Re: Tell me what makes Kobe Bryant better than Bradley Beal or Devin Booker
[QUOTE=ImKobe;14342352]Man, y'all need to let this shit go. All-time rankings are highly subjective and MJ is the only GOAT, the 2-15 range is all highly debatable, depending on what your criteria and bias is.[/QUOTE]
I do let it go what do you mean. :confusedshrug:
Re: Tell me what makes Kobe Bryant better than Bradley Beal or Devin Booker
[QUOTE=Cold soul;14342362]I do let it go what do you mean. :confusedshrug:[/QUOTE]
No sense in trying to argue with Kobe haters, they'll never put him in the top 10 and that's just how it is. All these "all-time lists" are made by a small number of people and most of them probably never picked up a basketball.
Re: Tell me what makes Kobe Bryant better than Bradley Beal or Devin Booker
There are levels to skill. Like footwork, operating from the triple threat, back to the basket, pulls ups, handles, etc. Kobe was literally like a 100. The other two are like a 85. Kobe's skills were on point and had no more room to improve.
Not to mention, he was taller and at his physical peak, more athletic and could go over the top of bigs, something those guys could rarely do. Not to mention, an elite defender and won rings and showed he was clutch.
Re: Tell me what makes Kobe Bryant better than Bradley Beal or Devin Booker
OP, for real? I know you Bronistas are upset, but thus is ridiculous even for you stans.
Re: Tell me what makes Kobe Bryant better than Bradley Beal or Devin Booker
[QUOTE=ClipperRevival;14342397]There are levels to skill. Like footwork, operating from the triple threat, back to the basket, pulls ups, handles, etc. Kobe was literally like a 100. The other two are like a 85. Kobe's skills were on point and had no more room to improve.
Not to mention, he was taller and at his physical peak, more athletic and could go over the top of bigs, something those guys could rarely do. Not to mention, an elite defender and won rings and showed he was clutch.[/QUOTE]
Kobe was bullshit in the clutch.
Absolute trash.
Booker and Beal far outdo him in that category.
If the argument really ****ing is „levels to skills“, I won.
It seems there is nothing from a production standpoint that Kobe does more for the team than Beal or Book.
All 3 operate the exact same way.
Re: Tell me what makes Kobe Bryant better than Bradley Beal or Devin Booker
[QUOTE=ArbitraryWater;14342506]Kobe was bullshit in the clutch.
Absolute trash.
Booker and Beal far outdo him in that category.
If the argument really ****ing is „levels to skills“, I won.
It seems there is nothing from a production standpoint that Kobe does more for the team than Beal or Book.
All 3 operate the exact same way.[/QUOTE]
Out of curiously, would you also say Booker & Beal are on the same level of Wade, Durant, Kawhi etc?
Re: Tell me what makes Kobe Bryant better than Bradley Beal or Devin Booker
[QUOTE=SouBeachTalents;14342510]Out of curiously, would you also say Booker & Beal are on the same level of Wade, Durant, Kawhi etc?[/QUOTE]
Wade career wise because he dropped so hard, but not prime Wade.
Kawhi no. Kawhi is a level above here.
KD is also a more efficient player but a serial choker and underschiever outside of Olympian teams, so he becomes a little hard to assess in a historical/ATG point of view, but in a vacuum obviously a much better player.
Re: Tell me what makes Kobe Bryant better than Bradley Beal or Devin Booker
[QUOTE=ArbitraryWater;14342522]Wade career wise because he dropped so hard, but not prime Wade.
Kawhi no. Kawhi is a level above here.
KD is also a more efficient player but a serial choker and underschiever outside of Olympian teams, so he becomes a little hard to assess in a historical/ATG point of view, but in a vacuum obviously a much better player.[/QUOTE]
Deflecting Bran's failures by comparing Kobe to fringe stars?
:roll:
Re: Tell me what makes Kobe Bryant better than Bradley Beal or Devin Booker
Overall athleticism, ball handling in a big way.
Book is kind of out of his depth here.
Offensively Beal is damn Kobe-ish. Still not the raw athlete though. Finishing lacking. At least as good of a pure shooter but not as good as a tough shot maker.
Defensively it’s whatever. Kobe is better than them but not in a huge way at all. Offensively he blows them out. Especially Book.
Re: Tell me what makes Kobe Bryant better than Bradley Beal or Devin Booker
[QUOTE=Hamtaro CP3KDKG;14341306]What does one of the best perimeter defenders of all time do better than 2 nikkas that don't D up. Makes sense a retard made this thread. Besides maybe shooting the 3 they do literally nothing better and Kobe had garbage spacing in his prime compared to players now. He was one of the 5 most complete halfcourt players ever and could do it all in the halfcourt in any action
remember we're in the most inflated era ever. An era where a 5'6 midget averaged 29/6 on 63 TS% and led a 1 seed and was top 5 in MVP voting[/QUOTE]
One of the best perimeter defenders of all-time, lol.
People like Matisse Thybulle, Nate McMillan, and Tony Allen have existed, and Kobe is what, one of their peers?
Kobe wasn’t a better defender than Fisher in any of his title years.
Re: Tell me what makes Kobe Bryant better than Bradley Beal or Devin Booker
[QUOTE=ArbitraryWater;14342506]Kobe was bullshit in the clutch.
Absolute trash.
Booker and Beal far outdo him in that category.
If the argument really ****ing is „levels to skills“, I won.
It seems there is nothing from a production standpoint that Kobe does more for the team than Beal or Book.
All 3 operate the exact same way.[/QUOTE]
I don't like restricting the definition of clutch to "late and close" game situations.
From a production standpoint? You can run an offense through kobe. You can let beal shoot a lot. That difference says it all. When it comes down to one possession whether it's the end of the game or to stop the game from getting out of hand with 7 minutes left in the second quarter, the higher you go on the GOAT list... the better chance you have at converting a bucket when you need it and everyone in the arena knows it. Beal aint that. Booker is only 24. I'm not making any judgements on him right now.
Re: Tell me what makes Kobe Bryant better than Bradley Beal or Devin Booker
This thread is disgracefully moronic in every sense of the word.
Re: Tell me what makes Kobe Bryant better than Bradley Beal or Devin Booker
OP with a bad meltdown here.
Why do Lebron stans struggle with feeling secure about Lebron's legacy? I'm a big Bron fan, but he and the Lakers losing already in the playoffs doesn't all of a sudden take Lebron out of the top 3 players of all time.
You should stop stanning so you can actually enjoy watching basketball.
Re: Tell me what makes Kobe Bryant better than Bradley Beal or Devin Booker
[QUOTE=999Guy;14342549]Overall athleticism, ball handling in a big way.
Book is kind of out of his depth here.
Offensively Beal is damn Kobe-ish. Still not the raw athlete though. Finishing lacking. At least as good of a pure shooter but not as good as a tough shot maker.
Defensively it’s whatever. Kobe is better than them but not in a huge way at all. Offensively he blows them out. Especially Book.[/QUOTE]
Yet both of them blow Kobe out the water when it comes to scoring efficiency.
Kobe never shot 47%.
Book has done that and better for 2 years running now.
Beal did it for 2 seasons at high volume + another at just fringe all-star volume.
Re: Tell me what makes Kobe Bryant better than Bradley Beal or Devin Booker
[QUOTE=ArbitraryWater;14342619]Yet both of them blow Kobe out the water when it comes to scoring efficiency.
Kobe never shot 47%.
Book has done that and better for 2 years running now.
Beal did it for 2 seasons at high volume + another at just fringe all-star volume.[/QUOTE]
If they played in Kobe’s era they wouldn’t be shooting over 47%