Accomplishments Thru 29 Years Old: MJ vs. Lebron

[QUOTE=sportjames23]LOL, right?

If Pax missed that shot, we still had Game 7. If Ray Ray missed that shot, Lebron is 1/4 (at that point, 1/5 if everything played out as it did the next season) in the Finals.

I would say I can't believe Roundball would use that scenario, but then again we ARE talking about Roundball. :oldlol:[/QUOTE]

Roundball grasping at anything he can right now. :lol



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[QUOTE=SamuraiSWISH]You serious, dude? Paxson was poised, and wide open due to the attention on MJ from full court. Horace made a nice pass.[/QUOTE]

:lol at crediting MJ. Pippen drew 3 defenders as he drove the lane and he passed to Grant who then passed to a wide open Paxson. MJ was on the periphery after he brought the ball up.

Game 7 would have been in Phoenix btw.

[QUOTE=Roundball_Rock]:lol at crediting MJ. Pippen drew 3 defenders as he drove the lane and he passed to Grant who then passed to a wide open Paxson. MJ was on the periphery after he brought the ball up.[/QUOTE]
Paxson's 3-pointer in Game 6 of the 1993 Finals was the first points scored by anyone other than Jordan in the entire fourth quarter, as the announcer notes..

[url]https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=WE3aiztuECY&t=3m51s[/url]


MJ is the only player in history required to score every point in the 4th quarter for his team in the Finals, and it was quite standard for him:

It was part of Phil Jackson's everyday gameplan to have MJ's teammates leave him all alone down the stretch of games, so he can do everything by himself:

[url]https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=nOgJhzj4W9M&t=30m20s[/url]

[i]"Don't leave Michael all alone here. It's not TIME yet[/I]."

[QUOTE=3ball]Paxson's 3-pointer in Game 6 of the 1993 Finals was the first points scored by anyone other than Jordan in the entire fourth quarter, as the announcer notes..

[url]https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=WE3aiztuECY&t=3m51s[/url]


MJ is the only player in history required to score every point in the 4th quarter for his team in the Finals, and it was quite standard for him:

It was part of Phil Jackson's everyday gameplan to have MJ's teammates leave him all alone down the stretch of games, so he can do everything by himself:

[url]https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=nOgJhzj4W9M&t=30m20s[/url]

[i]"Don't leave Michael all alone here. It's not TIME yet[/I]."[/QUOTE]

Poetry in motion. So goooooood!

[QUOTE=Roundball_Rock]:lol at crediting MJ.
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WTF you talking about ... Phoenix had KJ on MJ FULL COURT because of what he had just done going the length of the court on prior possessions off the dribble.

MJ was the only one besides that Paxson jumper to score for Chicago in the 4th. Why wouldn't he be getting credit? All eyes were on him due to being historically clutch, and 4th quarter dominant.

Pippen only had 1 guy run at him on the play, and he got the step on him. Now I know you're making stuff up.

[quote=Roundball_Rock]Game 7 would have been in Phoenix btw.[/quote]
And? Bulls won game 1, and game 2 there.

You seriously going full retard again trying to compare the context of Ray Allen's ridiculous miracle corner 3 off a loose ball to save Miami from losing AGAIN as favorites in the Finals to John Paxson making a wide open jumper to win the series in 6?

Um, ok.

Obviously you have never watched the play. :oldlol:

[QUOTE=Roundball_Rock]Obviously you have never watched the play. :oldlol:[/QUOTE]
Jordan had KJ on him full court. Passed to Pippen at top of the arc, Pippen immedietly drove by 1 player who popped out on him. I think it was Dumas IIRC, and then Scottie didn't even make a play to score he immedietly passed to Horace who also had a man on him ... who then finds wide open Paxson behind him.

Way to dodge what I asked.

Are you seriously comparing that Paxson shot, it's difficult, it's context to Ray Allen's proclaimed miracle series saving shot in game 6 for Miami?

[QUOTE]Jordan had KJ on him full court. Passed to Pippen at top of the arc, Pippen immedietly drove by 1 player who popped out on him. I think it was Dumas IIRC, and then Scottie didn't even make a play to score he immedietly passed to Horace who also had a man on him ... who then finds wide open Paxson behind him.[/QUOTE]

Watch it again. Pippen got past his defender--and then drew 2 more as he drove the lane. That left Grant open, who he passed to. Grant, struggling that night, then passed to a wide open Paxson. Paxson's man left to chase Pippen and then Grant. MJ is somewhere in the back of the frame.

Of course a shot in Game 6 when a team is up 3-2 is not the same as a shot when the team is down 3-2.

[QUOTE=Roundball_Rock]Watch it again. Pippen got past his defender--and then drew 2 more as he drove the lane.[/quote]
Yea they collapsed on him. You made it sound as if they sent 3 dudes at Pippen out the gates. It's a horse of a different color. Pippen probably could have made a play at the rim too.

[quote=Roundball_Rock]Of course a shot in Game 6 when a team is up 3-2 is not the same as a shot when the team is down 3-2.[/QUOTE]
You were making the comparison, bro ... WTF

Yeah but the point is the key to the play was not hordes of defensive attention on MJ. MJ was single covered. Pippen is the one who got Paxson free and Grant made the smart extra pass.

What I said was Paxson's shot was "lucky" like Allen's was "lucky." "Luck"--or in this case clutch plays--are simply a part of sports. Look at this year's SB but you don't see football fans saying idiotic things like the guy who made the INT "saved" Tom Brady. :lol

[QUOTE=Roundball_Rock]Yeah but the point is the key to the play was not hordes of defensive attention on MJ.[/quote]
From full court ... they didn't want him getting a head of steam. He was the only one who scored the entire quarter for the Bulls.

[quote=Roundball_Rock]MJ was single covered. Pippen is the one who got Paxson free and Grant made the smart extra pass.[/quote]
Yes, he beat one man off the triple threat. He didn't have 3x dudes on him as you made it sound.

[quote=Roundball_Rock]What I said was Paxson's shot was "lucky" like Allen's was "lucky."[/quote]
What? You still can't be serious.

How many times is this comparison going to repeat itself? Just watch the balding man play and enjoy his greatness. Compare after.

Yeah but it was Pip who caused Paxson to get open, not MJ as you claimed.

"Luck" is part of sports. Allen was not luck. Paxson was not luck. They were clutch. People act as if those guys made a fluke half court shot or something. The Super Bowl was not "luck"--the guy made a great play for the INT after a dumb call by SEA.

[QUOTE=Roundball_Rock]Yeah but it was Pip who caused Paxson to get open, not MJ as you claimed.

"Luck" is part of sports. Allen was not luck. Paxson was not luck. They were clutch. People act as if those guys made a fluke half court shot or something. The Super Bowl was not "luck"--the guy made a great play for the INT after a dumb call by SEA.[/QUOTE]


You can't compare the "luck" of a controlled play to the "luck" of a last second offensive rebound and kickout.

If lebron had passed to Wade who passed to ray Allen who hit the game tying shot in wouldn't be considered as lucky because it was controlled throughout.. credit is given to the team for that. lebron bricked the game tying shot and was lucky bosh was in the perfect place for the rebound with Ray Allen directly behind him.. it was a crazy unpredictable turn of events. And it was a series and legacy saving shot..

[QUOTE=K Xerxes]How many times is this comparison going to repeat itself? Just watch the balding man play and enjoy his greatness. Compare after.[/QUOTE]
:applause:

So many people have wasted so much breath, especially the past couple days it seems.