Curry is the most overrated player in history

[QUOTE=3ball;14321518]So why wasn't Curry taking 10 threes a game in 2012?

Why the sudden jump ALONG WITH EVERYONE ELSE

y"all are just dumb

The league format/strategy changed dummy[/QUOTE]

The way 30 points was scored in 1960 was different than it was in 1990 and now in 2020. Its gonna be different again in 2050. The problem, as with most of your arguments, is you define greatness solely by how MJ did everything, when there are multiple paths to being great. There are multiple paths to being a great scorer. In todays game the 3 pointer has become a larger part of it than years past. It's not better or worse than before, it's just different. Basketball doesn't need gatekeeping. If the current product ain't for you, then go watch cricket or something

i'll say it steph's the best player in the league(apologies to jokic). Obviously you're confirming your previous claim that you havent watched games in years by saying steph just waits for catch and shoots. His 3 pointers went up because strategy changed and he got better too.

Again, someone needs to check your eyes if you think he was the same player in 2012 compared to now. He became a better shooter, guys can go from bad shooters to good shooters, why cant he go from a great one to the GOAT shooter. Just having the stamina to move around so much for 40min a game took a lot of hard work on his end, he has maybe the best endurance in the league.

[QUOTE=3ball;14321518]So why wasn't Curry taking 10 threes a game in 2012?

Why the sudden jump ALONG WITH EVERYONE ELSE

y"all are just dumb

The league format/strategy changed dummy[/QUOTE]

Speaking of dumb you continue to ignore the fact that Curry used to share the backcourt with chucker Monta Ellis.

In Curry's first 3 seasons (playing with Ellis) he attempted under 5 3s per game. After Ellis got traded his attempts went to 7.7.

playing help defense off of curry is just dumb, so the people guarding that drive and kick have theirselves to blame.

let em' score as much as possible from inside the 3 point line, but never ever help even if another man's dude is driving free to the rim.

even when playing curry man to man I would literally stay on him at and above the 3 point line and leave open'ish drives to the basket for him. He's not dropping for 40 shooting 2 pointers and going for lay-ups.

Literally every single poster on ISH knows that OP is certifiably insane :lol

OP hope you take up my offer on getting those therapy sessions you desperately need.

[QUOTE=paksat;14321683]playing help defense off of curry is just dumb, so the people guarding that drive and kick have theirselves to blame.

let em' score as much as possible from inside the 3 point line, but never ever help even if another man's dude is driving free to the rim.

even when playing curry man to man I would literally stay on him at and above the 3 point line and leave open'ish drives to the basket for him. He's not dropping for 40 shooting 2 pointers and going for lay-ups.[/QUOTE]

You underestimate how good Curry is at finishing at the rim.

Curry's % shot at the rim with just a guard on him is > than his semi contested 3 point shots. You can't just let him go for a layup attempt and you are half a step behind him.

[QUOTE=8Ball;14321685]You underestimate how good Curry is at finishing at the rim.

Curry's % shot at the rim with just a guard on him is > than his semi contested 3 point shots. You can't just let him go for a layup attempt and you are half a step behind him.[/QUOTE]

I'm really not though, he's gonna make either shot so might as well be a 2.

[QUOTE=paksat;14321683]playing help defense off of curry is just dumb, so the people guarding that drive and kick have theirselves to blame.

let em' score as much as possible from inside the 3 point line, but never ever help even if another man's dude is driving free to the rim.

even when playing curry man to man I would literally stay on him at and above the 3 point line and leave open'ish drives to the basket for him. He's not dropping for 40 shooting 2 pointers and going for lay-ups.[/QUOTE]

well that's why they set so many screens for him offball to get him open. you can overplay the 3pt line and he can still get open with some creativity and screening help. 2:37 is classic 2 man game with him and dray [url]https://youtu.be/rxdqVMp71wo?t=157[/url]. also he might not score 40 but he can score 30 off mostly 2s. Giving wide open layups is never a good strategy even vs curry.

[QUOTE=NBAGOAT;14321693]well that's why they set so many screens for him offball to get him open. you can overplay the 3pt line and he can still get open with some creativity and screening help. 2:37 is classic 2 man game with him and dray [url]https://youtu.be/rxdqVMp71wo?t=157[/url]. also he might not score 40 but he can score 30 off mostly 2s. Giving wide open layups is never a good strategy even vs curry.[/QUOTE]

I agree it sucks as a strategy, but at this point you have to do something drastic.

I would just take him out of the game as much as I can, and i'm aware he's gonna still be getting his points. But what they're doing right now just isn't gonna cut it. Maybe just double team him every time he gets the ball and frustrate him in that regard. Teams used to do that to Tmac back in the day afterall.

[QUOTE=paksat;14321701]I agree it sucks as a strategy, but at this point you have to do something drastic.

I would just take him out of the game as much as I can, and i'm aware he's gonna still be getting his points. But what they're doing right now just isn't gonna cut it. Maybe just double team him every time he gets the ball and frustrate him in that regard. Teams used to do that to Tmac back in the day afterall.[/QUOTE]

well teams have tried the double team him as often as possible. Lakers tried that in the 1st half but warriors role guys shot well. It really wont work if klay's good at all next year.

[QUOTE=3ball;14321637]Good response

but Curry is a result of an evolution that can't be sped up.

Curry is a result of a steady trend towards 3-pointers that began when the line was insituted in 1980 - every year the 3-point attempts increased until some puny kid decided that's [U]all[/U] the game should be about.. that couldn't happen before Curry, otherwise it [U]would've[/U] happened.. Curry is the natural evolution that occurs when you paint an arbitrary line on the court to "spice up" the game... That evolution can't be sped up..[/QUOTE]

If someone like Curry wouldn’t have existed in the 60s because of the basketball philosophy then maybe the philosophy was wrong.

Every form of life as we know it has evolved to become more efficient. Thought has evolved to include more information.

Only in this instance is evolution apparently a bad thing. I’m admittedly annoyed by certain aspects of the game now but you don’t have much to go on.

[QUOTE=Phoenix;14321655]

The way 30 points was scored in 1960 [B]was different[/B] than it was in 1990


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It's the same because players weren't getting an extra point for shots in 1960 or 1990 - threes didn't exist in the 60's and few people took them in 1990.

The game was never meant to be a three-point contest

There's nothing wrong with admitting to this devolvement of the game

[QUOTE=NBAGOAT;14321707]well teams have tried the double team him as often as possible. Lakers tried that in the 1st half but warriors role guys shot well. It really wont work if klay's good at all next year.[/QUOTE]

I wonder what playing a 3-2 zone vs him would do. We used to do this in the ABA against teams that liked to shoot 3's. At first I laughed at it and thought the coach, and owner that advocated it, were stupid because it's literally never used at NBA or college levels.

BUT that was before everyone started shooting 3's at the insane rate they do now. It turns out it worked really well too, to the point where after 2 games of seeing it I changed my mind about it. It's weak to a big man or any kind of mid range scorer, but it does cover the perimeter extremely well.

[QUOTE=ShawkFactory;14321709]If someone like Curry wouldn’t have existed in the 60s because of the basketball philosophy then maybe the philosophy was wrong.

Every form of life as we know it has evolved to become more efficient. Thought has evolved to include more information.

Only in this instance is evolution apparently a bad thing. I’m admittedly annoyed by certain aspects of the game now but you don’t have much to go on.[/QUOTE]



Curry didn't get there first - Ray Allen, Gilbert Arenas, Quinton Richardson, Peja and numerous guys were taking 7 or 8+ threes per game long before Curry did..

So Curry simply came along at a time when the league strategy was shifting to a 3-point format [i]that spaced out defenders and yielded open looks consistently[/i].

80% of today's threes are open, including 70% of Curry's, according to NBA.com.. Otoh, Reggie Miller didn't benefit from spacing strategy, so he always had a defender attached to him (like when he had to shove Michael Jordan to get open for the winner in the 98' ECF).

[QUOTE=RRR3;14321511]MJ scored more because he shot more. Curry just had a better scoring season than MJ ever did considering efficiency.[/QUOTE]

So one regular season in the easiest scoring era ever is worth more than all of mj's better post seasons? Most in a much tougher scoring era? I disagree but we're splitting hairs. They're both atg scorers