so where are the epstein files?

[QUOTE=RRR3;15013923]You know full well everyone refers to Epstein as a pedophile, I'm not sure why you're pretending otherwise. From his wikipedia page:



I'm acting as if your world would be shattered because you're engaging in denial when plenty of other conservatives (including Doomsday Dallas) have acknowledged Trump seems to be a child predator.[/QUOTE]

How am I engaging in denial? Nothing has been proven whatsoever. Even if Musk wasn't lying or trolling, which he very well could have been, all he said was that Trump's name appeared in the files. He never said he was on Epstein's client list or that he took trips to the island. Otherwise his name could appear in the files for any number of reasons.

I wasn't referring to Epstein being a pedo, I was talking about his clients. It's not feasible to me that if there really was some grand scheme to blackmail powerful men that they would use 8-9 year olds as bait. That's an awfully big gamble.

[QUOTE=Baller234;15013925]How am I engaging in denial? Nothing has been proven whatsoever. Even if Musk wasn't lying or trolling, which he very well could have been, all he said was that Trump's name appeared in the files. He never said he was on Epstein's client list or that he took trips to the island. Otherwise his name could appear in the files for any number of reasons.

I wasn't referring to Epstein being a pedo, I was talking about his clients. It's not feasible to me that if there really was some grand scheme to blackmail powerful men that they would use 8-9 year olds as bait. That's an awfully big gamble.[/QUOTE]
Maybe Musk was lying or trolling, but it's pretty obvious he meant the list wasn't being released because it would greatly hurt Trump. You can do the math. Musk isn't trustworthy so you would normally have a point there but I remember you being very willing to give him the benefit of the doubt before this so.

[QUOTE=RRR3;15013926]Maybe Musk was lying or trolling, but it's pretty obvious he meant the list wasn't being released because it would greatly hurt Trump. You can do the math. Musk isn't trustworthy so you would normally have a point there but I remember you being very willing to give him the benefit of the doubt before this so.[/QUOTE]

[I]Time to drop the really big bomb. @realDonaldTrump is in the Epstein files. That is the real reason they have not been made public. Have a nice day, DJT![/I]

That was the tweet. Looks like he was very careful choosing his words if you ask me. "Trump is in the Epstein files" could mean any number of things. If he really had that kind of knowledge he could have been far more descriptive.

Do you think Musk even has access to that kind of information? If Musk knows exactly who Epstein's clients were and could prove it, why hasn't he?

[QUOTE=Baller234;15013931][I]Time to drop the really big bomb. @realDonaldTrump is in the Epstein files. That is the real reason they have not been made public. Have a nice day, DJT![/I]

That was the tweet. Looks like he was very careful choosing his words if you ask me. "Trump is in the Epstein files" could mean any number of things. If he really had that kind of knowledge he could have been far more descriptive.

Do you think Musk even has access to that kind of information? If Musk knows exactly who Epstein's clients were and could prove it, why hasn't he?[/QUOTE]
How would I know what Musk had access to? But he was in Trump's inner circle and had security clearance for a lot of stuff so would it shocked you if he read the files? How is Musk going to prove it if he doesn't have the files himself? Maybe Musk is lying, but you'd think Trump would just release them to shut him up if that were the case.

[QUOTE=RRR3;15013933]How would I know what Musk had access to? But he was in Trump's inner circle and had security clearance for a lot of stuff so would it shocked you if he read the files? How is Musk going to prove it if he doesn't have the files himself? Maybe Musk is lying, but you'd think Trump would just release them to shut him up if that were the case.[/QUOTE]

Trump wouldn't release them if he was beholden to someone on the list.

[QUOTE=Baller234;15013936]Trump wouldn't release them if he was beholden to someone on the list.[/QUOTE]
Who is Trump beholden to?

[QUOTE=RRR3;15013937]Who is Trump beholden to?[/QUOTE]

I wish I knew, but if he's obstructing the release of the files it means either he's implicated or someone he's beholden to is implicated.

Look at Brandon. As far as I know not a single person ever accused him of being an Epstein client yet during his entire tenure as president he made zero effort to uncover that stone. You weren't even allowed to [I]say[/I] the word "Epstein" around democrats.

Who was Brandon covering for?

[QUOTE=Baller234;15013943]I wish I knew, but if he's obstructing the release of the files it means either he's implicated or someone he's beholden to is implicated.

Look at Brandon. As far as I know not a single person ever accused him of being an Epstein client yet during his entire tenure as president he made zero effort to uncover that stone. You weren't even allowed to [I]say[/I] the word "Epstein" around democrats.

[B]Who was Brandon covering for?[/B][/QUOTE]
Probably himself as well as Bill Clinton. You really thought I was gonna be afraid to admit that lol? I know those guys are predators (since you don't like the term pedophile)

[QUOTE=RRR3;15013944]Probably himself as well as Bill Clinton. You really thought I was gonna be afraid to admit that lol? I know those guys are predators (since you don't like the term pedophile)[/QUOTE]

Not at all. That wasn't a "gotcha", it was a rhetorical question.

I'm saying you don't have to be an Epstein client in order to cover for an Epstein client.

Left minded posters when Baller talks about Brandon:

[IMG]https://media.tenor.com/WBSt2gcsNVMAAAAM/we-dont-care.gif[/IMG]

[SIZE=7][B]anyone know?[/B][/SIZE]

[IMG]https://media.tenor.com/kVrGzZGZnUUAAAAM/pulp-fiction-wtf.gif[/IMG]

[QUOTE=Baller234;15013943]I wish I knew, but if he's obstructing the release of the files it means either he's implicated or someone he's beholden to is implicated.

Look at Brandon. As far as I know not a single person ever accused him of being an Epstein client yet during his entire tenure as president he made zero effort to uncover that stone. You weren't even allowed to [I]say[/I] the word "Epstein" around democrats.

Who was Brandon covering for?[/QUOTE]

The third option is that there is a former President (Bill Clinton) on that list and other high-powered people on that list and Trump is either being instructed not to release it or realizes the level of damage it will do if it's released and chooses not to have it released. I'm thinking there are a lot more Democrats on that list than there are Republicans and a lot of leaders from other countries too. The fallout might be worse than just never releasing it and just realizing that Epstein took the coward's way out. For some reason, Maxwell is still in prison and hasn't had a deal offered yet. Maybe there is no list. Maybe she doesn't know shit.

[QUOTE=Patrick Chewing;15014154]The third option is that there is a former President (Bill Clinton) on that list and other high-powered people on that list and Trump is either being instructed not to release it or realizes the level of damage it will do if it's released and chooses not to have it released. I'm thinking there are a lot more Democrats on that list than there are Republicans and a lot of leaders from other countries too. The fallout might be worse than just never releasing it and just realizing that Epstein took the coward's way out. For some reason, Maxwell is still in prison and hasn't had a deal offered yet. Maybe there is no list. Maybe she doesn't know shit.[/QUOTE]
Why would Trump care about hurting Democrats?

[QUOTE=RRR3;15014179]Why would Trump care about hurting Democrats?[/QUOTE]

Come on man, you don't buy the theory that Trump has decided to leave himself in question in order to save the country from the insane damage caused by knowing Bill Clinton, who was in office 25 years ago and kicked out for a blow job, was on the Epstein list?

Imagine the chaos that would cause.

All the backflips, somersaults, and 1080 McTwists that MAGA is doing is hilarious :roll:

Trump is in like 800 pictures with Epstein, every Trump family member can be found on flight logs and his phone number book. They are known buddies. Trump has a history of cheating on his wife. And now we have his good buddy Elon Musk flat out saying that he is on the list. And still they are like "he's trying to save Bill Clinton" :oldlol:




Here is the REAL situation. The question is no longer "is Trump on there?" The question is now: "Does MAGA care that Trump is on there?"

And I think for most of MAGA, the answer to that question is "NO".