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[QUOTE=3ball]No other team had 3-peat chemistry, teamwork and system - if they did, they would win 55 games with marginal talent too..
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That s an assumption, i talk only facts.
Jordan 1-9 without Pippen.
Pippen won 55 games without Jordan.
No other superstar in their prime had a team that won 55 games without him.
Jordan had the most stacked team of all-time....
[QUOTE=3ball][B]The [url=https://espnfivethirtyeight.files.wordpress.com/2015/05/paine-datalab-lebron-cast-2.png]538 rankings[/url] show that MJ's 1991 and 1993 casts rank far lower than Lebron's 2012 and 2013 casts, which means MJ won with less than Lebron won with... MJ was capable of winning with less..
[I][COLOR="DarkRed"]Could MJ have won with Lebron's 2007 or 2015 casts?[/COLOR][/I]... Probably, since he would've scored a lot more and he would've shot much better than 35% and 39%, respectively..[/B].[/QUOTE]
False.
[IMG]https://espnfivethirtyeight.files.wordpress.com/2015/05/paine-datalab-lebron-cast-2.png[/IMG]
[COLOR="White"]this is getting so easy[/COLOR][/QUOTE]
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[QUOTE=livinglegend]
No other superstar in their prime had a team that could win 55 games without him.
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No other team had 3-peat chemistry, teamwork and system - if they did, they would win 55 games with marginal talent too..
But the Bulls were exposed in the playoffs - 3-peat chemistry could only get them to the 2nd Round - they simply lacked talent.
Furthermore, the 94' Bulls weren't going to rebound from their 2nd Round defeat and do better the next year - they were a 2nd Round team PERMANENTLY without Jordan, after being a 3-peat dynasty with him.
[COLOR="Navy"][I]Now if we were running an experiment to see if MJ's impact was [U]truly[/U] 3-peat to 2nd Round, we would have him come back and see if he could 3-peat again.... VIOLA!!!!... Done and done.. Confirmed 2nd Round to 3-peat impact...[/I][/COLOR]
[QUOTE=livinglegend]
False, they are near the top.
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[B]The [url=https://espnfivethirtyeight.files.wordpress.com/2015/05/paine-datalab-lebron-cast-2.png]538 rankings[/url] show that MJ's 1991 and 1993 casts rank far lower than Lebron's 2012 and 2013 casts, which means MJ won with less than Lebron won with... MJ was capable of winning with less..
[I][COLOR="DarkRed"]Could MJ have won with Lebron's 2007 or 2015 casts?[/COLOR][/I]... Probably, since he would've scored a lot more and he would've shot much better than 35% and 39%, respectively...[/B]
[QUOTE=livinglegend]False.
[IMG]https://espnfivethirtyeight.files.wordpress.com/2015/05/paine-datalab-lebron-cast-2.png[/IMG]
[COLOR="White"]this is getting so easy[/COLOR][/QUOTE]
This isn't surprising that Jordan's teammates had the best +/- ratings. No one made his team mates better than Jordan did, boosting their +/- ratings through the roof. We see similar with Steph Curry and Draymond Green, Draymond Green is a hustle man defender yet his +/- gets astronomically boosted from playing with Curry.
So you can't use a stat to gauge Jordan's teammates when the stat is getting directly influenced by Jordan at the same time. It's circular reasoning that doesn't make sense.