There have been 9 one term presidents in our countries history...

[QUOTE=Kblaze8855;14043172]Im talking about passion on each side. Trump voters will vote no matter what. Of course there are less of them....which is why their passion is relevant. There are more democrats in general...but Trump draws from a well of far more passionate support.[/quote]
Well theres no doubt that Joe Biden generates a ton of "passion" among his base :oldlol:

[quote]It matters when we are talking poll numbers and people being surprised democrats have good numbers. Polls dont need to be faked when you have a tangible advantage in numbers.[/quote]

Tell that to Hillary Clinton and her poll numbers (the person who created Trump, the preferred "pied piper" candidate according to her genius political instincts)

[quote]I doubt he has much in the way of new ideas or grand plans. Hes just there to not be trump which...might do it. Its obviously gonna be about building the next one up. But he cant really pick who most of us would want next and keep the electoral math right.[/QUOTE]

The fact that the democrats had 4 years to find a worthwhile candidate and ultimately settled on a senile segregationist and life-long status-quo politician who happens to be one of the most racist politicians this country has seen in recent years (hes also a rapist) speaks volumes about the dems and their supporters.

The obvious argument would be if they werent killing them in advance they would be more of a threat. That has to be the case being made up the chain to the president. What else could it be?

Thats where you get into the political side where we make the truth what we want because none of us on the outside really have access to the information. Like I said I dont know what has to happen between "____ said ____ will go down o nthe 18th" and a drone strike but im sure theres a lotta bullshit between the report and the plane taking off that is hard to judge from where we sit. All I know(assume at least) is the pitch has to be based on preventing the next big thing which is always gonna be hard to argue either way. Nobody wants the report to come out about how _____ asked you to take out _____ but you didnt and he he killed 900 people in Portland or whatever. I bet theres a lot of that "You dont wanna be wrong here Mr President" shit behind the scenes.

In the end I dont have enough information to judge these things. I can kinda evaluate the given reasons for all out war or something. Why an apartment complex was blown up clearly creating more future "terrorists" who hate us?

I dont know. But the pitch must weigh it against possible future attacks. Again....what else could they say? Trump...Obama...Bush. All at the mercy of what information is presented and how I suppose. Im not sure how you get around that.

Youre the president and a group of military lifers backed by the cia comes in and says "This guy is planning to blow up a training facility of ours. Hes in this building right here...." what can you really do but ask for more information? And who gives it to you? Them.

Unless you put a blanket order out not to respond to threats that dont threaten mainland America im not sure how you avoid a lot of those meetings. They kinda have you by the balls. You can send the missle to blow up the #2 guy in Iran or you can not. Im sure the idea itself doesnt come from the guy giving the order. Someone has to lay it out and who knows what their motivation is...

Its a bitch im sure.

[QUOTE=Kblaze8855;14043185]The obvious argument would be if they werent killing them in advance they would be more of a threat. That has to be the case being made up the chain to the president. What else could it be?[/quote]

How many times does this laughably naive narrative need to be proven wrong until people move on? Anyone interested in the "obvious argument" would consider this sort of "preemptive war" thinking to be a flagrant violation of the constitution

[quote]Thats where you get into the political side where we make the truth what we want because none of us on the outside really have access to the information. Like I said I dont know what has to happen between "____ said ____ will go down o nthe 18th" and a drone strike but im sure theres a lotta bullshit between the report and the plane taking off that is hard to judge from where we sit. All I know(assume at least) is the pitch has to be based on preventing the next big thing which is always gonna be hard to argue either way. Nobody wants the report to come out about how _____ asked you to take out _____ but you didnt and he he killed 900 people in Portland or whatever. I bet theres a lot of that "You dont wanna be wrong here Mr President" shit behind the scenes.[/quote]

Exactly what the **** are you talking about here ? Are you threatening my city with a terrorist attack? Or are you just talking about a theoretical attack that exists within your (obvoiusly) damaged brain?



In the end I dont have enough information to judge these things. I can kinda evaluate the given reasons for all out war or something. Why an apartment complex was blown up clearly creating more future "terrorists" who hate us?

I dont know. But the pitch must weigh it against possible future attacks. Again....what else could they say? Trump...Obama...Bush. All at the mercy of what information is presented and how I suppose.[/QUOTE]

Im not sure what level of world peace would have to be achieved to change it but....I think the era of preemptive strikes will last for some time. As long as there are intelligence people on the ground being given information(or even making it up) its gonna go up the chain and someone is gonna have to make a call. Thats just the world as it is. We will all be in the ground before it changes.

[QUOTE=Kblaze8855;14043192]Im not sure what level of world peace would have to be achieved to change it but....I think the era of preemptive strikes will last for some time. As long as there are intelligence people on the ground being given information(or even making it up) its gonna go up the chain and someone is gonna have to make a call. Thats just the world as it is. We will all be in the ground before it changes.[/QUOTE]

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No doubt the world is run by intelligence sociopaths, as it has been and will likely continue to be...

I doWonder if just from a place of principle you could ever see yourself authorizing a preemptive strike. Coming from outside the intelligence community and having an obvious distrust is there anything they could tell you to get you to blow up a room with 16 people in it because three of them are targets?

Or is that one of those “That’s why I wouldn’t run for president” things where you don’t know if you could make that call either way?

Im just curious.

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Is that entirely unrealistic?[/QUOTE]your map has Wisc. as a Republican state ,,, Walker slipped money under the door, and people
bought into the republican way in our state .... happened with Tommy Thompson....
Our state (wisc.) is a democratic state , and it proved it when Walker was not only ousted from a presidential candidacy but also as the governor ...
We will be voting against Trump = for sure.

[QUOTE=Rocket;14042821]Promise you want either [B]WHEN [/B]Trump wins.[/QUOTE]

Bookmarked :oldlol:

Not sure where that electoral map is coming from but its being generous as f*ck to the President. Biden's killing Trump in Wisconsin, and if you give him the 11 from AZ he still loses the race.

Biden's ahead but within the margins in NC and FL. OH and AZ are true toss-ups. Also, I don't think Trump can take can take GA and TX for granted.

[QUOTE=TheMan;14043808]Bookmarked :oldlol:[/QUOTE]

Bookmarked :oldlol:

Don's 4D strategic execution targeting electoral states :lol


sykeee... just swooned undeveloped parts of the country where diversity doesn't exist, into thinking they'd get a big ole wall built
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Trump wins 48 States

[QUOTE=Patrick Chewing;14043990]Trump wins 48 States[/QUOTE]

Lol you stupid moron. That's so funny in retrospect. Cry more. Republicans are so mad they are literally crying in the Capitol building. They're mad because they can't hold the L. Crybaby losers :lol

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