game 7 in the finals is because the Lakers won.

[QUOTE=Ne 1]Nobody on either team had a good shooting performance during that game. It was a great defensive showing, and the reason we won that defensive struggle was because of the team play, rebounding, and making clutch plays. btw Doc Rivers and Tom Thibodeau both said Kobe was the key to the Lakers winning that game. He hit 7/8 free throws in the 4th quarter, grabbed 15 boards, played great D and hit a huge jumper with 3 minutes left to put the Lakers up 6 and the Celtics never could get back in the game after he hit that shot.[/QUOTE]
He's not going to listen to reason lol.. It's just hating. If a superstar choked before 2011 would we call every chokejob dirkesque? Still could if we deem his one title run a fluke and focus on his poorer moments. Arguments can be twisted in any which way.. I prefer to look at everything and not discredit when it's not warranted.