Distance traveled per 48 minutes - Lebron's is a league-bottom 3.0 miles

[QUOTE=SexSymbol]3ball's MJ obsession sometimes overshadow his very good thread ideas.
And this is a very good thread idea with perfect execution.
Facts, no biases, just straight up murdering fools.
You should always be like this, friend[/QUOTE]

Because he hasn't yet posted "The Turn". He's waiting for more replies until he pops out how MJ ran more than soccer players.

I am amazed that people still read this retard's threads. Distance traveled per 48 minutes? What in the f[COLOR="Black"]u[/COLOR]ck?

[QUOTE=red1]I am amazed that people still read this retard's threads. Distance traveled per 48 minutes? What in the f[COLOR="Black"]u[/COLOR]ck?[/QUOTE]
It's a statistical fact that ball-dominators [url=http://www.insidehoops.com/forum/showthread.php?t=385794]travel the shortest distances[/url] during games - about 20% less than off-ball players, about a 1/2 mile - so don't act like "Lebron has to handle to ball so much", as if it's an extra burden.

In Lebron's case, his low-assisted, ball-dominance comes from the forward position, so it's in ADDITION to the point guard - he turns a normally high-assisted, frontcourt position into a low-assisted, ball-dominant position.. This extra position of low-assisted, ball-dominance that he adds to all his teams lowers his team's [url=http://www.insidehoops.com/forum/showthread.php?t=385446]assist frequency[/url] relative to his peers.

Furthermore, the extra position of low-assisted, ball-dominance that Lebron adds to every team eliminates any chance of his teams running an equal-opportunity offense or the playing best brand of basketball, which allows equal or less-talented teams to pull upsets by playing a [I]better[/I] brand of basketball (2009, 2011, 2014)..

Ultimately, it takes more ability to achieve great stats within an equal-opportunity, winning framework, than the grade school-level, clearout/playground style that ball-dominators like Lebron need to put up numbers.
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[QUOTE=ClipperRevival]


Makes me wonder if you even watched Bron prior to the 2015 finals. For most of his career, he played more like Magic than a ball dominator. [B][SIZE="3"]He almost always tried to make the right basketball play and was seen as too unselfish. [/SIZE][/B]Yes, he ran isos when needed but that wasn't his fortay. He enjoyed playing unselfish basketball.


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[I]The issue is that Lebron's ball-dominance doesn't allow his teams to run equal-opportunity offenses[/I].. Since his ball-dominance prevents equal-opportunity, opponents can overcome lesser talent by playing equal opportunity themselves - essentially, since his ball-dominance doesn't allow the best brand of basketball, equal or less-talented teams can pull upsets by playing a better brand of basketball (2009, 2011, 2014).

Otoh, MJ's highly-assisted, off-ball game increased the assist capacity of the team and allowed the team to employ the best brand of basketball (equal-opportunity) - by playing the best brand of basketball possible, MJ's teams weren't susceptible to less talented opponents pulling upsets by playing a better brand of basketball.. MJ's teams never got beat by equal or less talented teams.. Ever.

Furthermore, it takes more ability to achieve all-time stats within an equal-opportunity, winning framework, than the grade school-level, clearout/playground style that ball-dominators like Lebron need to put up numbers.

my KINGs league-bottom may be 3.0 miles, but he surely did travel them

#kang

[QUOTE=3ball][I]The issue is that Lebron's ball-dominance doesn't allow his teams to run equal-opportunity offenses[/I].. Since his ball-dominance prevents equal-opportunity, opponents can overcome lesser talent by playing equal opportunity themselves - essentially, since his ball-dominance doesn't allow the best brand of basketball, equal or less-talented teams can pull upsets by playing a better brand of basketball (2009, 2011, 2014).

Otoh, MJ's highly-assisted, off-ball game increased the assist capacity of the team and allowed the team to employ the best brand of basketball (equal-opportunity) - by playing the best brand of basketball possible, MJ's teams weren't susceptible to less talented opponents pulling upsets by playing a better brand of basketball.. MJ's teams never got beat by equal or less talented teams.. Ever.

Furthermore, it takes more ability to achieve all-time stats within an equal-opportunity, winning framework, than the grade school-level, clearout/playground style that ball-dominators like Lebron need to put up numbers.[/QUOTE]

Lol. Why are you copying and pasting the same thing? How about you read my thread and respond with something constructive instead of copying and pasting the same thing?

As clinically insane as 3ball is with his persistent MJ agenda threads day in day out, he does make some unique and often valid claims that no one really challenges all that well.

He is a one man wrecking machine, get out of his way. :oldlol:

[QUOTE=ClipperRevival]

His numbers from 2008-2013 (6 years) [B][SIZE="3"][COLOR="Red"]is matched[/COLOR][/SIZE][/B] by only 1 other perimeter player and that's MJ. 6 straight seasons leading in PER with a whooping 30.2 and giving you 28.2 ppg on only 19.6 fga while shooting .511%.

I am an MJ fan like you but when you continue to unfairly bash Bron, I have to call you for it.

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MJ only "[I]matched[/I]" Lebron's best??.. "Superceded" is a better description of what happened:

[B]Regular season:[/B]

[I]MJ 87'-93'[/I]:[COLOR="White"].[/COLOR] 33.4 ppg.. 1.7 oreb.. 4.7 dreb.. 6.0 apg.. 2.9 tov.. 121 ORtg.. 30.4 PER
[I]LBJ 08'-13'[/I]: 28.2 ppg.. 1.3 oreb.. 6.4 dreb.. 7.3 apg.. 3.3 tov.. 120 ORtg.. 30.2 PER

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[QUOTE=3ball]MJ only "[I]matched[/I]" Lebron's best??.. "Superceded" is a better description of what happened:


[I]MJ 87'-93'[/I]:[COLOR="White"].[/COLOR] 33.4 ppg.. 1.7 oreb.. 4.7 dreb.. 6.0 apg.. 2.9 tov.. 121 ORtg.. 30.4 PER
[I]LBJ 08'-13'[/I]: 28.2 ppg.. 1.3 oreb.. 6.4 dreb.. 7.3 apg.. 3.3 tov.. 120 ORtg.. 30.2 PER

MJ Reg. Season Per Game: [url]http://www.basketball-reference.com/players/j/jordami01.html#1987-1993-sum:per_game[/url]
MJ Advanced: [url]http://www.basketball-reference.com/players/j/jordami01.html#1987-1993-sum:advanced[/url]

Lebron RS Per Game: [url]http://www.basketball-reference.com/players/j/jamesle01.html#2008-2013-sum:per_game[/url]
Lebron Advanced: [url]http://www.basketball-reference.com/players/j/jamesle01.html#2008-2013-sum:advanced[/url][/QUOTE]

MJ is the GOAT for a reason but even you have to admit that's a hell of a 6 year run. MJ type dominance in the efficiency department.

[QUOTE=ClipperRevival]MJ is the GOAT for a reason but even you have to admit that's a hell of a 6 year run. MJ type dominance in the efficiency department.[/QUOTE]
[B]Playoffs Per 100 Possessions:[/B]

[I]MJ 88'-93'[/I]:[COLOR="White"].[/COLOR] 44.2 pts.. [COLOR="White"].[/COLOR]8.6 rebs..[COLOR="White"].[/COLOR] 8.5 ast.. 4.2 tov.. 120 ORtg
[I]LBJ 08'-13'[/I]: 36.6 pts.. 11.3 rebs.. 8.5 ast.. 4.3 tov.. 117 ORtg


And again, it takes more ability to achieve all-time stats within an equal-opportunity, winning framework, than the grade school-level, clearout/playground style that ball-dominators like Lebron need to get their numbers.

Also, it's a statistical fact that Lebron's isolation ability is far below-average - so given MJ's goat isolation ability, we can assume he would've done much better in the same clearout spots that Lebron got in the 2015 Finals.. This is especially true since MJ shot 50% against packed strongsides and paints, so he would run roughshod when he saw the wide open strongside afforded by today's weakside spacing.

[QUOTE=poido123]As clinically insane as 3ball is with his persistent MJ agenda threads day in day out, he does make some unique and often valid claims that no one really challenges all that well.

He is a one man wrecking machine, get out of his way. :oldlol:[/QUOTE]
until you actually read the posts...

[QUOTE=poido123]As clinically insane as 3ball is with his persistent MJ agenda threads day in day out, he does make some unique and often valid claims that no one really challenges all that well.

He is a one man wrecking machine, get out of his way. :oldlol:[/QUOTE]
Random contextless BS is what it is.


@3ball, [url]http://www.insidehoops.com/forum/showpost.php?p=11695332&postcount=37[/url]

Wait...why should we care about this?...

[QUOTE=Mr. Jabbar]my KINGs league-bottom may be 3.0 miles, but he surely did travel them

#kang[/QUOTE]

Yawn...you're not funny. Stop trying so hard all the time.

3ball, could you post the stats for how many accounts you've had banned with this shtick?