Tatum & Brown can't be your superstars. They do things to help their game not others

[QUOTE=1987_Lakers;14921123]Are you really using this as a point? Their two best players are still in their 20's and you are taking away points for them not making a top 75 list that came out 3 years ago?

:roll:

You are dumber than I thought.[/QUOTE]
Which of them should be on the list then? Which of them was top 5 in the MVP voting? Who was the second AllNBA player this year? Was there a third allstar?

[QUOTE=ShawkFactory;14921116]I think their "stackedness" is fairly comparable to a team like the Bad Boys, although of course the approach and team construction is different. One guy bordering on elite but not quite up with the true top guys, another great swiss-army knife-type guy, and several role players each capable of being the best or most impactful guy on any given night.[/QUOTE]

Their synergy is more key than their total individual talent. Their synergy allows them to do 5 out. No one is a liability on either end which helps everyone else.

[QUOTE=Real Men Wear Green;14921126]Which of them should be on the list then? Which of them was top 5 in the MVP voting? Who was the second AllNBA player this year? Was there a third allstar?[/QUOTE]

Porzingis, White, & Holiday are basically borderline All-stars. Like I said in the other thread, White got a lot of all-star hype this year, both Porzingis and Holiday were past All-Stars who are still in their prime.

And your "who was second all-nba?" statement is another lazy argument.

The '86 Celtics only had 1 All-NBA player
The '87 Lakers only had 1 All-NBA player

Seriously, you continue to make yourself look like a fool.

And I'm still laughing at the horrendous "Who made top 75?" statement. :roll:

So, no third allstar, only one AllNBA player, no one you are putting as one of the top 75. We're done.

[QUOTE=Real Men Wear Green;14921132]So, no third allstar, [B]only one AllNBA player, [/B] no one you are putting as one of the top 75. We're done.[/QUOTE]

You admitted yourself that you didn't agree with them only having one.

We're done.

Op is such a moron.

To be fair to OP they had an entire starting lineup of All-Star caliber players + a former All-Star caliber player in Horford.

This is not a normal team throughout NBA history and I certainly doubt he figured they would be 5 All-Star worthy players deep when he made the thread. Who would? How many teams in NBA history have been?

I understand only two made the team, but come on, the level of play of the other 3 is certainly there or very close, which is extremely abnormal throughout league history.

op is a dumbass

Stevens wasnt confident either why he got porzingis and jrue. A lot of gms would’ve seen how close they were in 2022 and stood pat banking on internal improvement. Tatum and brown also improved and add on some fortunate matchups injury luck they didn’t even need porzingis but I like the moves

[QUOTE=Wardell Curry;14922006]To be fair to OP they had an entire starting lineup of All-Star caliber players + a former All-Star caliber player in Horford.

This is not a normal team throughout NBA history and I certainly doubt he figured they would be 5 All-Star worthy players deep when he made the thread. Who would? How many teams in NBA history have been?

I understand only two made the team, but come on, the level of play of the other 3 is certainly there or very close, which is extremely abnormal throughout league history.[/QUOTE]

Yup.

Brown and Tatum are GOOD players. All star caliber players, particularly as it pertains to the regular season. In the playoffs, they have GOOD moments.

But the fact the Boston Celtics won doesnt MAKE these guys top 5, top 10 type players. They're on a team where Al Horford is the SIXTH best player... and Horford's still really good. It's a great roster. Theyre part of what makes it great but they have more support than really any other star pairing I can think of ever.

If you swap Tatum and Brown with Irving and Doncic... Boston still wins, Dallas probably does not make it out of the second round.

You can be happy for these two, congratulate them, sing their praises for what they did well. You dont have to overrate them JUST because their team won the title this year.

OP is right, Holiday & White were the real MVPs for Boston all season and in the finals

Team would not have won shit without Oshae Brissett.