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Do you have cancer on the tip of your dick? What's with the odd black pigmentation? It's in the shape of a giant foam finger...you should get your shit checked out...
[QUOTE=DonDadda59]So what you're saying, in a nutshell-
No one paid even the slightest attention to the billion dollar campaigns Obama and his people orchestrated. You know, the whole 'Hope' and 'Change' centered rhetoric. Disregarded all of his speeches, debate content, TV ads, editorials, etc.
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I understand your point that he was on the Democratic ticket and thus would automatically get lots of votes, plus his campaign slogans and personal rhetoric and for a host of other reasons.
[QUOTE=DonDadda59]
They took one look at him and thought 'hey, I'm a White guy who listens to rap and wants to be Black now that it's cool, wouldn't want to offend any ultra sensitive Black people by voting for McCain/Romney in this confidential ballot process'.
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But you are grossly underestimating how much this happened too. Especially among women and on college campuses. Soooo many white people wanted to be SEEN supporting Obama. They wanna feel like they are the black community's big bro, like somebody out there depends on them. They have a very mothering, nurturing instinct. Thats why women vote Dem and so do pansy men. Thatts the truth. Conservatives are typically the personalities who go out and get things done, libs are the emos who sit at home nurturing the little ones and worrying and feeling hormonal and insecure. True facts.
Of course college libs dont go out and volunteer in the black community, they dont pay attention to important legislation, or try to promote values that the black community could use. They instead just cry 'racism' (probably more often and more inaccurately than most black folks) because they want to LOOK like theyre the tolerance police. They wanna be seen doin it. Its their quest for personal identity.
[QUOTE=DonDadda59]So what you're saying, in a nutshell-
No one paid even the slightest attention to the billion dollar campaigns Obama and his people orchestrated. You know, the whole 'Hope' and 'Change' centered rhetoric. Disregarded all of his speeches, debate content, TV ads, editorials, etc.
They took one look at him and thought 'hey, I'm a White guy who listens to rap and wants to be Black now that it's cool, wouldn't want to offend any ultra sensitive Black people by voting for McCain/Romney in this confidential ballot process'.
Seriously? This is what you think happened... 65-70 million times... twice.
Seriously?
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Yes.
Hope and Change had to do with the fact that everybody "hoped" and wanted to "change" the fact that we will finally have a black president.
Then factor in people that actually like his political views and that is why he has won as easily as he did.
People that like his political views + 99.9% of the black population's votes = landslide victory
Do you actually believe anything that you typed? :lol
Obama wasn't even the first Black candidate to run for the presidency, all of the others from the 70s on (ie, Jackson, Sharpton, Keyes, Chisolm, Cain) Never made it past the primary stage. I guess 2008 was when w[I]i[/I]ggerism and liberal pansy pandering reached their zenith?
Cocaine's a helluva drug.
[QUOTE=DonDadda59]Obama wasn't even the first Black candidate to run for the presidency, all of the others from the 70s on (ie, Jackson, Sharpton, Keyes, Chisolm, Cain) Never made it past the primary stage. I guess 2008 was when w[I]i[/I]ggerism and liberal pansy pandering reached their zenith?.[/QUOTE]
Yes.
It's hip to be black in today's society primarily because of how ultra sensitive blacks are, so if you don't completely follow black people you are a racist.
But like I said, his political views got him there too. I'm just saying he won as easily as he did because he was black. A lot of people voted for him because he was black and nothing more, mostly blacks themselves.
[QUOTE=Electric Slide]Yes.
It's hip to be black in today's society primarily because of how ultra sensitive blacks are, so if you don't completely follow black people you are a racist.
But like I said, his political views got him there too. I'm just saying he won as easily as he did because he was black. A lot of people voted for him because he was black and nothing more, mostly blacks themselves.[/QUOTE]
Also young white college kids wanted to say to their grandkids, "I'm in the history books, I voted for the first black President." Like a social status type thing. Maybe that example is just a small percentage, but I believe it to have some relevance, some form of truth to it.
George W. Bush was possibly the worst president in the history of the United States. Obama is going to have to fukc up a lot more over the next few years to even be mentioned in the same sentence as George W.
[QUOTE=Electric Slide]Yes.
It's hip to be black in today's society primarily because of how ultra sensitive blacks are, so if you don't completely follow black people you are a racist.
But like I said, his political views got him there too. I'm just saying he won as easily as he did because he was black. A lot of people voted for him because he was black and nothing more, mostly blacks themselves.[/QUOTE]
Christ I forgot how racist America still is. I'm glad I moved out.
You people are overrating race so much in this equation.
Stop trying to find a race war IN EVERYTHING.
You are underrating Obama. He is a great speech maker he is a brilliant campaigner.
Obama is one of the greatest orators in modern times. The whole marketing campaign around him was about how he was going to bring
hope and change-this combined with his awesome speeches did a lot.
Bush and Kerry for example sucked at giving speeches, so this new young guy comes in and gives amazing speeches, kind of makes you assume he's going to be amazing at everything else.
He promised so many amazing things. He acted really honest. On top of that he's a really intelligent and charismatic guy and came across as witty and cool in all of his interviews and debates. He seemed like he knew what he was doing, especially compared to Bush.
Obama is a great campaigner I dont think any of us can deny that. He won because of his speeches and the marketing campaign surrounding him. He even convinced Scandanavia to award him the Nobel Prize for Peace before he even did anything, based on his speeches alone.
He really did create good PR for America, even now that he's proved himself to be a shit president and war monger people still are always telling me they like America now because Obama.
Stop seeing a race-war in everything morons. It sounds really backwards. If Obama was Japanese American or Mexican-American or Navajo-American he would have done equally well.
[QUOTE=Nick Young]Christ I forgot how racist America still is. I'm glad I moved out.
You people are overrating race so much in this equation.
Stop trying to find a race war IN EVERYTHING.
You are underrating Obama. He is a great speech maker he is a brilliant campaigner.[/quote]
Oh yeah, I forgot, race is irrelevant when blacks are favored but when blacks don't get their way it's racism.
[QUOTE=Electric Slide]Oh yeah, I forgot, race is irrelevant when blacks are favored but when blacks don't get their way it's racism.[/QUOTE]
If Obama was white he would have won as well. Hell, he is basically half white anyways, isn't he. Race has nothing to do with if you're a good president or not. I refuse to believe that it has anything to do with winning presidential elections in America in this day and age.
Obama is a Yale graduate and one of the greatest orators orators of the 20th century.
Oratory is what won him the elections. It is a lost art in modern politics and Obama brought it back.
Get out of the past people. Stop with this 1970s race war bullshit. Move on.
[QUOTE=Nick Young]If Obama was white he would have won as well. Hell, he is basically half white anyways, isn't he. Race has nothing to do with if you're a good president or not. I refuse to believe that it has anything to do with winning presidential elections in America in this day and age.
Obama is a Yale graduate and one of the greatest orators orators of the 20th century.
Oratory is what won him the elections. It is a lost art in modern politics and Obama brought it back.
Get out of the past people. Stop with this 1970s race war bullshit. Move on.[/QUOTE]
Most whites and people that understand politics voted for him for that reason. The w[COLOR="Black"]i[/COLOR]ggers and black people just voted for him because he is black though.
It's the truth.
[QUOTE=OldSkoolball#52]I understand your point that he was on the Democratic ticket and thus would automatically get lots of votes, plus his campaign slogans and personal rhetoric and for a host of other reasons.
But you are grossly underestimating how much this happened too. Especially among women and on college campuses. Soooo many white people wanted to be SEEN supporting Obama. They wanna feel like they are the black community's big bro, like somebody out there depends on them. They have a very mothering, nurturing instinct. Thats why women vote Dem and so do pansy men. Thatts the truth. Conservatives are typically the personalities who go out and get things done, libs are the emos who sit at home nurturing the little ones and worrying and feeling hormonal and insecure. True facts.
Of course college libs dont go out and volunteer in the black community, they dont pay attention to important legislation, or try to promote values that the black community could use. They instead just cry 'racism' (probably more often and more inaccurately than most black folks) because they want to LOOK like theyre the tolerance police. They wanna be seen doin it. Its their quest for personal identity.[/QUOTE]
This is so much bullshit.
Repubs get things done while whiny lib emos are all jobless losers huh?
Then why are the redstates the biggest users of the welfare system?
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Why do the lib states pay more in federal taxes than they get back in federal services (and vice versa for red states)?
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There is some kernel of fact (as is the case in most hyperbole), and some people probably voted for him to seem "cool", but you are completely ignoring the disenfranchisement of fiscal conservatives by the neo-con and teaparty takeover of the repub party. I know many former repubs who were completely turned off by the evangelical, anti-science, moral agenda of the recent national republican campaigns.
[QUOTE=Nick Young]Christ I forgot how racist America still is. I'm glad I moved out.
You people are overrating race so much in this equation.
Stop trying to find a race war IN EVERYTHING.
You are underrating Obama. He is a great speech maker he is a brilliant campaigner.
[B]Obama is one of the greatest orators in modern times[/B]. The whole marketing campaign around him was about how he was going to bring
hope and change-this combined with his awesome speeches did a lot.
Bush and Kerry for example sucked at giving speeches, so this new young guy comes in and gives amazing speeches, kind of makes you assume he's going to be amazing at everything else.
He promised so many amazing things. He acted really honest. On top of that he's a really intelligent and charismatic guy and came across as witty and cool in all of his interviews and debates. He seemed like he knew what he was doing, especially compared to Bush.
Obama is a great campaigner I dont think any of us can deny that. He won because of his speeches and the marketing campaign surrounding him. He even convinced Scandanavia to award him the Nobel Prize for Peace before he even did anything, based on his speeches alone.
He really did create good PR for America, even now that he's proved himself to be a shit president and war monger people still are always telling me they like America now because Obama.
Stop seeing a race-war in everything morons. It sounds really backwards. If Obama was Japanese American or Mexican-American or Navajo-American he would have done equally well.[/QUOTE]
Not true.
[url]http://articles.washingtonpost.com/2012-01-20/opinions/35439712_1_barack-obama-tarp-bailout-buffett-rule[/url]
[url]http://bigstory.ap.org/article/essay-deconstructing-barack-obama-orator[/url]
[url]http://usatoday30.usatoday.com/news/washington/2010-01-24-obamaorations_N.htm[/url]
Its like comparing a crap and a turd
or the stench of a skunk or rotten eggs
Either way,Obama and Bush are two of the Worst Presidents in History.
Both have been extremely horrible and both were elected twiceand Both have did worse their 2nd term,just getting worse and worse.
Obama got elected bc he was a Democrat,promised change,jobs,
was younger,people were sick of Republicans after Bush's mistakes,and he appealed to the people
a younger,biracial president who knows the current generation
and can appeal to their needs,yet
Hes just the other side of the pile of crap between a coin of Bush and Obama.
[QUOTE=travelingman]Not true.
[url]http://articles.washingtonpost.com/2012-01-20/opinions/35439712_1_barack-obama-tarp-bailout-buffett-rule[/url]
[url]http://bigstory.ap.org/article/essay-deconstructing-barack-obama-orator[/url]
[url]http://usatoday30.usatoday.com/news/washington/2010-01-24-obamaorations_N.htm[/url][/QUOTE]
Articles saying that Obama isn't a good orator aren't going to convince me that he isn't.
I get pumped up listening to his speeches still, and I hate the guy.