Has any other player created a dynasty with less help than Stephen Curry?

[QUOTE=ShawkFactory;14667502]What about the times that they got unlucky and didn’t win? Speaking of 04, 06, and 13. You could quick legitimately argue that 3 total plays cost them 3 championships.

They were the best team in the league from 04-07 by pretty much every metric. As much as they were lucky for a couple rings, they’re unlucky that they dint have a couple more. It all comes out in the wash.[/QUOTE]


Imagine watching a team win not one or two…but [B]five[/B] titles…and taking from it that they were just lucky. And ignoring of course that maybe the luckiest shot ever(Fisher), the dumbest foul ever(Manu trying to block dirks layup up 2 giving them a 3 point play to tie), And one of the clutches tying shots in history(ray) might’ve prevented you from winning eight.

Its like nobody can get on the internet and just be real. Every take has to be dipped in a bullshit coating of some variety. And the back to back thing is maybe as bad. Like Duncan’s career is better if Ray misses in 13 but he didn’t have a goat tier run to win in 03 because the same 5 rings has 2 of them back to back.

Nit picking hate at its finest.

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[SIZE=3]In 2012, rookie Curry missed the season, while David Lee led the Warriors to 47 wins in 2013 as the team's only All-NBA player.

In addition to having an All-NBA teammate in Lee, Curry landed alongside a 25 ppg player in Monta Ellis, while rookie Klay averaged 13 ppg and started.

This is obviously a lot more help than Jordan had with rookie Pippen getting 8 ppg off the bench and a team of bums

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Less help? The guy literally had 5 al stars playing next to him and as soon as even 1 gets injured he can't even make the playoffs looooool. If there's 1 star in history who needs help its Curry. He couldn't even make the playoffs with 2 all stars, he needs at least 4.

curry's dynasty needed kyrie and love to go down 2015 and then needed the western conference all-star starting line-up in 2017 and 2018.


2022 was his first finals MVP. :oldlol:

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[SIZE=3]In 2012, rookie Curry missed the season, while David Lee led the Warriors to 47 wins in 2013 as the team's only All-NBA player.

In addition to having an All-NBA teammate in Lee, Curry landed alongside a 25 ppg player in Monta Ellis, while rookie Klay averaged 13 ppg and started.

This is obviously a lot more help than Jordan had with rookie Pippen getting 8 ppg off the bench and a team of bums

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You're all over the place so I cannot get your story straight.

All-NBA only-with-Curry David Lee? Young Jordan got to play with 7x All-NBA George Gervin. David Lee was leading the team in 2012 when they had a 23-win record. It was Curry leading the team the next year when they had a 47-win record. That 20-win or so improvement is probably what got Lee the All-Star and All-NBA selection but in hindsight I think we all know Curry was the one largely responsible for that.

Monta 25 points Ellis? He was chucking at an effective field goal percentage of 47.6%. Meanwhile Jordan had Orlando Woolridge putting up nearly 23 points at 55.4 % eFG.

All-Rookie Klay? Charles Oakley was All-Rookie. Quintin Dailey was recent All-Rookie too.

[QUOTE=Stephonit;14668010]You're all over the place so I cannot get your story straight.

All-NBA only-with-Curry David Lee? Young Jordan got to play with 7x All-NBA George Gervin. David Lee was leading the team in 2012 when they had a 23-win record. It was Curry leading the team the next year when they had a 47-win record. That 20-win or so improvement is probably what got Lee the All-Star and All-NBA selection but in hindsight I think we all know Curry was the one largely responsible for that.

Monta 25 points Ellis? He was chucking at an effective field goal percentage of 47.6%. Meanwhile Jordan had Orlando Woolridge putting up nearly 23 points at 55.4 % eFG.

All-Rookie Klay? Charles Oakley was All-Rookie. Quintin Dailey was recent All-Rookie too.[/QUOTE]
Steve kerr

[QUOTE=Axe;14668034]Steve kerr[/QUOTE]

Won 3 rings with Jordan. Has won 4 rings with Curry.

[QUOTE=Stephonit;14668118]Won 3 rings with Jordan. Has won 4 rings with Curry.[/QUOTE]

He played what, three full years with Jordan? And got a ring in every one of them? How many years has he been with Curry?

I have tons of respect for Curry, but that argument is just silly.

[QUOTE=Stephonit;14668118]Won 3 rings with Jordan. Has won 4 rings with Curry.[/QUOTE]
So a total of 7 rings with either of them? Plus two during his stint with the spurs.

Which makes it 9 > 6 > 4 in total.

[QUOTE=Full Court;14668120]He played what, three full years with Jordan? And got a ring in every one of them? How many years has he been with Curry?

I have tons of respect for Curry, but that argument is just silly.[/QUOTE]

Without Curry for most of the season the Kerr coached Warriors were last in the league. Without Jordan the Bulls Kerr was part of were still contenders.

[QUOTE=Stephonit;14668648]Without Curry for most of the season the Kerr coached Warriors were last in the league. Without Jordan the Bulls Kerr was part of were still contenders.[/QUOTE]
Are you telling us that curry was more valuable to the warriors than jordan ever was to the bulls? :coleman:

[QUOTE=Axe;14668692]Are you telling us that curry was more valuable to the warriors than jordan ever was to the bulls? :coleman:[/QUOTE]

Is that the conclusion that you drew? You said it not me.

[QUOTE=Stephonit;14668693]Is that the conclusion that you drew? You said it not me.[/QUOTE]
Let kerr tell us what he thinks someday.

Created a dynasty with main guys who haven't won a championship anywhere else without him. What other NBA dynasties are like that?

[QUOTE=Stephonit;14670499]Created a dynasty with main guys who haven't won a championship anywhere else without him. [B]What other NBA dynasties are like that[/B]?[/QUOTE]

Almost all of them.