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[QUOTE=Xiao Yao You;15041843]Cavs have picks? With lebron you get picks. Lakers have been saving their picks for the right player. Allen is that guy[/QUOTE]
Cavs can trade the same amount of picks as the Lakers. Lakers only have more swaps available.
[QUOTE=Real Men Wear Green;15041842]
If we see a James that gives good defense, 18 points, 8 boards and 8 assists and we also consider the financial benefit to the franchise Garland hunter and Ball world be a good deal for Cleveland. If course I can't promise that he's still got the ability to play great but if you believe he's still got something in the tank then he's worth it.[/QUOTE]
Even for this best hypothetical version of LeBron that does not suffer from chemistry issues, I think it would be fair to estimate that Hunter + Ball exceed the defensive ability of 41 year old Lebron, Hunter + Garland exceed the offensive output, and Garland + Ball exceed the passing.
And aggregating rotation players carries risk by itself, but the risk is too much to bear when you consider a 41 year old with back issues causing him to already miss several games is in the equation.
The problem is that people are talking about Lebron as if this was 6 years ago, where you could basically guarantee he would be ready for a playoff run. He could very well miss more time this year with this back issue.
Ball is barely an asset. He's severely flawed offensively and you are also worried about his ability to stay healthy.
Hunter is a good player but he did not have a good postseason and Cleveland could use another guy that can perform in the postseason. You have to load manage him all year but that's what James represents.
Forgot to mention: Celtics wouldn't trade White for Garland. The offensive upgrade comes with a defensive downgrade and the Celtics big step backwards this offseason was in large part due to the desire to save money. If they could accept that kind of contract they wouldn't have traded Holiday for Simons.
[QUOTE=beasted;15041848]Even for this best hypothetical version of LeBron that does not suffer from chemistry issues, I think it would be fair to estimate that Hunter + Ball exceed the defensive ability of 41 year old Lebron, Hunter + Garland exceed the offensive output, and Garland + Ball exceed the passing.
And aggregating rotation players carries risk by itself, but the risk is too much to bear when you consider a 41 year old with back issues causing him to already miss several games is in the equation.
The problem is that people are talking about Lebron as if this was 6 years ago, where you could basically guarantee he would be ready for a playoff run. He could very well miss more time this year with this back issue.[/QUOTE]
He could. You roll the dice for a chance at a title. Have no chance now
[QUOTE=Real Men Wear Green;15041852]
Forgot to mention: Celtics wouldn't trade White for Garland. The offensive upgrade comes with a defensive downgrade and the Celtics big step backwards this offseason was in large part due to the desire to save money. If they could accept that kind of contract they wouldn't have traded Holiday for Simons.[/QUOTE]
I don't want to get bogged down further in hypotheticals, but there are plenty of teams hungry for a PG... Houston, Milwaukee, Minnesota, etc. who knows what a multi team package could net the Celtics.