Re: the only man to win multiple championships without another NBA HOF team mate
[QUOTE=NumberSix]Pau will probably make the HOF before Kobe.[/QUOTE]
its possible
kobe may play 5 more years. pau 3-4 if his legs/feet dont hold up
and itel be as an international contributor :cheers:
Re: the only man to win multiple championships without another NBA HOF team mate
[QUOTE=kennethgriffin]its possible
kobe may play 5 more years. pau 3-4 if his legs/feet dont hold up
and itel be as an international contributor :cheers:[/QUOTE]
Will Kobe make the HOF as a franchise player or as a sidekick?
Re: the only man to win multiple championships without another NBA HOF team mate
Pau gasol is a HoF lock. Oscar Schmidt is in the HoF
Re: the only man to win multiple championships without another NBA HOF team mate
[QUOTE=DMAVS41][url]http://www.basketball-reference.com/leaders/hof_prob.html?redir[/url]
Here is one method showing Gasol has a higher probability of making the HOF on his NBA resume than not.[/QUOTE]
you just owned yourself
btw thanks for pointing out kobe is the only 100% guaranteed hof'er in the nba
1. Kobe Bryant 1.0000
2. Tim Duncan 0.9999
3. LeBron James 0.9995
4. Dwyane Wade 0.9991
5. Kevin Garnett 0.9990
6. Dirk Nowitzki 0.9867
7. Paul Pierce 0.9827
8. Ray Allen 0.9663
9. Chris Bosh 0.9484
10. Chris Paul 0.8911
11. Tony Parker 0.8319
12. Carmelo Anthony 0.8167
13. Dwight Howard 0.8072
[B]14. Vince Carter 0.7678[/B]
15. Kevin Durant 0.7203
16. Pau Gasol 0.6127
[B]17. Tracy McGrady 0.5822[/B]
18. Steve Nash 0.5627
[B]19. Amar'e Stoudemire 0.5560[/B]
the bold wont make the HOF
and dont you find it funny how durant has .10 more points on his HOF possibility than gasol when gasols nearly finished his career and durant has barely started his
plus.. durant hasnt done anything yet except win scoring titles. and even if his career ended tomorrow he'd have no chance ( with .10 points more than gasol )
infact. nash without his 2 mvps would have no shot at the HOF either
only guys who are hall of famers if they retired tomorrow on that list are
1. Kobe Bryant 1.0000
2. Tim Duncan 0.9999
3. LeBron James 0.9995
4. Dwyane Wade 0.9991
5. Kevin Garnett 0.9990
6. Dirk Nowitzki 0.9867
7. Paul Pierce 0.9827
8. Ray Allen 0.9663
9. Chris Bosh 0.9484
10. Chris Paul 0.8911
11. Tony Parker 0.8319
with a wild card exception for nash due to his mvps
which basically means you need around 0.80+ to make it
gasols nowhere close as far as NBA accolades
sorry. thanks for proving my point for me
:cheers:
Re: the only man to win multiple championships without another NBA HOF team mate
[QUOTE=kennethgriffin]you just owned yourself
btw thanks for pointing out kobe is the only 100% guaranteed hof'er in the nba
1. Kobe Bryant 1.0000
2. Tim Duncan 0.9999
3. LeBron James 0.9995
4. Dwyane Wade 0.9991
5. Kevin Garnett 0.9990
6. Dirk Nowitzki 0.9867
7. Paul Pierce 0.9827
8. Ray Allen 0.9663
9. Chris Bosh 0.9484
10. Chris Paul 0.8911
11. Tony Parker 0.8319
12. Carmelo Anthony 0.8167
13. Dwight Howard 0.8072
[B]14. Vince Carter 0.7678[/B]
15. Kevin Durant 0.7203
16. Pau Gasol 0.6127
[B]17. Tracy McGrady 0.5822[/B]
18. Steve Nash 0.5627
[B]19. Amar'e Stoudemire 0.5560[/B]
the bold wont make the HOF
and dont you find it funny how durant has .10 more points on his HOF possibility than gasol when gasols nearly finished his career and durant has barely started his
plus.. durant hasnt done anything yet except win scoring titles. and even if his career ended tomorrow he'd have no chance ( with .10 points more than gasol )
infact. nash without his 2 mvps would have no shot at the HOF either
only guys who are hall of famers if they retired tomorrow on that list are
1. Kobe Bryant 1.0000
2. Tim Duncan 0.9999
3. LeBron James 0.9995
4. Dwyane Wade 0.9991
5. Kevin Garnett 0.9990
6. Dirk Nowitzki 0.9867
7. Paul Pierce 0.9827
8. Ray Allen 0.9663
9. Chris Bosh 0.9484
10. Chris Paul 0.8911
11. Tony Parker 0.8319
with a wild card exception for nash due to his mvps
which basically means you need around 0.80+ to make it
[B]gasols nowhere close as far as NBA accolades[/B]
sorry. thanks for proving my point for me
:cheers:[/QUOTE]
What's with the obsession of accolades? All that matters is how much you improve your team's chances of winning as many championships or possible.
Re: the only man to win multiple championships without another NBA hall of famer
[QUOTE=aj1987]Weren't the '09 and '10 Lakers the best rebounding teams in the NBA? I'm pretty sure that they had the best front court in the NBA as well.[/QUOTE]
Weren't the '12 and '13 Heat the most stacked team in league history relative to competition?
Yikes.
Re: the only man to win multiple championships without another NBA HOF team mate
just looked up the minimum average needed to make the HOF based on past inductees and their score
[url]http://www.basketball-reference.com/about/hof_prob.html[/url]
Hall of Fame probabilities are presented for all players with a minimum of 400 NBA games played. Although it can be risky to make predictions for active players, you can think of these probabilities as answering the question "If this player retired today, what is the probability he would be elected to the Hall of Fame?". The model was built using a pool of 750 players. One method to assess classification accuracy is to compare the estimated Hall of Fame probability for the case to the actual result. Of the 750 players, 89 had been elected to the Hall of Fame and 661 had not. If the player's predicted probability of election was greater than or equal to 0.5, I predicted that he was in the Hall of Fame. Of the 89 players in the Hall of Fame, 74 were correctly classified (83.1%) and 15 were not (16.9%). Of the 661 players not in the Hall of Fame, 651 were correctly classified (98.5%) and 10 were not (1.5%). Overall, 725 of the 750 players (96.7%) were correctly classified by the model.
gasols .60 isnt enough
Re: the only man to win multiple championships without another NBA HOF team mate
I'm pretty sure that 14+ years in the NBA with 2 titles (as an all-star) assures that he won't be an "international contributor". It's not as if he's Arvydas Sabonis. Gasol has had a terrific NBA career.
Re: the only man to win multiple championships without another NBA hall of famer
[QUOTE=Doranku]Weren't the '12 and '13 Heat the most stacked team in league history relative to competition?
Yikes.[/QUOTE]
Obviously not considering that they were taken to 2 game 7s and had 1 player who lead the team in almost every category possible.
Re: the only man to win multiple championships without another NBA HOF team mate
[QUOTE=GrapeApe]I'm pretty sure that 14+ years in the NBA with 2 titles (as an all-star) assures that he won't be an "international contributor". It's not as if he's Arvydas Sabonis. Gasol has had a terrific NBA career.[/QUOTE]
it was terrific
i like gasol. hes a really good player. for a few years he was great. even on an allstar level
and we couldnt have won without his help
but to say hes a hall of fame nba player is a joke
Re: the only man to win multiple championships without another NBA hall of famer
Gasol WILL go into the hall of fame so there goes your thread
Re: the only man to win multiple championships without another NBA hall of famer
[QUOTE=red1]Gasol WILL go into the hall of fame so there goes your thread[/QUOTE]
another person that has a problem with reading comprehension
:roll:
[SIZE="4"]anyone can make the hall of fame
as an ambassador, coach, owner, executive, sponsor, international contributor, pioneer, nba player, wnba player etc...
[/SIZE]
kobe had no other legit nba hall of famer
gasols nba hof rating is 0.621
[B][U]
the minimum to make the hall of fame is 0.83-0.84[/U][/B]
Re: the only man to win multiple championships without another NBA HOF team mate
[QUOTE=kennethgriffin]it was terrific
i like gasol. hes a really good player. for a few years he was great. even on an allstar level
and we couldnt have won without his help
but to say hes a hall of fame nba player is a joke[/QUOTE]
Are there any NBA players with 4 all-star appearances and 2 titles (while being an all-star) that aren't in the HOF? I don't feel like looking it up but I'm guessing the answer is no. Gasol's NBA career alone would likely get him to the HOF.
Re: the only man to win multiple championships without another NBA HOF team mate
Kennyboy getting contantly owned in his threads tho. :roll:
Gasol's a clear cut 1st ballot NBA hall of famer brah
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Re: the only man to win multiple championships without another NBA hall of famer
[QUOTE=kennethgriffin]another person that has a problem with reading comprehension
:roll:
[SIZE="4"]anyone can make the hall of fame
as an ambassador, coach, owner, executive, sponsor, international contributor, pioneer, nba player, wnba player etc...
[/SIZE]
kobe had no other legit nba hall of famer
gasols nba hof rating is 0.621
[B][U]
the minimum to make the hall of fame is 0.83-0.84[/U][/B][/QUOTE]
Kenny you know that I like you and give you credit for your trolling but even you must realize that thread is a stretch.