Current LeBron is a much better player than Wizards Jordan

[QUOTE=Bronbron23;14483989][url]https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=xw4sVpVdJDQ[/url] frank thomas talking about how he worked harder than everyone.

[url]https://www.google.com/amp/s/clutchpoints.com/last-dance-news-michael-jordan-trainer-warned-him-that-baseball-workouts-would-ruin-his-basketball-abilities/amp/[/url] one of the best trainers telling mj how all the baseball training would hurt him physically for basketball. Why would this be if the 2 year break from basketball was actually a break?

[url]https://www.google.com/amp/s/www.sportscasting.com/michael-jordan-hit-so-much-that-his-hands-would-bleed/%3famp[/url] coaching staff about how he worked so hard his hands would bleed and they worried he was training too hard.[/QUOTE]

Watch Lebrontards deflect or run away from this post altogether.

Hard to tell. 37 is older for professional athletes but if you talk to a 40 year old, they'll tell you they wish they could go back to 37 even if they are declining.

I look at it more like the IQ and athletiscm of the younger prospects catches up. Jordan struggled and didn't even defend Kobe Pierce Tmac Carter because they could defend him fairly effectively.

Bron has just enough to juice to outrun guys in the open court but he can't blow by guys anymore nor can he rise up and cram on guys. He's in this weird plays like a throwback big but is tasked with defending the perimeter.

[QUOTE=PP34Deuce;14484534]Hard to tell. 37 is older for professional athletes but if you talk to a 40 year old, they'll tell you they wish they could go back to 37 even if they are declining.

I look at it more like the IQ and athletiscm of the younger prospects catches up. Jordan struggled and didn't even defend Kobe Pierce Tmac Carter because they could defend him fairly effectively.

Bron has just enough to juice to outrun guys in the open court but he can't blow by guys anymore nor can he rise up and cram on guys. He's in this weird plays like a throwback big but is tasked with defending the perimeter.[/QUOTE]


Kobe was the only guy that Wizards' Jordan didn't defend...

Otherwise, Wizards' Jordan was the primary defender on Tmac, Pierce and Carter - outplaying them about half the time he faced them during the Wizards years.

[QUOTE=3ba11;14484539]Kobe was the only guy that Wizards' Jordan didn't defend...

Otherwise, Wizards' Jordan was the primary defender on Tmac, Pierce and Carter - outplaying them about half the time he faced them during the Wizards years.[/QUOTE]
He didn’t come close to outperforming McGrady in any of their meetings. I don’t know about the others.

Jordan didn't defend those guys half the time because he didn't play even 70 games first year and he came off the bench for 15 or so games the following year.

Wizards defenders for athletic swing men were RIP and Tyrone Nesby who was athletic and 6 8. Most of Jordan's defensive plays in regular season were his great block in eon mercer. After that, Jordan wasn't clamping guys up nor was he a liability.

My main point was once the next generation has their IQ catch up to their athletiscm that's when an all time player hits the back 9.

Not even close

[QUOTE=8Ball;14482166]The knock on Jordan is that he didn't have longevity. Only 13 real seasons played. Too little.[/QUOTE]
In the little time he did play though he did more than anyone else though. Thats with players having the longevity argument against him

current lebron is better than 96-98 mj.

[QUOTE=Johnny32;14507236]current lebron is better than 96-98 mj.[/QUOTE]

On defense?

[QUOTE=Johnny32;14507236]current lebron is better than 96-98 mj.[/QUOTE]

Are you thinking of the same Lebron that I'm thinking of? The one who can't even get what should be a super team, the pre-season favorite in the west, up to .500?

current LeBron is a much better player than any version of lebron offensively so yes hes obviously better than wizards jordan.

it is kind of fishy though that lebrons basically a 30ppg player on 54% now even though he never came close to that kind of output and efficiency at the same time in any other of his 18 seasons

I'd have to say, going by the past few days, johnny32 is now officially the dumbest cvnt on ish.

Granted, I don't think even he believes most of what he says....but God dammit hhahahahaah

it's funny how they try to pretend 96-98 jordan wasn't an inefficient chucker on one end who has hidden on defense on the other end. unfortunately for them those of us who watched him (nba lg pass on primestar 96-98) know better.

[QUOTE=Johnny32;14507339]it's funny how they try to pretend 96-98 jordan wasn't an inefficient chucker on one end who has hidden on defense on the other end. unfortunately for them those of us who watched him (nba lg pass on primestar 96-98) know better.[/QUOTE]


Jordan was top 5 DPOY from 88-98'

Meanwhile, Pippen was hidden in the 98' ECF by guarding the slowest PG of all-time, while MJ had to run a few miles defending HOF Miller.

Jordan was also the primary defender on Gary Payton in Games 3 and 5 of the 96' Finals.

And we can't compare efficiency because Lebron always had equal-scoring partners to attract equal defensive attention in the Finals or various playoff runs, so he didn't face maximum defensive attention like Jordan.

Obviously Lebron is better than Wizards Jordan, but that version of Jordan was a total joke. He should've never come back, that was embarrassing.