Re: Rob Parker: Lebron is the FFOAT
You have to be amazed by the fact that, Rob Parker is actually right that Lebron lost most finals series among all the players who have won at least 1 MVP. The list goes like this(Note neither Elgin Baylor nor Jerry West won regular season MVP before):
# of finals losses by MVP winning players:
Lebron James: 6
Kareem Abdul Jabbar: 4
Magic Johnson: 4
Wilt Chamberlain: 4
Bob Pettit: 3
Wes Unseld: 3
Julius Erving: 3
Karl Malone: 3
Bob McAdoo: 2
Larry Bird: 2
Shaq O'neal: 2
Kobe Bryant: 2
Kevin Durant: 2
Stephen Curry: 2
Bill Russell: 1
Bob Cousy: 1
Oscar Robertson: 1
Willies Reed: 1
Bill Walton: 1
Moses Malone: 1
Charles Barkley: 1
Hakeem Olajuwon: 1
Tim Duncan: 1
Allen Iverson: 1
Kevin Garnett: 1
Dirk Nowitzki: 1
Russell Westbrook: 1
James Harden: 1
Dave Cowens: 0
Michael Jordan: 0
David Robinson: 0
Derrick Rose: 0
Giannis Antetokounmpo: 0
Steve Nash: 0
So he has a point, Lebron is indeed the FFOAT. There aint even another MVP winner with 5 losses in Finals, and Lebron has 6. Hes the runaway winner of runner-ups.
Re: Rob Parker: Lebron is the FFOAT
[QUOTE=Kiddlovesnets;14177465]You have to be amazed by the fact that, Rob Parker is actually right that Lebron lost most finals series among all the players who have won at least 1 MVP. The list goes like this(Note neither Elgin Baylor nor Jerry West won regular season MVP before):
# of finals losses by MVP winning players:
Lebron James: 6
Kareem Abdul Jabbar: 4
Magic Johnson: 4
Wilt Chamberlain: 4
Bob Pettit: 3
Wes Unseld: 3
Julius Erving: 3
Karl Malone: 3
Bob McAdoo: 2
Larry Bird: 2
Shaq O'neal: 2
Kobe Bryant: 2
Kevin Durant: 2
Stephen Curry: 2
Bill Russell: 1
Bob Cousy: 1
Oscar Robertson: 1
Willies Reed: 1
Bill Walton: 1
Moses Malone: 1
Charles Barkley: 1
Hakeem Olajuwon: 1
Tim Duncan: 1
Allen Iverson: 1
Kevin Garnett: 1
Dirk Nowitzki: 1
Russell Westbrook: 1
James Harden: 1
Dave Cowens: 0
Michael Jordan: 0
David Robinson: 0
Derrick Rose: 0
Giannis Antetokounmpo: 0
Steve Nash: 0
So he has a point, Lebron is indeed the FFOAT. There aint even another MVP winner with 5 losses in Finals, and Lebron has 6. Hes the runaway winner of runner-ups.[/QUOTE]
Loser also has more FMVP's than anybody on that list outside Jordan
Re: Rob Parker: Lebron is the FFOAT
Interesting. Personally I didn't get past 9 words because he's the most retarded poster here. Apart from 3ball obviously.
Re: Rob Parker: Lebron is the FFOAT
[QUOTE=SATAN;14177589]Interesting. Personally I didn't get past 9 words because he's the most retarded poster here. Apart from 3ball obviously.[/QUOTE]
He makes some good points, personally I agree that winning 4 titles & making 10 Finals makes you a bigger loser than 2 titles & 6 Finals like Wilt and 1 title & 4 Finals like Dr. J
Re: Rob Parker: Lebron is the FFOAT
[QUOTE=Kiddlovesnets;14177465]You have to be amazed by the fact that, Rob Parker is actually right that Lebron lost most finals series among all the players who have won at least 1 MVP. The list goes like this(Note neither Elgin Baylor nor Jerry West won regular season MVP before):
# of finals losses by MVP winning players:
Lebron James: 6
Kareem Abdul Jabbar: 4
Magic Johnson: 4
Wilt Chamberlain: 4
Bob Pettit: 3
Wes Unseld: 3
Julius Erving: 3
Karl Malone: 3
Bob McAdoo: 2
Larry Bird: 2
Shaq O'neal: 2
Kobe Bryant: 2
Kevin Durant: 2
Stephen Curry: 2
Bill Russell: 1
Bob Cousy: 1
Oscar Robertson: 1
Willies Reed: 1
Bill Walton: 1
Moses Malone: 1
Charles Barkley: 1
Hakeem Olajuwon: 1
Tim Duncan: 1
Allen Iverson: 1
Kevin Garnett: 1
Dirk Nowitzki: 1
Russell Westbrook: 1
James Harden: 1
Dave Cowens: 0
Michael Jordan: 0
David Robinson: 0
Derrick Rose: 0
Giannis Antetokounmpo: 0
Steve Nash: 0
So he has a point, Lebron is indeed the FFOAT. There aint even another MVP winner with 5 losses in Finals, and Lebron has 6. Hes the runaway winner of runner-ups.[/QUOTE]
Good Post!!
Re: Rob Parker: Lebron is the FFOAT
Leffoat James already is a tier of his own when it comes to runner-ups for any MVP winners, and he can even make it worse if he gets a couple of more losses in the finals...
:(
Re: Rob Parker: Lebron is the FFOAT
As I've said before, they should make an award for the loser in the finals: the Lebron James Trophy, since his fangirls seem to reward making the finals more than winning it.
Re: Rob Parker: Lebron is the FFOAT
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Re: Rob Parker: Lebron is the FFOAT
[QUOTE=Kiddlovesnets;14177465]You have to be amazed by the fact that, Rob Parker is actually right that Lebron lost most finals series among all the players who have won at least 1 MVP. The list goes like this(Note neither Elgin Baylor nor Jerry West won regular season MVP before):
# of finals losses by MVP winning players:
Lebron James: 6
Kareem Abdul Jabbar: 4
Magic Johnson: 4
Wilt Chamberlain: 4
Bob Pettit: 3
Wes Unseld: 3
Julius Erving: 3
Karl Malone: 3
Bob McAdoo: 2
Larry Bird: 2
Shaq O'neal: 2
Kobe Bryant: 2
Kevin Durant: 2
Stephen Curry: 2
Bill Russell: 1
Bob Cousy: 1
Oscar Robertson: 1
Willies Reed: 1
Bill Walton: 1
Moses Malone: 1
Charles Barkley: 1
Hakeem Olajuwon: 1
Tim Duncan: 1
Allen Iverson: 1
Kevin Garnett: 1
Dirk Nowitzki: 1
Russell Westbrook: 1
James Harden: 1
Dave Cowens: 0
Michael Jordan: 0
David Robinson: 0
Derrick Rose: 0
Giannis Antetokounmpo: 0
Steve Nash: 0
So he has a point, Lebron is indeed the FFOAT. There aint even another MVP winner with 5 losses in Finals, and Lebron has 6. Hes the runaway winner of runner-ups.[/QUOTE]
Nice details!
Re: Rob Parker: Lebron is the FFOAT
Damn, 6 finals losses? To get to the last stage and not be able to close out, and have that happen to you 6 times?
Leffoat, lol. That's gonna stick.
Re: Rob Parker: Lebron is the FFOAT
[QUOTE=Airupthere;14231966]Damn, 6 finals losses? To get to the last stage and not be able to close out, and have that happen to you 6 times?
Leffoat, lol. That's gonna stick.[/QUOTE]
The worse part about Leffoat James is that, 5 of these 6 losses happened in his collusion era. I personally have no issue with Lebron colluding, but he still somehow went 4-5 after colluding. If you collude, its ring or bust, no excuse for losing these finals.
Re: Rob Parker: Lebron is the FFOAT
[QUOTE=Kiddlovesnets;14232000]The worse part about Leffoat James is that, 5 of these 6 losses happened in his collusion era. I personally have no issue with Lebron colluding, but he still somehow went 4-5 after colluding. If you collude, its ring or bust, no excuse for losing these finals.[/QUOTE]
And many have been blowouts as well.
Re: Rob Parker: Lebron is the FFOAT
[QUOTE=SouBeachTalents;14177583]Loser also has more FMVP's than anybody on that list outside Jordan[/QUOTE]
He wasn’t convincingly the superior player to Anthony Davis last year or in the Finals. Regardless of the award being given to him. Just calling a spade, a spade.
Re: Rob Parker: Lebron is the FFOAT
[QUOTE=LegendaryBaller;14232519]He wasn’t convincingly the superior player to Anthony Davis last year or in the Finals. Regardless of the award being given to him. Just calling a spade, a spade.[/QUOTE]
Last year overall, I'd agree. In the Finals? He was clearly better
Re: Rob Parker: LeBron is the FFOAT
[QUOTE=Airupthere;14231966]Damn, 6 finals losses? To get to the last stage and not be able to close out, and have that happen to you 6 times?
Leffoat, lol. That's gonna stick.[/QUOTE]
Lol that reaction is funny, considering most players in the league didn't even reach the finals during their career. :oldlol: