Chamberlain with 21 KNOWN Playoff Triple Doubles

[QUOTE=ClipperRevival]Wilt lost the NCAA championship game. Why? Because he was so good, the team just tried to get him the ball. What did their opponents do? Swarm him and force others to beat them. [B]A great player attracts the attention and sets others guys up, not try to play 1 on 3.[/B] [/QUOTE]

I supposed he did exaclty that - he shot only 13 times (6-13), while his teamates combine shot 9-34. I think the full game is on youtube.

[QUOTE=ClipperRevival] On the flip side, Russell went to a school (University of SF) that hadn't done NOTHING prior to him going there and won 2 NCAA titles. Coincidence? Please. Russell played to win, not put up gaudy individual numbers which might not have been the best for the team. [/QUOTE]

Russell played to win in the way he is best at, by playing defense - he can't be the primary offensive weapon although his college stats are very impresive in that department. Still for me the GOAT college player is Lew Alcindor. Just as a note University of SF were 1949 champions, but it doesn't change anything.

[QUOTE=ClipperRevival] The same situation stood at the pro level. [B]Wilt was the superior individual talent but Russell was the better winner[/B]. In a vacuum, yes, Wilt was superior. He should be. He had 4-5 inches and 50-60 lbs on Russell. And you also factor in the mentality that both brought, [B]Wilt being somewhat aloof[/B] and not living bball day and night while Russell tried to get every advantage mentally and physically every time he stepped on the court. [/QUOTE]

I am glad you admitted it, but we all shall agree that both Russell and Wilt were not born the athletes they were - they worked to developed their abilities. If Chamberlain was stronger than his opponents and can ran faster, jump higher it is because of the work he put on, not that he was born like this. It is advantage he build in the gym and shall took credit for this, not just "he was taller and stronger and that's why he should dominate and win everything". Example - a lot of fans argued vs Shaq that he was just some big fat boy who could do only dunking and play 3 feet around the rim as if it is easy to have 7 foot 340 pounds body and do the stuff Shaq do. About Wilt bein aloof, what persons and teamates were Russell, Kareem ... MJ, Kobe ?

[QUOTE=ClipperRevival] [B]All this stuff matters. It's the little things that separate winners from losers[/B]. When you keep on posting individual stats without proper context, it does make me question if you ever played the game while ignoring the mental aspect of the game.[/QUOTE]

I am agree with that, especcially with the bolded part. The little things like teamates, coach, the system under which you are playing and so on. Basketball is team sport not one on one game. The teams won the chips, not the individual player. Russell was paid to defend the rim and Wilt was paid to score - that is what both players do. Russell could not outplay Wilt for a series, it was imposible. But his teams outplayed Wilt's most of the time - simple as that.

Bla bla bla excuses

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[QUOTE=feyki]Mel Counts > Wilt Chamberlain in 69 Finals .[/QUOTE]

Mel Counts is related to UFC Fighter Chael Sonnen.

That's more than his known Finals PPG :applause: :applause:

[QUOTE=feyki]Mel Counts > Wilt Chamberlain in 69 Finals .[/QUOTE]


Both Wilt and Russell were better than Mel Counts in 69. Russell averaged 19 reb a game at the tail end of his career.:oldlol: and Wilt avg 20 and 21 in 69. Way better than Counts.

[QUOTE=MiseryCityTexas]Both Wilt and Russell were better than Mel Counts in 69. Russell averaged 19 reb a game at the tail end of his career.:oldlol: and Wilt avg 20 and 21 in 69. Way better than Counts.[/QUOTE]

I was talking about Game 7 . If you want , watch 4th quarter of that game ; and come again .

nbastat.net has yet another 20+ point triple double...

Game seven of the '62 EDF's... 22-22- and 12 blocks.

Bringing his KNOWN total to [B]25[/B] playoff triple doubles.
:bowdown: :bowdown: :bowdown:

[QUOTE=LAZERUSS]nbastat.net has yet another 20+ point triple double...

Game seven of the '62 EDF's... 22-22- and 12 blocks.

Bringing his KNOWN total to [B]25[/B] playoff triple doubles.
:bowdown: :bowdown: :bowdown:[/QUOTE]
And THAT is something LeSHRIVEL will never pass.

[QUOTE=LAZERUSS]nbastat.net has yet another 20+ point triple double...

Game seven of the '62 EDF's... 22-22- and 12 blocks.

Bringing his KNOWN total to [B]25[/B] playoff triple doubles.
:bowdown: :bowdown: :bowdown:[/QUOTE]
Not surprised considering anyone can scribble out the scoresheet and change the numbers to whatever they want em' to say.

If they didn't want to scribble something out that was wrong, they just said F it cause that would look bad.


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[QUOTE=Hey Yo]Not surprised considering anyone can scribble out the scoresheet and change the numbers to whatever they want em' to say.

If they didn't want to scribble something out that was wrong, they just said F it cause that would look bad.


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Yep...you won't see that happen in today's NBA, right?

Like Shaq's 24-28-15 game...which was, in REALITY, a 24-21-8 game.

I didn't see a boxscore scribbled out and changed on Shaq's game.


Needless to say, today's stats are kept much tighter than they were back in the 60's. Barely any footage then to watch and challenge [I]alleged[/I] "official stats"

To be honest it would be nice if the authors on NBAstats.net kept more track of their sources. Saying "Long Beach Press-Telegram" isn't good enough. They really should have the issue and page number so other researchers can confirm it. I'm not saying this data isn't true just that it's hard to verify. And like a few people pointed out, many stats weren't even recorded and there are no tapes so even the published numbers of unofficial stats are iffy.

Anyways in the 1970 postseason he allegedly had four games of 10+ blocks which makes his [B]zero[/B] blocks and total defensive disappearance in Game 7 even more inexcusable. You can't blame injuries when he was crushing other opponents earlier in the same playoffs.

Lazeruss, did you check those nice stats they added for the '69 Finals? Wilt is thought as having averaged 7.7 blocks in his, oh, so "sucky" '69 series and around 8 during the whole postseason.

[QUOTE=Hey Yo]I didn't see a boxscore scribbled out and changed on Shaq's game.


Needless to say, today's stats are kept much tighter than they were back in the 60's. Barely any footage then to watch and challenge [I]alleged[/I] "official stats"[/QUOTE]

Correct. And knowing how people root against Goliath winning, maybe Wilt had 12 rings and multiple 100 point games after all.

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1. 3/22/62... 56 pts, 36 rebs, 12 blks Game 5 of 5 game series
2. 4/5/62... 22 pts, 22 rebs, 12 blks Game 7
3. 4/16/64... 39 pts, 30 rebs, 12 blks. Game 7
4. 3/26/65... 30 pts, 15 rebs, 10 asts
5. 3/31/65... 38 pts, 26 rebs, 10 blks Clincher
6. 4/4/65.... 33 pts, 31 rebs, 11 blks
7. 4/13/65... 30 pts, 26 rebs, 13 blks
8. 3/22/67... 37 pts, 27 rebs, 11 asts
9. 3/24/67... 16 pts, 30 rebs, 19 asts
10. 3/31/67... 24 pts, 32 rebs, 13 asts, 12 blks (quad-double)
11. 4/9/67.... 20 pts, 22 rebs, 10 asts
12. 4/11/67...29 pts, 36 rebs, 13 asts Clincher
13. 4/14/67... 16 pts, 33 rebs, 10 asts
14. 4/16/67... 10 pts, 38 rebs, 10 asts, 10 blks (quad-double)
15. 4/20/69... 16 pts, 29 rebs, 16 blks
16. 4/23/69... 15 pts, 23 rebs, 13 blks
17. 5/5/69... 18 pts, 27 rebs, 10 blks Game 7
18. 4/5/70.... 36 pts, 14 rebs, 10 blks
19. 4/7/70.... 12 pts, 26 rebs, 11 asts, 11 blks (quad-double)
20. 4/9/70.... 30 pts, 27 rebs, 12 blks Game 7
21. 4/19/70... 11 pts, 21 rebs, 10 blks Clincher
22. 3/30/71... 12 pts, 23 rebs, 10 blks
23. 4/22/72... 20 pts, 24 rebs, 10 blks Clincher (and against KAJ)
24. 5/7/72.... 24 pts, 29 rebs, 10 blks * (CavsFTW with 8) Clincher
25. 4/8/73... 11 pts, 30 rebs, 12 blks
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BTW, everyone acknowledges that Wilt's '69 post season was his worst, especially his Finals... BUT, thanks to the Long Beach Examiner and the LA Examiner...we now KNOW that Chamberlain blocked 150 shots in his 17 playoff games (8.8 bpg)...and in his Finals... 54 in 7 games (7.7 bpg.)