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just don't see that trade happening. Who is going to play perimeter defense besides Lebron? Who's going to protect the rim? Kyrie, Lebron, and Love with vets and scrubs is a playoff team if none of them get hurt, but you sure not about win a championship with one person that can play defense. This past Heat team would kill them even with a crippled Wade.
[QUOTE=RedBlackAttack]That is if we're over the cap. There is some disagreement on that matter.
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Continue to hear, despite Andrew Wiggins' name likely coming up in talks, Cavs have not offered him in any trade proposal.
Holding out hope... :confusedshrug:[/QUOTE]
i don't think your hope is misplaced.
[QUOTE=NattyPButter]just don't see that trade happening. Who is going to play perimeter defense besides Lebron? Who's going to protect the rim? Kyrie, Lebron, and Love with vets and scrubs is a playoff team if none of them get hurt, but you sure not about win a championship with one person that can play defense. This past Heat team would kill them even with a crippled Wade.[/QUOTE]
This is why all the other stuff really matters.
For starters, the Cavs should be getting back Dieng if they give up Wiggins and Bennett here. It would be kind of absurd not to given the needs of their team...and especially if they take Martin as well.
The key here is for the Cavs not to give up all their picks and flexibility going forward so they can build out that defense you rightly address.
[QUOTE=imnew09]I seriously don't see why Minnesota is rejecting any offer for Love when he's a valuable asset now. Once Love becomes an free agent, Minnesota aint getting sh*t for him[/QUOTE]
The thought process has changed in the league... If you can move the player fine but if it means taking back contracts you don't want then you don't pull the trigger on the deal...
Bad contracts even if they are expiring are too hard to get rid of now days, you're better off letting a player walk, letting that money come off the cap and filling your roster with guys you actually want.
Memo to Cavs fans: Love's not coming.
[QUOTE=smoovegittar]Memo to Cavs fans: Love's not coming.[/QUOTE]
Cool.
[QUOTE=smoovegittar]Memo to Cavs fans: Love's not coming.[/QUOTE]
Memo to the rest of the NBA fans:
We just had Wiggins and Lebron fall into our lap. Nothing could detract from this offseason.
[QUOTE=RedBlackAttack]The idea that we should just give away Bennett because we have Love is ridiculous, btw. You can't have enough good players. If the Cavs believe in Bennett's potential the way I do, having both he and Love is a great luxury. Hell, I could argue it will be even better for AB's growth to have the kind of player he should be shooting to become right here in Cleveland, on the roster.
Bennett is still just 21.[/QUOTE]
One ball. Bennett won't become the player he can and Cleveland can't maximize his talents when you have Kevin Love, Irving, LeBron, Waiters if he sticks around or Thompson. His potential is he comes off the bench and chips in 12 points a night for the next 3-4 years which is great. Certainly not something you refuse to include. Even if he has All-Star talent he'll always be getting the ball 4th or later on that team.
I wouldn't give him away but including him wouldn't make or break anything. I'd probably rather have a defensive guy or a shooter in place of him right now.
I'm personally tired of the Love talk. At this point, I hope nothing happens and we get to see how this team looks together.
Varejao
Thompson/Bennett
LeBron/Miller
Waiters/Wiggins
Irving/Delly
...is not a bad team.
[QUOTE=smoovegittar]Memo to Cavs fans: Love's not coming.[/QUOTE]
Don't want him
[QUOTE=Meticode]I'm personally tired of the Love talk. At this point, I hope nothing happens and we get to see how this team looks together.
Varejao
Thompson/Bennett
LeBron/Miller
Waiters/Wiggins
Irving/Delly
...is not a bad team.[/QUOTE]
it's actually a good team.
I think our second rounder is going to get a lot more burn than Carrick got last season too. Joe can flat out shoot the ball.
[QUOTE=Meticode]I'm personally tired of the Love talk. At this point, I hope nothing happens and we get to see how this team looks together.
Varejao
Thompson/Bennett
LeBron/Miller
Waiters/Wiggins
Irving/Delly
...is not a bad team.[/QUOTE]
Of course it's not a bad team.
But it just doesn't make a lot of sense to keep all those young guys.
They should make a move...they shouldn't just make a bad one. They should move Waiters or Wiggins....trying to develop them both while also trying to develop Bennett...while trying to compete for titles is stupid.
[QUOTE=smoovegittar]Memo to Cavs fans: Love's not coming.[/QUOTE]
At this point, this is what I'm hoping for. LeBron on this team is more talent than he ever had in Cleveland previously.
I'd i just want the cavs to maneuver for a capable defensive center.
[QUOTE=DukeDelonte13]Memo to the rest of the NBA fans:
We just had Wiggins and Lebron fall into our lap. Nothing could detract from this offseason.[/QUOTE]
Agreed. Happy for fans... want to see LeBron LEAD by example.