Re: Bill Burr calls out MAGA for being hateful low IQ racists
[QUOTE=RRR3;15006672]When did I condone anything? You'd get laughed at it in a court of law if you tried to argue like this. Your entire debating tactic is to just lie about what your opponent says, that's not how you win an argument. Respond to what I actually say without lying.[/QUOTE]
Okay so I am going to entertain your own analogy then:
Assume someone has brutally murdered your father and have kidnapped the rest your family. You don't know where they are being held and you have no way of finding the person responsible. You learn that it's payback for what your country did 70 years ago. Nothing personal against you, but they really despise your country so they are going to keep your family as hostages and do God knows what to them.
Tell us your wonderful plan to try and get them back.
Don't tell us what you wouldn't do, tell us what you WOULD do.
Re: Bill Burr calls out MAGA for being hateful low IQ racists
[QUOTE=Baller234;15006673]Okay so I am going to entertain your own analogy then:
Assume someone has brutally murdered your father and have kidnapped the rest your family. You don't know where they are being held and you have no way of finding the person responsible. You learn that it's payback for what your country did 70 years ago. Nothing personal against you, but they really despise your country so they are going to keep your family as hostages and do God knows what to them.
Tell us your wonderful plan to try and get them back.
Don't tell us what you wouldn't do, tell us what you WOULD do.[/QUOTE]
Still an incorrect analogy because you are now pretending Israel hasn't been continuously doing heinous stuff to Palestine. It didn't stop after the Nakba. Do your research. Again, two wrongs don't make a right, but you keep framing Palestine as the aggressor, which is disingenuous. Not to mention ignoring that Netanyahu funded Hamas because he knows they're psychos who will do stuff like this and give him an excuse for his evil deeds, while at the same time preventing left-wing Palestinian groups from gaining power.
As for your ridiculous analogy, unlike you I don't think I'm in an action movie, so I would try to get help but I certainly wouldn't be murdering people not involved. I'm not saying people who are families of the kidnapped don't have justifiable anger towards Hamas, I'm saying Hamas didn't start it and YOU keep claiming starting something gives someone the right to be evil. You said it, not me.
Re: Bill Burr calls out MAGA for being hateful low IQ racists
[QUOTE=RRR3;15006675]Still an incorrect analogy because you are now pretending Israel hasn't been continuously doing heinous stuff to Palestine. It didn't stop after the Nakba. Do your research. Again, two wrongs don't make a right, but you keep framing Palestine as the aggressor, which is disingenuous. Not to mention ignoring that Netanyahu funded Hamas because he knows they're psychos who will do stuff like this and give him an excuse for his evil deeds, while at the same time preventing left-wing Palestinian groups from gaining power.
As for your ridiculous analogy, unlike you I don't think I'm in an action movie, so I would try to get help but I certainly wouldn't be murdering people not involved. I'm not saying people who are families of the kidnapped don't have justifiable anger towards Hamas, I'm saying Hamas didn't start it and YOU keep claiming starting something gives someone the right to be evil. You said it, not me.[/QUOTE]
If two wrongs don't make a right that means both parties are to blame and you should be condemning both sides equally, but that's not the case. You're only interested in condemning Israel. When Israel does something wrong, it's Israel's fault. But when the other side does something wrong, it's still Israel's fault because they started it or they funded it. In other words Israel is always wrong no matter what and anything done in response is morally justified because Israel started it.
But why does it matter if "Israel started it" if two wrongs don't make a right? How is that relevant? Most of the power players involved are totally removed from the events that took place 70 years ago. And regardless, whatever happened... that doesn't justify the horrific acts on Oct 7th and it doesn't justify taking innocent hostages.
50 cent says in the song Heat:
[B]"If you were smart you'd be shook of me,
Cause I'll get tired of lookin for you
Spray your momma crib and let your ass look for me..."[/B]
In other words if you and me are at war, or you have my family hostage, and there's no one to help, best believe I'm gonna do whatever I can to smoke you out. I wouldn't kill your family right away but I'm definitely sending you that message. I'm saying "Hey 3tard I know you have my family if you don't give them up I'm going to hurt yours." At that point the ball is in your court. That is the price of war.
War is a very horrible, complex thing that takes new shape the longer it goes on. No one is ever truly innocent. All the world leaders have blood on their hands to some degree. Netanyahu is not special in that regard.
Re: Bill Burr calls out MAGA for being hateful low IQ racists
[QUOTE=Baller234;15006678]If two wrongs don't make a right that means both parties are to blame and you should be condemning both sides equally, but that's not the case. You're only interested in condemning Israel. When Israel does something wrong, it's Israel's fault. But when the other side does something wrong, it's still Israel's fault because they started it or they funded it. In other words Israel is always wrong no matter what and anything done in response is morally justified because Israel started it.
But why does it matter if "Israel started it" if two wrongs don't make a right? How is that relevant? Most of the power players involved are totally removed from the events that took place 70 years ago. And regardless, whatever happened... that doesn't justify the horrific acts on Oct 7th and it doesn't justify taking innocent hostages.
50 cent says in the song Heat:
[B]"If you were smart you'd be shook of me,
Cause I'll get tired of lookin for you
Spray your momma crib and let your ass look for me..."[/B]
In other words if you and me are at war, or you have my family hostage, and there's no one to help, best believe I'm gonna do whatever I can to smoke you out. I wouldn't kill your family right away but I'm definitely sending you that message. I'm saying "Hey 3tard I know you have my family if you don't give them up I'm going to hurt yours." At that point the ball is in your court. That is the price of war.
War is a very horrible, complex thing that takes new shape the longer it goes on. No one is ever truly innocent. All the world leaders have blood on their hands to some degree. Netanyahu is not special in that regard.[/QUOTE]
How many other world leaders are committing or have committed genocide? Serious question. Netanyahu is a special kind of evil. You really are waaaay out there if you can't acknowledge that.
Re: Bill Burr calls out MAGA for being hateful low IQ racists
[QUOTE=TheMan;15006812]How many other world leaders are committing or have committed genocide? Serious question. Netanyahu is a special kind of evil. You really are waaaay out there if you can't acknowledge that.[/QUOTE]
You wokesters don't have any solid ground to stand on so you just desparately shout "genocide" in the hopes of manipulating people's emotions. That's not what happening at all. But hey if you really want to play that game, you're standing up for the same people who chant "from the river to the sea.." So it's safe to say those people want Israel wiped off the map as well and doesn't think Israel has the right to exist. Is that not asking for genocide?
And if Netanyahu is a special kind of evil, what does that make Joe Biden and Kamala Harris? Their administration only further enabled him and did nothing while he committed "genocide". So why did you vote for a genocide enabler?
What does that make you?
Re: Bill Burr calls out MAGA for being hateful low IQ racists
[QUOTE=Baller234;15006831]You wokesters don't have any solid ground to stand on so you just desparately shout "genocide" in the hopes of manipulating people's emotions. That's not what happening at all. But hey if you really want to play that game, you're standing up for the same people who chant "from the river to the sea.." So it's safe to say those people want Israel wiped off the map as well and doesn't think Israel has the right to exist. Is that not asking for genocide?
And if Netanyahu is a special kind of evil, what does that make Joe Biden and Kamala Harris? Their administration only further enabled him and did nothing while he committed "genocide". So why did you vote for a genocide enabler?
What does that make you?[/QUOTE]
"from the river to the sea" in reference to what the libtards are screaming on the streets of america or in regard to the zionist version arguing for the same thing albeit in the other direction, that are actually applying and carrying it all out as we speak?
of which btw that phrase, from what i understand, originated from the talmud itself?
so let's not act like either side doesn't want the other wiped off the map.
Re: Bill Burr calls out MAGA for being hateful low IQ racists
[QUOTE=diamenz;15006840]"from the river to the sea" in reference to what the libtards are screaming on the streets of america or in regard to the zionist version arguing for the same thing albeit in the other direction, that are actually applying and carrying it all out as we speak?
of which btw that phrase, from what i understand, originated from the talmud itself?
so let's not act like either side doesn't want the other wiped off the map.[/QUOTE]
what WE should be concerned as, as americans, is what interest this serves for us? the answer is nothing. that's why israel needs to take care of their god damn selves.
Re: Bill Burr calls out MAGA for being hateful low IQ racists
[QUOTE=diamenz;15006840]"from the river to the sea" in reference to what the libtards are screaming on the streets of america or in regard to the zionist version arguing for the same thing albeit in the other direction, that are actually applying and carrying it all out as we speak?
of which btw that phrase, from what i understand, originated from the talmud itself?
so let's not act like either side doesn't want the other wiped off the map.[/QUOTE]
Okay so if they want to see Israel wiped off the map, why is all the criticism being hurled at Israel? Because they're winning? If the countries that surrounded Israel had the power and resources to remove them from the region, wouldn't they?
Regardless, it's fukking retarded to compare what goes on in war to actual murder. It's not an apples to apples comparison. You don't just get to simp for Luigi and then deflect from that by saying... "But Israel!"
There's no moral ambiguity when it comes to Luigi. Either he was hired to murder that man or did so of his own accord. He executed another human in the street. Not in the name of conflict or war. So there's really no excuse for anyone that defends him or tries to prop him up as some misunderstood hero.
Which is why Bill Burr is a scumbag loser.
Re: Bill Burr calls out MAGA for being hateful low IQ racists
[QUOTE=Baller234;15006831]You wokesters don't have any solid ground to stand on so you just desparately shout "genocide" in the hopes of manipulating people's emotions. That's not what happening at all. But hey if you really want to play that game, you're standing up for the same people who chant "from the river to the sea.." So it's safe to say those people want Israel wiped off the map as well and doesn't think Israel has the right to exist. Is that not asking for genocide?
And if Netanyahu is a special kind of evil, what does that make Joe Biden and Kamala Harris? Their administration only further enabled him and did nothing while he committed "genocide". So why did you vote for a genocide enabler?
What does that make you?[/QUOTE]
This is why i refuse to comment on this situation any further on this board. They do throw the word "genocide" out there in an attempt to shut you up.
You're literally arguing with neo-Nazis who hate Jews. It's not worth it.
Re: Bill Burr calls out MAGA for being hateful low IQ racists
[QUOTE=Baller234;15006869]Okay so if they want to see Israel wiped off the map, why is all the criticism being hurled at Israel? Because they're winning? If the countries that surrounded Israel had the power and resources to remove them from the region, wouldn't they?
Regardless, it's fukking retarded to compare what goes on in war to actual murder. It's not an apples to apples comparison. You don't just get to simp for Luigi and then deflect from that by saying... "But Israel!"
There's no moral ambiguity when it comes to Luigi. Either he was hired to murder that man or did so of his own accord. He executed another human in the street. Not in the name of conflict or war. So there's really no excuse for anyone that defends him or tries to prop him up as some misunderstood hero.
Which is why Bill Burr is a scumbag loser.[/QUOTE]
but you understand the difference in the power dynamic that i'm pointing out here, right?
Re: Bill Burr calls out MAGA for being hateful low IQ racists
[QUOTE=Patrick Chewing;15006871]This is why i refuse to comment on this situation any further on this board. They do throw the word "genocide" out there in an attempt to shut you up.
You're literally arguing with neo-Nazis who hate Jews. It's not worth it.[/QUOTE]
both sides can be accused to doing the same shit. pro-palestinians say the other side blames everything on hamas. pro-israel says the other side spouts "genocide". it works both ways. a lot of people just don't see it because you're too stuck in your bubbles and corners yelling without listening and unable to see things clearly. in order to see things clearly you need to be able to remove yourself from your bias and take an actual genuine intellectual interest in the subject. something most of us as humans are incapable of doing unfortunately. but credit to those that try.
Re: Bill Burr calls out MAGA for being hateful low IQ racists
[QUOTE=diamenz;15006903]but you understand the difference in the power dynamic that i'm pointing out here, right?[/QUOTE]
Who cares about power dynamics? War is war.
If two sides are at war then one side isn't automatically in the wrong just because they're more powerful and have more resources. They don't have an obligation to play nice and let the other side win.
Re: Bill Burr calls out MAGA for being hateful low IQ racists
Yes bawler Biden and Harris are also guilty of genocide. I didn’t vote for those idiots either so…
Re: Bill Burr calls out MAGA for being hateful low IQ racists
[QUOTE=Baller234;15006906][B]Who cares about power dynamics? War is war. [/B]
If two sides are at war then one side isn't automatically in the wrong just because they're more powerful and have more resources. They don't have an obligation to play nice and let the other side win.[/QUOTE]
you don't then.
alright. just forget about it.
Re: Bill Burr calls out MAGA for being hateful low IQ racists
[QUOTE=RRR3;15006908]Yes bawler Biden and Harris are also guilty of genocide. I didn’t vote for those idiots either so…[/QUOTE]
Are you kidding? Had The Cackler won the election, you would have been cheesing like a motherfukker.
You hate Orange Face with fury and passion. You were 100% cheering for The Cackler to win and there's zero doubt in my mind you went into a cold state of depression the night she lost.