Lebron craters the apg and assist % of his teammates

[QUOTE=Hey Yo]

[url]http://www.merriam-webster.com/dictionary/significant[/url]

Significant:

[I]large enough to be noticed or have an effect[/I]

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Wade's assists declined 35% alongside Lebron.

Mo Williams' assists declined 40% alongside Lebron.

Bosh's assists declined 25% alongside Lebron and Love's declined 12%.

Kyrie's assists declined 12% alongside Lebron.


[I]EVERYONE'S assists declined alongside Lebron, and of these differences would be defined as "significant"... Otoh, Pippen's assists INCREASED 20% alongside Jordan.[/I]

[QUOTE=3ball]Better teammates?... Wade > Pippen.... and Bosh/Love/Kyrie are better than any other teammate MJ ever had.

Your response makes no sense and doesn't refute the statistical reality that:

1) Lebron significantly reduces the assists of teammates (Wade/Bosh/Love/Mo/Kyrie)
2) All of his teams for his entire 11-year career had very low assist frequency.
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Reading comprehension fail. Wow.

[QUOTE=3ball]Wade's assists declined 35% alongside Lebron.

Mo Williams' assists declined 40% alongside Lebron.

Bosh's assists declined[B] 25%[/B] alongside Lebron and Love's declined [B]12%[/B].

Kyrie's assists declined [B]12%[/B] alongside Lebron.


[I]EVERYONE'S assists declined alongside Lebron, and of [B]these differences would be defined as "significant"...[/B] Otoh, Pippen's assists INCREASED 20% alongside Jordan.[/I][/QUOTE]
Bosh, Love and Kyrie is significant?

Significant:

[I]large enough to be noticed or have an effect[/I]

Thanks for the :oldlol: and keep reachin, yo.

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[COLOR="darkRed"][B]Here's Lebron's effective FG% on all [I]"jumpshots"[/I] and [I]"midrange"[/I] from stats.nba.com (midrange is defined as all shots inside 3-point line but outside paint):[/B][/COLOR]


[COLOR="White"].................[/COLOR][U]eFG% All Jumpshots[/U][COLOR="White"]..................[/COLOR] [U]Midrange[/U]

[url=http://stats.nba.com/player/#!/2544/stats/shooting/?Season=2003-04&SeasonType=Regular%20Season]Lebron 2004[/url]: 35.6%, 324/998............ 33.2%, 183/551
[url=http://stats.nba.com/player/#!/2544/stats/shooting/?Season=2004-05&SeasonType=Regular%20Season]Lebron 2005[/url]: 39.9%, 400/1136.......... 36.0%, 217/602
[url=http://stats.nba.com/player/#!/2544/stats/shooting/?Season=2005-06&SeasonType=Regular%20Season]Lebron 2006[/url]: 41.7%, 423/1166.......... 38.4%, 242/630
[url=http://stats.nba.com/player/#!/2544/stats/shooting/?Season=2006-07&SeasonType=Regular%20Season]Lebron 2007[/url]: 39.5%, 372/1066.......... 35.1%, 204/581
[url=http://stats.nba.com/player/#!/2544/stats/shooting/?Season=2007-08&SeasonType=Regular%20Season]Lebron 2008[/url]: 39.4%, 338/1001.......... 36.4%, 185/508
[url=http://stats.nba.com/player/#!/2544/stats/shooting/?Season=2008-09&SeasonType=Regular%20Season]Lebron 2009[/url]: 42.2%, 366/1024.......... 36.8%, 193/525
[url=http://stats.nba.com/player/#!/2544/stats/shooting/?Season=2009-10&SeasonType=Regular%20Season]Lebron 2010[/url]: 43.4%, 356/970............ 38.8%, 188/444
[url=http://stats.nba.com/player/#!/2544/stats/shooting/?Season=2010-11&SeasonType=Regular%20Season]Lebron 2011[/url]: 45.4%, 393/968............ 44.6%, 217/487
[url=http://stats.nba.com/player/#!/2544/stats/shooting/?Season=2011-12&SeasonType=Regular%20Season]Lebron 2012[/url]: 43.7%, 290/726............ 42.3%, 188/444
[url=http://stats.nba.com/player/#!/2544/stats/shooting/?Season=2012-13&SeasonType=Regular%20Season]Lebron 2013[/url]: 49.0%, 333/784............ 43.2%, 174/403
[url=http://stats.nba.com/player/#!/2544/stats/shooting/?Season=2013-14&SeasonType=Regular%20Season]Lebron 2014[/url]: 47.0%, 288/736............ 38.5%, 126/327
[url=http://stats.nba.com/player/#!/2544/stats/shooting/?Season=2014-15&SeasonType=Regular%20Season]Lebron 2015[/url]: 43.1%, 280/788............ 37.0%, 127/343
[url=http://stats.nba.com/player/#!/2544/stats/shooting/?Season=2015-16&SeasonType=Regular%20Season]Lebron 2016[/url]: 39.0%, 181/543............ 37.1%, 96/259

[url=http://stats.nba.com/player/#!/893/stats/shooting/?Season=1996-97&SeasonType=Regular%20Season]Jordan 1997[/url]: 51.2%, 727/1528........... 48.9%, 588/1202

[url=http://stats.nba.com/player/#!/201939/stats/shooting/?Season=2014-15&SeasonType=Regular%20Season]Currry 2015[/Url]: 56.0%, 424/1029........... 41.1%, 117/285
[url=http://stats.nba.com/player/#!/201939/stats/shooting/?Season=2015-16&SeasonType=Regular%20Season]Currry 2016[/url]: 62.9%, 389/847............. 45.3%, 67/148

[B]As you can see, Lebron's jumpshooting has been near the bottom of the league for nearly his ENTIRE CAREER - otoh, Kobe's jumpshooting was never considered among the league's worst.[/B]
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[QUOTE=Hey Yo]

Thanks for the keep reaching

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Lebron's teams are a lot like the Team USA squads he played for in 2004 and 2006 that lost 5 times to international teams with FAR less talent - the USA played such a vastly inferior brand of basketball at the time, that it more than offset their massive talent advantage..

This is the same as Lebron's NBA teams - his ball-dominant presence reduces the assist rate of his teammates and teams, while also preventing equal-opportunity and the best brand of basketball.. Since Lebron prevents his teams from playing the best brand of basketball, his teams are upset by equal or less-talented opponents that play a [I]better[/I] brand of basketball (2009, 2011, 2014), just like many international teams upset the US in the mid-2000's Olympics.
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Significant :oldlol:

[QUOTE=3ball]

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Lebron's teams are a lot like the Team USA squads he played for in 2004 and 2006 that lost 5 times to international teams with FAR less talent - the USA played such a vastly inferior brand of basketball at the time, that it more than offset their massive talent advantage..

This is the same as Lebron's NBA teams - his ball-dominant presence reduces the assist rate of his teammates and teams, while also preventing equal-opportunity and the best brand of basketball.. Since Lebron prevents his teams from playing the best brand of basketball, his teams are upset by equal or less-talented opponents that play a [I]better[/I] brand of basketball (2009, 2011, 2014), just like many international teams upset the US in the mid-2000's Olympics.

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[i][COLOR="Navy"]When Lebron's reduces the assist rate of his teammates and team, the team plays a worse brand of basketball and loses to a far less talented team:[/COLOR]
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This is what happens when you quit the NBA to try to become the next Bo Jackson


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[QUOTE=3ball][IMG]http://i.imgur.com/inBAcvB.gif[/IMG]


Lebron's teams are a lot like the Team USA squads he played for in 2004 and 2006 that lost 5 times to international teams with FAR less talent - the USA played such a vastly inferior brand of basketball at the time, that it more than offset their massive talent advantage..

This is the same as Lebron's NBA teams - his ball-dominant presence reduces the assist rate of his teammates and teams, while also preventing equal-opportunity and the best brand of basketball.. Since Lebron prevents his teams from playing the best brand of basketball, his teams are upset by equal or less-talented opponents that play a [I]better[/I] brand of basketball (2009, 2011, 2014), just like many international teams upset the US in the mid-2000's Olympics.
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Burned.

This is the reason why bran has to collude. Coz he cant win with equal supporting casts

So, since we're on a similar subject....why not tell everyone what effect Mj presence or absence has on his teammates' ppg and usage rates? I'm sure you did all your homework 1st since you're such a great scientist.:applause:

[QUOTE=3ball].
[COLOR="Blue"][SIZE="2"][B]Since Lebron significantly lowers the APG and assist % of his teammates:[/B][/SIZE][/COLOR]


[COLOR="Green"]Wade apg and assist % before Lebron (04'-10'): [url=http://www.basketball-reference.com/players/w/wadedw01.html#2004-2010-sum:per_game]6.6[/url], [url=http://www.basketball-reference.com/players/w/wadedw01.html#2004-2010-sum:advanced]34.8%[/url] [/COLOR]
[COLOR="Red"]Wade apg and assist % with[COLOR="White"]...[/COLOR] Lebron (11'-14'): [url=http://www.basketball-reference.com/players/w/wadedw01.html#2011-2014-sum:per_game]4.7[/url], [url=http://www.basketball-reference.com/players/w/wadedw01.html#2011-2014-sum:advanced]25.5%[/url] [/COLOR]


[COLOR="Green"]Bosh apg and assist % before Lebron (04'-10'): 2.2, 10.5%[/COLOR]
[COLOR="Red"]Bosh apg and assist % with[COLOR="White"]...[/COLOR] Lebron (11'-14'): [url=http://www.basketball-reference.com/players/b/boshch01.html#2011-2014-sum:per_game]1.6[/url], [COLOR="White"].[/COLOR][url=http://www.basketball-reference.com/players/b/boshch01.html#2011-2014-sum:advanced]8.0%[/url] [/COLOR]

[COLOR="Green"]Irving apg and assist % before Lebron (12'-14'): [url=http://www.basketball-reference.com/players/i/irvinky01.html#2012-2014-sum:per_game]5.8[/url], [url=http://www.basketball-reference.com/players/i/irvinky01.html#2012-2014-sum:advanced]33.2[/url][/COLOR]
[COLOR="Red"]Irving apg and assist % with[COLOR="White"]...[/COLOR] Lebron (2015):[COLOR="White"]...[/COLOR] 5.2, 25.0%[/COLOR]


[COLOR="Green"]Kevin Love apg and assist % in MIN: 2.5, 13.0%[/COLOR]
[COLOR="Red"]Kevin Love apg and assist % in CLE:[COLOR="White"].[/COLOR] 2.2, 10.7%[/COLOR]

[COLOR="Green"]Mo Williams apg and assist % before Lebron: 6.3, 30.0%[/COLOR]
[COLOR="Red"]Mo Williams apg and assist % with[COLOR="White"]...[/COLOR] Lebron: 4.1, 20.1%[/COLOR]



[COLOR="Blue"][SIZE="2"][B]Naturally, Lebron's all of TEAMS have low assist rates relative to the competition:[/B][/SIZE][/COLOR]


[I]POSSESSIONS PER ASSIST (HIGHER NUMBER MEANS LESS PASSING)[/I]


[I]2015 Cavs[/I]: 92.3/22.1 = [COLOR="red"]4.18[/COLOR]
[I]2014 Heat[/I]: 91.2/22.5 = [COLOR="Red"]4.05[/COLOR]
[I]2013 Heat[/I]: 90.7/23.0 = [COLOR="Red"]3.94[/COLOR]
[I]2012 Heat[/I]: 91.2/20.0 = [COLOR="Red"]4.56[/COLOR]
[I]2011 Heat[/I]: 90.9/20.0 = [COLOR="red"]4.55[/COLOR]
[I]2010 Cavs[/I]: 91.4/22.4 = [COLOR="Red"]4.08[/COLOR]
[I]2009 Cavs[/I]: 88.7/20.3 = [COLOR="Red"]4.37[/COLOR]
[I]2008 Cavs[/I]: 90.2/20.0 = [COLOR="Red"]4.51[/COLOR]
[I]2007 Cavs[/I]: 90.8/20.8 = [COLOR="Red"]4.37[/COLOR]
[I]2006 Cavs[/I]: 89.8/19.0 = [COLOR="Red"]4.72[/COLOR]


[I]1998 Bulls[/I]: 89.0/23.8 = [COLOR="Blue"]3.74[/COLOR]
[I]1997 Bulls[/I]: 90.0/26.1 = [COLOR="Blue"]3.45[/COLOR]
[I]1996 Bulls[/I]: 91.1/24.8 = [COLOR="Blue"]3.67[/COLOR]
[I]1993 Bulls[/I]: 92.5/26.0 = [COLOR="Blue"]3.56[/COLOR]
[I]1992 Bulls[/I]: 94.4/27.8 = [COLOR="Blue"]3.40[/COLOR]
[I]1991 Bulls[/I]: 95.6/27.0 = [COLOR="Blue"]3.54[/COLOR]
[I]1990 Bulls[/I]: 96.7/26.5 = [COLOR="Blue"]3.65[/COLOR]
[I]1989 Bulls[/I]: 97.0/27.0 = [COLOR="Blue"]3.59[/COLOR]
[I]1988 Bulls[/I]: 95.5/26.2 = [COLOR="Blue"]3.65[/COLOR]
[I]1987 Bulls[/I]: 95.8/26.1 = [COLOR="Blue"]3.67[/COLOR]
[I]1985 Bulls[/I]: 99.4/24.3 = [COLOR="Blue"]4.09[/COLOR]


[I]2015 GSW[/I]:[COLOR="White"]..[/COLOR] 98.3/27.4 = [COLOR="Magenta"]3.59[/COLOR]
[I]2014 Spurs[/I]:[COLOR="White"].[/COLOR] 95.0/25.2 = [COLOR="Magenta"]3.77[/COLOR]
[I]2011 Mavs[/I]:[COLOR="White"]..[/COLOR] 91.3/23.8 = [COLOR="Magenta"]3.84[/COLOR]
[I]2007 Spurs[/I]:[COLOR="White"].[/COLOR] 89.8/22.1 = [COLOR="Magenta"]4.06[/COLOR]

[I]1987 Lakers[/I]: 101.6/29.6 = [COLOR="darkgreen"]3.43[/COLOR]
[I]1986 Celtics[/I]: 102.1/29.1 = [COLOR="darkgreen"]3.47[/COLOR]

[I]Source: basketball-reference.com[/I]


Lebron's presence [I]significantly[/I] lowered the APG and assist percentage of Dwayne Wade, Kyrie Irving, Mo Williams, Kevin Love and Chris Bosh - these guys went from playmakers that generated action and got assists, to play-finishers that didn't make plays or get assists - this is a statistical fact.. Their lower assist rates explains why Lebron's TEAMS have always had very low assist frequency (shown above).

The statistical reality is that Lebron's presence as an additional, low-assisted ball-dominator (in addition to the PG) creates an inequitable distribution of playmaking that prevents the kind of equal-opportunity offenses that all the great teams use (90's Bulls, Spurs, Kerr's Warriors)... Since Lebron's ball-dominance prevents his teams from playing the best brand of basketball, equal or less-talented opponents are able to pull upsets by playing a better brand of basketball (2009, 2011, 2014)..

Otoh, MJ's off-ball game allowed his teams to play an equal-opportunity offense and the best brand of basketball, which meant that equal or less-talented opponents could never pull upsets by playing a better brand of basketball - MJ's teams were never upset by equal or lesser talented teams.. Btw, it takes more ability to achieve great stats within an equal-opportunity, winning framework, than the grade school-level, clearout/playground style that ball-dominators like Lebron need to get their numbers.
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[url]https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=4bijbF3gkNk[/url]

Who cares about teammates? The only thing that matters:

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:kobe:

Perhaps the NBA's plan to manufacture a fraudulent superstar is starting to backfire

I've never seen a supposed all time great so ridiculed and disrespected in their prime :roll:

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[B][COLOR="Red"]HERE'S WHY MJ WINS 2014 FINALS[/COLOR][/B]


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[B]Dallas and OKC hold Kawhi to 12 ppg on ~45%[/B]

[INDENT][I][COLOR="navy"]Result: competitive series[/COLOR][/I][/INDENT]


[B]Portland and Heat let Kawhi score 18 ppg on ~57%[/B]

[INDENT][I][COLOR="Navy"]Result: Massacre [/COLOR][/I][/INDENT]


If Lebron could've held role player Kawhi to 12 ppg on sub-40% like DAL and OKC did, instead of letting him be > Duncan, the series would've been competitive, just like DAL and OKC... In addition to the better defense, if Lebron adds the offensive aggression[I][COLOR="Navy"]AS WELL[/COLOR][/I] by doubling his shot attempts like he did in 2015 Finals (which won 2 games with worse supporting cast against better team), the Heat WIN.

MJ would've done both of these things - he never let Byron Russell be better than Karl Malone.. If he had, the Bulls would've been blown away as well.. And he would've been far more aggressive offensively - the combination of Jordan's superior play on BOTH sides of the ball would've led the Heat to victory.. Oh, and Jordan would never get carried off the floor in Game 1 - it's kind of hard to hold teammates accountable on both sides of the ball after that.

But most importantly, the entire Heat TEAM would've been playing a different and superior brand of basketball all year long, because MJ was an off-ball player like Curry, not a ball-dominator that diminishes teammates like Lebron... And the team would've had more heart to continue persevering past the midpoint in Game 3, when the Heat simply GAVE UP.