Re: How Trump outsmarted China
[QUOTE=TheMan;14992173]If this were true, you wouldn't even feel the need to mention this :lol[/QUOTE]
It is though, and it's something that normal people do in life. The fact that you believe it's some impossibility just shows you need to go out more. Well, on second thought, you don't really seem like a shut in, but there are a handful of posters here who need to go out more and not take this site so seriously.
Re: How Trump outsmarted China
[QUOTE=1987_Lakers;14992183]It is though, and it's something that normal people do in life. The fact that you believe it's some impossibility just shows you need to go out more. Well, on second thought, you don't really seem like a shut in, but there are a handful of posters here who need to go out more and not take this site so seriously.[/QUOTE]
Well I guess everyone is different, I sometimes go days where I don't check in here and sometimes I post various times during the day. I'm in a different stage of my life, I'm married and have kids, I don't feel the need to let people here know what I do on my free time.
Re: How Trump outsmarted China
[url]https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=3xz7BGAJYhg[/url]
Re: How Trump outsmarted China
[url]https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=A-oOek2KA5U[/url]
Re: How Trump outsmarted China
[QUOTE=TheMan;14992172]:roll:
As I said, you believe EVERYTHING Trump says.
Trump has begun backing down, he exempted Chinese products last night after he said no more exemptions while China has stood firm. Funny you didn't address that lol[/QUOTE]
The products you say are exempt, like phones and TVs, are still getting the 20% tariff that was first put up, so not exempt.
China has publicly said that they won't go higher than 125%, because it doesn't matter if you go higher as products are already too costly at that rate.
I think we can all agree that great that 70 countries have already reached out expressing interest in making a new deal, it shows that there's room for improvement from the old ones.
Re: How Trump outsmarted China
[QUOTE=1987_Lakers;14992140]Is that why countless countries are currently running to Trump for a deal?[/QUOTE]
I cant say for certain if thats true. What I DO know is that countries are running to eachother to make deals to bypass Trump. Nobody knows what Trump is thinking, so it's risky for any country to deal with just the U.S. at this point.
Re: How Trump outsmarted China
[video=youtube_share;R2-GsYRDNz0]https://youtu.be/R2-GsYRDNz0?si=apEGM3_qCVo9BnSL[/video]
Re: How Trump outsmarted China
[QUOTE=TheMan;14992448][video=youtube_share;R2-GsYRDNz0]https://youtu.be/R2-GsYRDNz0?si=apEGM3_qCVo9BnSL[/video][/QUOTE]
USA might invade Greenland tomorrow out of the corporate "necessity".
Re: How Trump outsmarted China
[video=youtube;EGDdpBGlmxQ]https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=EGDdpBGlmxQ[/video]
Re: How Trump outsmarted China
[video=youtube_share;m1IMdY0r4xY]https://youtu.be/m1IMdY0r4xY?si=EyRCPamF1LHrS-wb[/video]
Informative video but to get the gist of this trade war, go to 12:20 mark, that's the unpleasant truth about America that MAGA don't want to recognize.
Re: How Trump outsmarted China
[QUOTE=TheMan;14992544][video=youtube_share;m1IMdY0r4xY]https://youtu.be/m1IMdY0r4xY?si=EyRCPamF1LHrS-wb[/video]
Informative video but to get the gist of this trade war, go to 12:20 mark, that's the unpleasant truth about America that MAGA don't want to recognize.[/QUOTE]
Damn. Those are hard truths Americans choose to keep a blind eye on.
Re: How Trump outsmarted China
[QUOTE=TheMan;14992544][video=youtube_share;m1IMdY0r4xY]https://youtu.be/m1IMdY0r4xY?si=EyRCPamF1LHrS-wb[/video]
Informative video but to get the gist of this trade war, go to 12:20 mark, that's the unpleasant truth about America that MAGA don't want to recognize.[/QUOTE]
This probably takes the cake as the weirdest statement you've ever made trying to get a "win" on MAGA, like what in the actual **** lol.
The fact that past politicians sold out America for the benefit of corporations and Trump pointing out this over and over and over again, is why he was elected President. And you come here presenting it as an "unpleasant truth about America that MAGA don't want to recognize" :oldlol:
Do you understand that tariffs are a fee for companies to pay on the initial value of their imported product and not a fee for the Chinese govt?
Example:
Without tariff: Produce in China for $40, sell in the US for $150, make $110.
With 25% tariff: Produce in China for $40, pay $10 in US tariff, sell in US for $150, make $100.
And in case your next trick is to say something like "oh but Trump doesn't highlight how it was our own politicians who helped create this mess and is instead just blaming China", let's have a look at a recent press release from the Trump Whitehouse:
[QUOTE]Last night, President Donald J. Trump made clear whose side he is on everyday Americans, [B]not the globalist politicians who have spent decades selling out American workers to foreign countries.[/B]
[/QUOTE]
[URL="https://www.whitehouse.gov/articles/2025/04/icymi-president-trump-is-president-for-main-street-not-wall-street/"]https://www.whitehouse.gov/articles/2025/04/icymi-president-trump-is-president-for-main-street-not-wall-street/[/URL]
Re: How Trump outsmarted China
[QUOTE=ZenMaster;14992573]This probably takes the cake as the weirdest statement you've ever made trying to get a "win" on MAGA, like what in the actual **** lol.
The fact that past politicians sold out America for the benefit of corporations and Trump pointing out this over and over and over again, is why he was elected President. And you come here presenting it as an "unpleasant truth about America that MAGA don't want to recognize" :oldlol:
Do you understand that tariffs are a fee for companies to pay on the initial value of their imported product and not a fee for the Chinese govt?
Example:
Without tariff: Produce in China for $40, sell in the US for $150, make $110.
With 25% tariff: Produce in China for $40, pay $10 in US tariff, sell in US for $150, make $100.
And in case your next trick is to say something like "oh but Trump doesn't highlight how it was our own politicians who helped create this mess and is instead just blaming China", let's have a look at a recent press release from the Trump Whitehouse:
[URL="https://www.whitehouse.gov/articles/2025/04/icymi-president-trump-is-president-for-main-street-not-wall-street/"]https://www.whitehouse.gov/articles/2025/04/icymi-president-trump-is-president-for-main-street-not-wall-street/[/URL][/QUOTE]
Not to mention the vid TheMan posted at the 12:20 mark where he specifically highlighted, is a hired Chinese government operative who is trying to spread Chinese propaganda onto Americans. This was exposed in the vid I posted at the 8:17 mark. If he had the patience to watch my vid, he would have seen it. 5:15 mark in my vid is also eye opening.
Dude fell for Chinese propaganda. :lol
Re: How Trump outsmarted China
[QUOTE=ZenMaster;14992573]Example:
Without tariff: Produce in China for $40, sell in the US for $150, make $110.
With 25% tariff: Produce in China for $40, pay $10 in US tariff, sell in US for $150, make $100.
[/QUOTE]
The reality:
Without tariff: Produce in China for $40, sell in the US for $150, make $110.
With 25% tariff: Produce in China for $40, pay $10 in US tariff, sell in US for $160, make $110.
Re: How Trump outsmarted China
[QUOTE=Overdrive;14992600]The reality:
Without tariff: Produce in China for $40, sell in the US for $150, make $110.
With 25% tariff: Produce in China for $40, pay $10 in US tariff, sell in US for $160, make $110.[/QUOTE]
Solution:
Because of social media, the company is quickly outed for not wanting to produce in the US and instead hiking their prices. People start boycotting the company + the natural lower number of sales on a more expensive product, causing a 10% drop in sales and less profit for the company than just paying the tariff.
I bet you'd argue for higher corporate taxes overall, but the exact same argument of reality being price hikes for the end buyer can be made going that route.