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[QUOTE=secund2nun]MJ= overrated that's why. They replaced him with a D-league scrub and won 55 games. Imagine if they replaced his roster spot with someone like Wade, Drexler...or dare I say Lebron or Shaq.[/QUOTE]
[B]MJ is Not Overrated (Only By His Stans)
Its PIPPEN Who is Underrated! Thats All![/B]
[QUOTE=Round Mound][B]MJ is Not Overrated (Only By His Stans)
Its PIPPEN Who is Underrated! Thats All![/B][/QUOTE]
I agree. Pippen is underrated probably because scoring is overrated. Most people seem to be MJ stans which is why he is overrated lol.
why is op still a fagggot when not talking about bran?
[QUOTE=Round Mound][B]Why? Simple....[/B]
[IMG]http://static5.bornrichimages.com/wp-content/uploads/s3/2013/06/pippen_allstar_peove.jpg[/IMG][/QUOTE]
The red shoe game! Pip was a great player.
[QUOTE=secund2nun][B]MJ= overrated that's why.[/B] They replaced him with a D-league scrub and won 55 games. Imagine if they replaced his roster spot with someone like Wade, Drexler...or dare I say Lebron or Shaq.[/QUOTE]
This is rediculous. The 94 Bulls were essentially the same team as the 96 Bulls. The difference is an upgrade from Grant to Rodman, Kukoc had a few years under his belt, and Jordan's return.
Id say without Jordan, but with Rodman in place of Grant and Kukoc having had some NBA experience, that team wins 62 games and makes the finals. Possibly win.
[QUOTE=secund2nun]I agree. Pippen is underrated probably because scoring is overrated. Most people seem to be MJ stans which is why he is overrated lol.[/QUOTE]
LOL MJ made Pippen.
Pippen never score more because that's not his Job, its MJ. His Job is to Defend the best player so MJ could use is full energy in scoring.
There's two reason why he's such a good wing defender.
1. Athleticism - (Ofcourse not his first 2 season).
2. MJ - With the athleticism, MJ kick pippen(not only pippen but others too) to work his ass off every day practices.
-Pippen has the luxury to practices and improve his defense against the most skilled offensive player in the league. Its Like in Boxing, MJ is perfect sparring partner to learn and experiment the tendencies and other offensive moves.
[QUOTE=c5terror]LOL MJ made Pippen.
Pippen never score more because that's not his Job, its MJ. His Job is to Defend the best player so MJ could use is full energy in scoring.
There's two reason why he's such a good wing defender.
1. Athleticism - (Ofcourse not his first 2 season).
2. MJ - With the athleticism, MJ kick pippen(not only pippen but others too) to work his ass off every day practices.
-Pippen has the luxury to practices and improve his defense against the most skilled offensive player in the league. Its Like in Boxing, MJ is perfect sparring partner to learn and experiment the tendencies and other offensive moves.[/QUOTE]
Except the most dominate part of Scottie's defense was his help/team defense. He made the biggest impact when he was disrupting a teams entire offense, not defending the best scorer on the other team.
[QUOTE=Smoke117]Except the most dominate part of Scottie's defense was his help/team defense. He made the biggest impact when he was disrupting a teams entire offense, not defending the best scorer on the other team.[/QUOTE]
Yes, That's was also MJ's Job before pippen developed. MJ is also above average when it comes to disrupting offense, Pippen also learned that from MJ of course pippen make it better if not equal because of his athleticism.
-3rd alltime leader in steal
-3x steal title
-1x DPOY
-200+steal 100+block in a season(Pippen also achieve this)
1998 --- MJ 34, PIP 32, ROD 36 ===Champion 62-20 75.6%
1999 --- Hakkem 36, PIP 33, Charles 35 == First Round Exit. 31-19 62%
LOL what happen to pippen i thought he'll bring that huge impact he gave on bulls.
[QUOTE=c5terror]1998 --- MJ 34, PIP 32, ROD 36 ===Champion 62-20 75.6%
1999 --- Hakkem 36, PIP 33, Charles 35 == First Round Exit. 31-19 62%
LOL what happen to pippen i thought he'll bring that huge impact he gave on bulls.[/QUOTE]
Wow, someone who clearly didn't watch the playoffs that year. Pip and Chuck went crazy. Hakeem averaged 13 PPG in the playoffs. He was terrible.
You're a joke of a person.
In the third game of that series Pip had 37-13-4 and Chuck had 30-23-5. Hakeem had 5 points.
winning culture.
[QUOTE=c5terror]LOL MJ made Pippen.
Pippen never score more because that's not his Job, its MJ. His Job is to Defend the best player so MJ could use is full energy in scoring.
There's two reason why he's such a good wing defender.
1. Athleticism - (Ofcourse not his first 2 season).
2. MJ - With the athleticism, MJ kick pippen(not only pippen but others too) to work his ass off every day practices.
[B]-Pippen has the luxury to practices and improve his defense against the most skilled offensive player in the league. Its Like in Boxing, MJ is perfect sparring partner to learn and experiment the tendencies and other offensive moves.[/B][/QUOTE]
Pippen helped Jordans game evolve as well
Here's an excerpt from an interview with Phil Jackson
[QUOTE]It was a late fall morning very early in Scottie Pippen’s professional career, as it was for Phil Jackson too, for that matter. The Bulls, at the time, held practices at the Deerfield Multiplex, with the coaches’ offices located just off the baseline, only 12 or so feet away from the court.
When Jackson and his staff emerged a few minutes before practice started, they saw Pippen and Michael Jordan on the side of the court working on a segment of the team’s offense called the “corner series.”
“They were making a reverse pivot and Scottie was going to the basket dunking with his left hand,” Jackson recalled in a phone interview. [B]“Michael was trying to learn from Scottie how to get the steps right to finish with his left hand. That was something that Scottie could do which Michael wanted in his repertoire.”[/B][/QUOTE]
Jordan himself stated that Pippen made him a better player
[B]"I know he makes me a better player. Unfortunately, it may take awhile, after we both retire, for people to realize just how good Scottie Pippen really was." -[/B]
This crazy notion that Pippen was made by Jordan needs to die.
[QUOTE=97 bulls]This is rediculous. The 94 Bulls were essentially the same team as the 96 Bulls. The difference is an upgrade from Grant to Rodman, Kukoc had a few years under his belt, and Jordan's return.
Id say without Jordan, but with Rodman in place of Grant and Kukoc having had some NBA experience, that team wins 62 games and makes the finals. Possibly win.[/QUOTE]
I concur, but I think with MJ the team would probably win more games with the 94 roster without Rodman considering how Pippen and Grant were playing, especially defensively. Pippen was in his prime defensively and Grant was playing his best years in 94-96. Of course you had Kerr and Toni Kukoc. And Phil Jackson was still the coach.
[B]Pippen = Greatest Combination of Driving-Ballhandling-Finshing-Offense Creating-Passing AND 1-4 DEFENSE to Ever Play[/B].:bowdown:
[QUOTE=Micku]I concur, but I think with MJ the team would probably win more games with the 94 roster without Rodman considering how Pippen and Grant were playing, especially defensively. Pippen was in his prime defensively and Grant was playing his best years in 94-96. Of course you had Kerr and Toni Kukoc. And Phil Jackson was still the coach.[/QUOTE]
I like Rodman because he could dominate and take over games with his defense and rebounding. I can't see Grant dominating a series the way Rodman did Seattle. Or defend Shaq the way Rodman did.