Biogenesis saying there are some NBA players using PEDs

[QUOTE=tazb]But I thought PEDs and steroids make you more injury prone? :lol[/QUOTE]
I know you're joking but they can in some ways. For instance my friend ( a pro baseball player) ripped his hamstring off of his hip. This was from lifting too much weight and is an injury often associated with steroids. In other words, it doesn't happen to many people who aren't juicing because they aren't strong enough to lift a weight that could cause this to happen. Of course they are used for recovery too but they can lead to quirky injuries like that.

[QUOTE=GrapeApe]Denial of what? We've reached the point where nobody is free of suspicion. Saying "every athlete is on PED's" may be an exaggeration, but it's not far fetched to assume the PED users outnumber the clean. Personally, I say let them use whatever the hell they want. Athletes have been putting things in their bodies to gain an edge since the beginning of modern athletics. The PED controversy is largely a media creation. It snowballed after Mark McGuire was discovered using andro while breaking the HR record. Players had been using PED's for years but that's when the media decided to run with the story.[/QUOTE]
Denial.

[QUOTE=GOBB]How is that "cheating"? Whats suspicious about it? These guys get paid multi million dollar deals. Fans like you bash them for being overpaid, making too much, should take a paycut as you play mega millions in hope you one day can strike it rich. Yet guys are rushing back from injury faster than expected and people are alarmed? Maybe he should sit out the entire season like Bynum. Wait then you'd be bashing him like you did Derrick Rose who took this path.

You fans cant have it every way.[/QUOTE]
I am a runner and follow professional tack and field which is another sport rife with PED abuse. I also know people who play or played in the NFL, NBA and MLB. Coming back from an injury like Kobe's is extremely suspicious if he's able to do that in that timeframe at his age. It just is. HGH, which they don't test for in the NBA could help you do that in that time for sure. I'm not saying that he's doing that but based on what I know from the athletes whom I know personally, it's definitely a strong possibility. I'm not saying this as an indictment of Kobe personally, I'm saying that it should raise eyebrows like a dude with cancer winning the tour de france or Clemens pitching 95 mph at 40. It's unlikely that it would be possible.

[QUOTE=Magic 32][IMG]http://letschickchat.org/wp-content/uploads/2012/12/Denial.jpg[/IMG][/QUOTE]

I'm not even saying anyone is clean. I am saying if you want to launch accusations you better have something better than someone says some guy picks something up for a guy that has different initials than the guy I am accusing.

[QUOTE=KyleKong]:lol

Well, at least we know Carmelo's puggy ass isn't abusing.

But in all seriousness if Olympics would have caught star players by now from juicing. They don't **** around with that shit and David Stern can't protect them.[/QUOTE]

You do know that you can fail to show up for a random blood test up to 3x right? The amount of time that the NBA players are in the Olympics, they'd be gone by then.

Victor Conte said you'd have to want to get caught, if the Olympic committee caught you.

Wade's jaw is definitely a side-effect.

[QUOTE=GOBB]Post a photo of you as a teenager. Then as a grown ass man.

He's a pro athlete. They have state of the art facilities, doctors, physicians, trainers some even personal. Own chefs. Yeah its hard to fathom anyone as a broke teenager getting bigger as they grow and are exposed to such things. :rolleyes:[/QUOTE]

You seem to not realize why he posted those pics huh? Too many dense people on this site.

[QUOTE=Magic 32][IMG]http://letschickchat.org/wp-content/uploads/2012/12/Denial.jpg[/IMG][/QUOTE]

:lol

[QUOTE=jzek]Wade's jaw is definitely a side-effect.[/QUOTE]

So is Lebron's.

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[QUOTE=tikay0]You seem to not realize why he posted those pics huh? Too many dense people on this site.[/QUOTE]

You're just as dumb as Magic_32 to defend him.

He posted a picture of 17 year old LeBron to a 27/28 year old LeBron. What kind of ****ing conclusive evidence can you get from that that determines he's taking steroids?

[QUOTE=Magic 32]Just countering a stupid defense.

Anyway, James is on PED. Period.

You know it, I know it, everyone knows it.[/QUOTE]

By making a stupid counter? Good idea.

My point was that using an eye test is a terrible way to determine PED use, especially when you compare a teenager to a grown man with years of training.

I'm doubting your use of evidence, not your claim.

[QUOTE=Solefade]You're just as dumb as Magic_32 to defend him.

He posted a picture of 17 year old LeBron to a 27/28 year old LeBron. What kind of ****ing conclusive evidence can you get from that that determines he's taking steroids?[/QUOTE]

[QUOTE]Originally Posted by [B]Solefade[/B]
if LeBron's been using PEDs then he's been using it since he was in middle school and no one ever caught him.
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:rolleyes:

I wouldn't be surprised if guys like LeBron were using steroids but honestly I don't really care. If someone told me I could take a pill or a shot and guarantee myself millions of dollars I would be a fool to say no. These guys are professional athletes and this business is extremely competitive. That leads me to believe most if not all players would be willing to take the risks associated with performance enhancing substances to gain an edge on the competition. Don't underestimate what people will do for money, prestige, and fame.

For the ones which sick of that Magic 32 idiot.
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Enjoy the rest of the day.

[QUOTE=Odinn]For the ones which sick of that Magic 32 idiot.
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Enjoy the rest of the day.[/QUOTE]

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