LMAO @ yet another thread spreading more Jordan 'myths'.
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[QUOTE=andgar923]LMAO @ yet another thread spreading more Jordan 'myths'.[/QUOTE]
You do realize those stats are from a collection of his best games in those seasons, since these are the ones available on the internet, right?
All those stats are trending on the high side based on that.
[QUOTE=plowking]You do realize those stats are from a collection of his best games in those seasons, since these are the ones available on the internet, right?
All those stats are trending on the high side based on that.[/QUOTE]
You do realize he shot .497 or 50% with 30.1 ppg for his whole career? That is very close to the numbers posted. :rolleyes:
[QUOTE=Asukal]You do realize he shot .497 or 50% with 30.1 ppg for his whole career? That is very close to the numbers posted. :rolleyes:[/QUOTE]
We're constantly told by MJ fans his jumpshot got better as he got older... since he refined his game and all that.
Well, he isn't shooting 50% from midrange then, in 91, when he was shooting under 50% in his second 3 peat while becoming a so called better shooter. Especially when you factor in how good a finisher he was at the ring.
So it is literally impossible for him to have been a 50% midrange shooter, given the list of games would have been from his more impressive games, and the fact that he became a better shooter makes it obvious it was trending on the high side in terms of stats.
In reality, he was probably a 70% shooter near the basket, and anywhere from 43-46% from midrange. Similar to Chris Paul in that regard from midrange.
[QUOTE=plowking][B]We're constantly told by MJ fans his jumpshot got better as he got older... since he refined his game and all that.
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Well, he isn't shooting 50% from midrange then, in 91, [B]when he was shooting under 50% in his second 3 peat while becoming a so called better shooter[/B]. Especially when you factor in how good a finisher he was at the ring.
So it is literally impossible for him to have been a 50% midrange shooter, given the list of games would have been from his more impressive games, and the fact that he became a better shooter makes it obvious it was trending on the high side in terms of stats.
In reality, he was probably a 70% shooter near the basket, and anywhere from 43-46% from midrange. Similar to Chris Paul in that regard from midrange.[/QUOTE]
That's totally not true. 80's MJ had great midrange game, its just that he relied more on his ability to get to the paint. Past his prime, he relied more on his iso fadeaways which are tough shots so his efficiency dipped a bit. He was a great mid range shooter since day 1. :whatever:
[QUOTE=Asukal]That's totally not true. 80's MJ had great midrange game, its just that he relied more on his ability to get to the paint. Past his prime, he relied more on his iso fadeaways which are tough shots so his efficiency dipped a bit. He was a great mid range shooter since day 1. :whatever:[/QUOTE]
[B]Can say it depends on one's definition of 'great' but you're totally on point there.
In the mid-80's he was killing teams by slashing/driving with his freakish athleticism, major finishing skills and very good handles... To go along with that, he had a sick jumpshot from just outside the paint, call it close-range or not but it was from what it's considered mid-range area. Plus, he could jump out the gym as known, while doing just that for those J's and releasing it at the peak out his jump... Many times you'd see him pumpfaking in mid-air and still making the shot.
As the years passed he always improved his overall game along with his jumper, most importantly his range...
By the late-80's he was wetting them mid-range J's, even deep ones. And then even developed into a solid 3pt-shooter.
Ofc, as the years went by he lost some athleticism, later on still a great overall athlete but relying more on jumpers... Thing is that he always developed, including his post-game, so on...
BTW, Jordan was a better FT shooter in his younger days.
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No matter how you slice it or analyze it, MJ always comes out on top. He is legit. Nothing was given to him. Everyone tried to beat him but he accepted the challenge, took on all comers and beat them all. No one was able to impose his will on the game on both ends better than MJ. They don't say, "the Michael Jordan of XXXX" for no reason. It is like an accepted phrase in American culture. When someone is so great at something, people will say that phrase.
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[QUOTE=Trollsmasher]People jerking off to arbitrary chosen games in this thread:facepalm
I wonder how many "off games" have been included in this. I doubt there were many.
Great work though.[/QUOTE]
Probably not, Jordan didn't have many off games.
So now we're arguing with presumption? Hope that doesn't become an ISH thing. Give me the arbitrary numbers which are at least factual over purely guessing.
[QUOTE=plowking]We're constantly told by MJ fans his jumpshot got better as he got older... since he refined his game and all that.
Well, he isn't shooting 50% from midrange then, in 91, when he was shooting under 50% in his second 3 peat while becoming a so called better shooter. Especially when you factor in how good a finisher he was at the ring.
So it is literally impossible for him to have been a 50% midrange shooter, given the list of games would have been from his more impressive games, and the fact that he became a better shooter makes it obvious it was trending on the high side in terms of stats.
In reality, he was probably a 70% shooter near the basket, and anywhere from 43-46% from midrange. Similar to Chris Paul in that regard from midrange.[/QUOTE]
Umm CP3 has been near 50% from midrange the past couple seasons and well above this season while doing all the creating himself pretty much, very lowly assisted, from pullups. He has the best midrange in the league now that Dirk is past prime
CP3 is a top 5 midrange ever anyways, only behind Dirk, Bird and MJ, maybe Dantley/English
I hear Jordan loves to make that "baaa baaa" sound. You know why? Cause he's the freaking GOAT!
The illegal defense rules inflated offensive numbers by hindering team defense,
you guys
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