2023-24 NBA Season

[url]https://www.deseret.com/2023/11/3/23944645/unapologetically-himself-joe-ingles-career-continues-with-orlando-magic[/url]

[QUOTE][URL="https://www.deseret.com/2022/2/5/22910538/respect-for-joe-ingles-goes-beyond-utah-utah-jazz-michael-malone"]Joe Ingles[/URL], at 36 years old, joined the Magic in free agency. The Orlando front office and coaching staff made it clear to Ingles that he would play a different role than he was used to but sold him on the idea of mentoring the youthful roster.

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they sold him with a lot of money. He looked like a minimum vet contract his last year here before blowing out his knee. The fact that he keeps getting paid is shocking!

He was never in great shape but definitely fat in that photo! :cheers:

[url]https://thejnotes.com/2023/11/03/the-utah-jazz-need-to-consider-this-recently-released-nba-veteran/[/url]

was still hitting the 3 last year but who's minutes will he take? Unless it's The Bum which it won't be than I'm not sure it makes much sense at this stage

[url]https://thejnotes.com/2023/11/03/who-is-letting-jordan-clarkson-shoot-the-ball-20-times-for-the-utah-jazz/[/url]

[QUOTE]And yet, while he’s struggling to hit the backboard this season, for some reason Hardy has let Clarkson take 20 shots against the Orlando Magic. Clarkson, the guy who’s notoriously a streaky shooter and has been bad for most of the young season, took three more shots than the team’s star, Lauri Markkanen.

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played the most minutes and had almost 1/3 of their TO's. No one should be surprised. He sucks

[QUOTE]This team needs a real point guard. Yes, they’re fifth in the league in assists, a good sign, they’re also fifth in the league in turnovers as well. That’s unacceptable if you expect this team to compete for the playoffs.

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and the best stretch was the end of the 2nd with Dunn leading the way at both ends. Of course he didn't see the floor again. All the other guards were good though. Makes no sense but neither did him starting last year or him getting an extension. He must give great head

[url]https://flywareagle.com/2023/11/03/auburn-basketball-great-bigger-role/[/url]

[QUOTE]Kessler is already the complete package on the defensive end of the floor. His ability to rebound and defend makes him a player you need on the floor. If the Utah Jazz invest in expanding his offensive game, they can have a player who will be looked at as a top big man in the NBA and a complete package overall.

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no he's not! He's yet to show he can defend in space

[url]https://kslsports.com/507124/utah-jazz-fall-to-minnesota-timberwolves/[/url]

[QUOTE]Nearly a tenth of the way into the season and it’s blatantly clear the Jazz starting backcourt isn’t working.

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the fact that anyone ever thought it would is concerning. Fix it Danny!

[QUOTE]Jordan Clarkson’s experience, and terrific play last year were a good reason to start him coming into the season.

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no it wasn't. He's an awful basketball player

[QUOTE]Both players are prone to overdribbling, though Horton-Tucker is particularly guilty of putting his head down without ever looking for his teammates.

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Sure they have The Bum looking for his teammates more but he's better off not because he usually throws the ball away if he tries to pass it

[QUOTE]Had his shooting numbers improved since last season it might be easier to justify keeping him in a starting role, but they’ve remained below a reasonable expectation.

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they like his D I think but than why isn't Dunn playing? George might be their next best defender out there

[QUOTE]If the Jazz can close the road trip with two or more wins, they can feel good about their record considering the difficulty of the schedule to start the year.

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will still have at least two losses thanks to The Bum and Hardy playing The Bum

[B][url]https://kslsports.com/507114/blog-utah-jazz-fall-to-minnesota-timberwolves/[/url]

[QUOTE]Lauri Markkanen [/B]continues to play great basketball early in the year, the [B]Jazz [/B]are going to have to decide how long they’re willing to extend this rebuild rather than surrounding him with high-level talent.[/QUOTE]

The extension for The Bum isn't surrounding him with high level talent? :roll:


[QUOTE][B]Anthony[/B] [B]Edwards[/B] is an elite defensive player, pretty unusual for such a young guard, but it gives him a chance to be one of the best players in the league at his size with his offensive prowess.

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also gives Rudy a chance to be on a great team finally! :cheers:

[url]https://www.ksl.com/article/50776819/mike-conley-calls-being-traded-from-jazz-the-weirdest-day-of-my-life[/url]

[QUOTE]"Mike was a massive sort of safety blanket for our team and most importantly for me," Jazz coach Will Hardy said.

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Yep. He had me fooled into thinking you could coach despite your love of The Bum. I was wrong :cry:

[url]https://www.ksl.com/article/50776740/gobert-reminds-utah-fans-what-they-used-to-have--a-good-defense--in-jazz-loss-to-wolves[/url]

but Kessler is already as good as Gobert! DPOTY! :lol

[url]https://www.deseret.com/2023/11/4/23938650/utah-jazz-lose-to-minnesota-timberwolves[/url]

[QUOTE]But then I remember that last year’s Jazz team didn’t know each other at all and had a lot less familiarity and continuity on the roster and early in the season they didn’t look nearly as disjointed as this team.

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Conley. I think Dunn could give them some of that unfortunately Hardy is the coach

[QUOTE]Walker Kessler has clearly struggled this season, Sexton is guilty of the same things that Horton-Tucker is, the spacing with Collins still needs to be figured out and optimized, Jordan Clarkson hasn’t shot the ball as well as he would like, and I could probably say something about nearly everyone else on the roster.

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The Bum can't shoot though

[url]https://thejnotes.com/2023/11/04/3-things-the-utah-jazz-have-to-do-to-turn-things-around/[/url]

[QUOTE]Kris Dunn and Ochai Agbaji, the team’s two best perimeter players, are playing just 13 minutes per game. They’re giving up minutes to guys like Talen Horton-Tucker (11th on the team in True Shooting Percentage) and Jordan Clarkson (12th in TS%), and those minutes are ultimately being wasted. Especially by Clarkson. Horton-Tucker is at least a playable defender, Clarkson is 13th.

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Talen is young with upside. The Bum is old and he sucks

[QUOTE]But that’s not at all, as the Jazz are also limiting the minutes Kelly Olynyk (No. 1in defensive box plus-minus for the Jazz) and Walker Kessler are getting as well. It’s almost like if the Jazz played all four men at the same time, and for more than just a handful of minutes, the team defense may actually improve.

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Kessler hasn't been good and Olynyk hasn't been the past couple games

[QUOTE]As mentioned above, the two players who are hurting the team the most are probably[URL="https://thejnotes.com/2023/10/25/2023-2024-utah-jazz-season-guide-preview/"] Talen Horton-Tucker and Jordan Clarkson[/URL]. They have made so many bad decisions to start the season, and with someone like Clarkson, all you see is bad shot after bad shot. Clarkson’s shot selection is terrible, and he’s taking a lot of awful, just terribly planned shots.

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his passing may be even worse

[QUOTE]And the coaches let him. If he’s shooting just 36% from the floor, there’s no reason to let him shoot more in a game than Lauri Markkanen.

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same problem they had with Mitchell and The Bum while the most efficient player in NBA history stood alone at the rim

[QUOTE]He’s clearly talented enough but for some reason the Jazz aren’t letting him off the leash, so to speak. He’s a better scorer than anyone on the team but just about every night he’s been second or so in shots attempted. Imagine telling Reggie Miller in his prime that someone else would be taking more shots than him.

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He's going to the line. Those don't count as FDA in case you didn't know

[url]https://flywareagle.com/2023/11/03/auburn-basketball-great-bigger-role/[/url]

[QUOTE]Kessler is already the complete package on the defensive end of the floor. His ability to rebound and defend makes him a player you need on the floor. If the Utah Jazz invest in expanding his offensive game, they can have a player who will be looked at as a top big man in the NBA and a complete package overall.

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yet to show he can guard in space. He's sucked this year. DPOTY! :facepalm

[URL]https://thejnotes.com/2023/11/05/time-utah-jazz-bench-talen-horton-tucker-jordan-clarkson/[/URL]

[QUOTE]Horton-Tucker has never been a good NBA player, so his bad start isn’t surprising, it was expected. He was just a career 43% shooter from the floor coming into the season and shot under 42% the last two seasons. Clarkson, on the other hand, was one of the best scorers for the Jazz just last season. And while he’s never been a super-efficient scorer, he’s never been this bad.

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The Bum has certainly been this bad. Maybe not at the beginning of the season but mostly he sucks

[QUOTE]It’s fair to say not much, just his age. Clarkson is 31 years old and while that may not seem old to many, Lou Williams was declining as young as 33. Not everyone is the same, and bodies break down or last longer than others, but it’s possible that this isn’t a slump for Clarkson, but his new normal.

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the biggest problem is he starts and Hardy thinks he's the best player on the team

[QUOTE]They clearly[URL="https://thejnotes.com/2023/11/04/the-utah-jazz-and-3-other-teams-who-arent-performing-as-expected/"] need better guys[/URL] than what they have in their starting lineup, so why not try Kris Dunn, Ochai Agbaji, and/or Keyonte George? At this point, what do you have to lose?

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Or Sexton. I'd consider benching Kessler too. Front office needs to fix it because the coach appears to be clueless but than the front office extended The Bum so maybe the need to go to

[url]https://thejnotes.com/2023/11/05/selfish-basketball-and-not-team-chemistry-is-why-the-utah-jazz-are-so-bad/[/url]

[QUOTE]It’s not for the offense. No, Clarkson has been on this team for years and is chucking up garbage at a consistent rate. So much so that everyone knows he’s hurting the offense, everyone but head coach Hardy. If Clarkson was playing this exact style, but making more of his shots, then this isn’t an issue. It’s an issue because he’s missing and still playing the same way.

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it's an issue rather he makes shots or not

[QUOTE]And another way of saying that is selfish. The team isn’t passing the ball well, and when they do they seemingly turn it over far more often than anyone else in the league. They’re not running screens for one another and the pick-and-roll game that we thought the team would be built around has been so minimal it’s almost non-existent.

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the thing I liked last year was that outside The Bum they were unselfish. Apparently that was Conley not Hardy

[QUOTE]The Jazz need to run their offense through their bigs, instead, Horton-Tucker and Clarkson are running the offense through themselves. This is a selfish brand of offense and one that won’t see the team succeed long-term.

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Dunn should start at the one and George backing him up until he's ready which might not be long it appears

[QUOTE]We already wrote that the team needs to bench Clarkson and Horton-Tucker, but it may not be that simple. The Jazz should seriously consider trading both men.[/QUOTE]

The Bum should certainly be gone. Talen is young and could be effective off the bench. Either him or Sexton. Could start Sexton with Dunn and Agbaji and bench Kessler too though

[url]https://thejnotes.com/2023/11/05/losing-to-the-minnesota-timberwolves-further-digs-a-hole-this-team-cant-come-out-of/[/url]

[QUOTE]And it isn’t just the total points, but the overall play of the team. The Jazz had no answer for Anthony Edwards and Karl-Anthony Towns on Saturday night. Now, Edwards was going to get him, he’s been that good for a good long while, but Towns? The T-Wolves big was coming into the Jazz’s game having a bad year so far.

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Towns is a great offensive player too :facepalm

[url]https://thejnotes.com/2023/11/06/3-chicago-bulls-who-would-look-good-as-members-of-the-utah-jazz/[/url]

[QUOTE][h=2]Alex Caruso[/h][/QUOTE]

would love him


[QUOTE][h=2]Ayo Dosunmu[/h]The idea is that the Utah Jazz need new guards. The only three the team should even consider keeping are Collin Sexton, Keyonte George, and Kris Dunn, and honestly, Dunn could go if he’s needed to make the money work. Outside of that, the Jazz should clear the board if needed. We’d like to keep Ochai Agbaji, but again, if he’s needed to make the deal work, then he’s needed to make the deal work. Getting back someone like Ayo Dosunmu will help things dramatically. He’s a solid perimeter defender who can shoot when allowed. He may not be a starter for the Jazz, at least yet, but he has an upside.

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Talen is young. I can see keeping him. Keep Agbaji and play him. The Bum needs to go. I'd keep Dunn unless you get another floor general and defensive stopper to replace him. Don't have either now but him