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[QUOTE=ImKobe]1) better offensive player
2) better defensive player
do I really need more than 2 out of 5?[/QUOTE]
Stop making junior high kids that are too stupid to realize Jordan as GOAT feel insecure! Maybe they can make 6000 posts next year on their 3 alts apiece to make up for their sad lives.:lol
really only need 2/5 of those reasons to legitimize your point.
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[b][b][b]Top 7 Reasons for Jordan Over Lebron[/b][/b][/b]:
[b]1)[/b] [url=http://www.insidehoops.com/forum/showpost.php?p=10456245&postcount=25][u]Jordan's stats are the best and they say he carried the largest offensive load ever[/u][/url]
[b]2)[/b] [url=http://www.insidehoops.com/forum/showpost.php?p=10454414&postcount=101][u]Jordan played better competition[/u][/url]
[b]3)[/b] [url=http://www.insidehoops.com/forum/showpost.php?p=10454505&postcount=104][u]Jordan played in eras that barely used the 3-point shot - all two-pointers is a tougher brand of basketball[/u][/url]
[b]4)[/b] [url=http://forums.realgm.com/boards/viewtopic.php?p=40451964#p40451964][u]Better hops off a vertical so he scored better in traffic[/u][/url]
[b]5)[/b] [url=http://forums.realgm.com/boards/viewtopic.php?p=40452998#p40452998][u]Not just quick for his size, but true guard quickness for greater mismatches vs. bigger defenders[/u][/url]
[b]6)[/b] Goat scoring ability allowed MJ to take on the largest load and attract maximum defensive attention to free up teammates, while Lebron [url=http://www.insidehoops.com/forum/showpost.php?p=10441295&postcount=236][u]undertook too small a load in the 2014 Finals[/u][/url].
[b]7)[/b] Not only could Jordan take on the aforementioned maximum offensive load to attract maximum defensive attention and free up teammates, but his [url=http://forums.realgm.com/boards/viewtopic.php?p=40476428#p40476428][u]superior scoring versatility (including off-ball skill)[/u][/url] allowed him to take on that maximum load while scoring in whatever capacity allowed star teammates to play to their strengths (i.e. with Jordan off-ball, Pippen was free to be the more ball-dominant point-forward).
:pimp: The factors above enabled Jordan to control his own destiny better - [url=http://www.insidehoops.com/forum/showpost.php?p=10422919&postcount=9][u]translation: 6 for 6[/u][/url]:
[b]MJ TV:[/b]
[url=http://forums.realgm.com/boards/viewtopic.php?p=40750321#p40750321][u]Top 15 Hanging Jumpshots by MJ[/u][/url]
[url=http://forums.realgm.com/boards/viewtopic.php?p=40414797#p40414797][u]Top 15 MJ Dunks Over Multiple Contesting Defenders[/u][/url]
[url=http://forums.realgm.com/boards/viewtopic.php?p=40382395#p40382395][u]Partial Collection of MJ Dunks Over All-Time Great Centers[/u][/url]
[url=http://www.insidehoops.com/forum/showpost.php?p=10441991&postcount=40][u]Various MJ Two-Handed Posters Over Defenders (two-foot takeoffs)[/u][/url]
[url=http://www.insidehoops.com/forum/showpost.php?p=10422917&postcount=172][u]MJ Hangtime Shots Off A One-Step Vertical (Drop-Step)[/u][/url]
[url=http://www.insidehoops.com/forum/showpost.php?p=10451420&postcount=76][u]MJ Flight[/u][/url]
[url=http://www.insidehoops.com/forum/showpost.php?p=10273035&postcount=86][u]Random MJ Posters[/u][/url]
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1) E*A*S*Y to have good stats in watered down era of basketball
2) Saturation of nonathletic white 5'11 white euro players in jordans era =/= competition
3) 3>2. It's more points on the board. Another aspect of basketball current players have to take into account.
4) There was no traffic. Defense in jordans era was abysmal. Look at the highlights. It's like high school defense. 90's jordans era defense = current highschool defense.
5) What? He is quicker than bigger players? What is the point of this:hammerhead:
6) Watered down era vs current era....like comparing 6th grade basketball and NBA basketball players.
7) Pippen stats went up without jordan, nullifying your argument:confusedshrug:
[QUOTE=mehyaM24][url]http://www.theepochtimes.com/n3/343567-8-reasons-lebron-james-is-better-than-michael-jordan/[/url]
here's a great article dispelling the nonsense in the OP with [B]8 reasons[/B] why lebron is a better all around player than jordan
[B]1. Defensive Versatility[/B]
Jordan used his speed and athleticism to shut down opposing perimeter players and generate turnovers. But James is just as athletic and he is capable of dominating almost any opposing player from point guards to power forwards. He is even capable of playing against some centers on defense.
To illustrate the difference between Jordan and James, let
[QUOTE=hawke812]1) E*A*S*Y to have good stats in watered down era of basketball
2) Saturation of nonathletic white 5'11 white euro players in jordans era =/= competition
3) 3>2. It's more points on the board. Another aspect of basketball current players have to take into account.
4) There was no traffic. Defense in jordans era was abysmal. Look at the highlights. It's like high school defense. 90's jordans era defense = current highschool defense.
5) What? He is quicker than bigger players? What is the point of this:hammerhead:
6) Watered down era vs current era....like comparing 6th grade basketball and NBA basketball players.
7) Pippen stats went up without jordan, nullifying your argument:confusedshrug:[/QUOTE]
way better than lebron ever face :rockon:
[QUOTE=Paul George 24]james never 3 peat :banana:[/QUOTE]
2 chances to repeat. 1 in 2011 and 2nd one was in 2014. failed horribly. :oldlol:
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[COLOR="Red"][SIZE="3"]Austin Rivers + Spacing + Hands Off Defense = Superstar MVP vs. Spurs:[/SIZE][/COLOR]
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[B]AERIAL VIEW of A. Rivers + Spacing = superstar.. Of course, with bigs getting beat on the perimeter, there's no resistance at the rim - the ballhandler gets an in-stride layup with the big flailing from behind:[/B]
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In today's game, with paint-camping banned, bigs are forced to come out of the paint to flood and shade in the ballhandler's wheelhouse: the perimeter.
Defending guards on the perimeter is a massive disadvantage for bigs, but today's spacing and paint-camping ban necessitate it.. Otoh, in previous eras, there was no spacing and paint-camping was legal, so bigs didn't need to come out of the paint to shade on the perimeter - they could just wait right under the rim "with no time restriction", as stiplulated in [url=http://nbahoopsonline.com/History/Leagues/NBA/Rules/Fouls.html][COLOR="Blue"]Rule 2b[/COLOR][/url] of the Illegal Defense Guidelines.
Shading was still used in previous eras [url=http://www.insidehoops.com/forum/showthread.php?t=358589&page=8][u]on screen roll[/u][/url] as well, but there was no spacing, so bigs [I]still had help[/I] after getting beat on the perimeter.. But more importantly, [i]in non-screen-roll situations, the option was there NOT to shade and just camp under the rim instead[/i] - this was the most-used and preferable option.. Today's defenders don't have this more optimal option.
I wake up every day hoping someone will tell me.MJ is the goat so I don't forget.
Everybody knows about mike. I don't see the need to knob slob him every single day considering you'll never see him play again.
[QUOTE=3ball]you had to be tougher back then.. no time for patting on the back or cumbaya
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Oh shit nobody talks or makes mean faces today! So tough!
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it's just another distinction between the two... one shows fear.. hesitation..
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the other doesn't...
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[QUOTE=Paul George 24]james never 3 peat :banana:[/QUOTE]
But James stuck around tried for the 4 peat.
MJ quit the league 2x with a chance to 4 peat.
[QUOTE=Beastmode88][B]2 chances to repeat. 1 in 2011[/B] and 2nd one was in 2014. [B]failed horribly.[/B] :oldlol:[/QUOTE]
Yes you did.
How does one fail to repeat when they didn't win the title the year before??