NBA has suspended Gilbert Arenas indefinitely until investigation ends

[QUOTE=SAKOTXA]So this is basically like Chris Andersen's suspension?[/QUOTE]
Possibly, but I would bet the farm on him coming back in any capacity.

Dude did the ultimate no-no.

People in here defending him have no concept of consequences.

Arenas is going to see jail time and will lose all of the remainder of his contract, bank on that.

This is D.C. and the owner of the team (RIP) changed the name of the team from the Bullets to the Wizrds, just to get away from the gunplay perception.

The guns weren't registered and they were placed in his locker which is in direct violation of his contract and the collective bargaining agreement. The front office isn't standing by him and the PA would be fools to go near him.

He has acted like a classless jerk about the seriousness of the situation and doesn't deserve to benefit from this.

[QUOTE=SAKOTXA]So how long do you guys think his suspension is going to be?[/QUOTE]
Probably a year or so.

[QUOTE=niko]yes, i would. i more than likely would have charges brought against me too. my friend is in sanitation. it says IN the city contracts no weapons at work. you'd be fired for a threatening looking knife.
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A threatening looking knife? Huh?

If you really think that he will be hit with 3 felonies, then I guess we will have to wait and see. It's going to be interesting.

[QUOTE=thejumpa]Sexual harassment can't lead to jail time?

Supposedly, the locker was locked. Everything else you said could have happened whether guns were there or not. Also, both of us have NO idea who was threatened. Hell, we don't know if it happened at all.

BTW...I'm not from the suburbs. Gun play is nothing new to me. I agree with you that concealed pistols in public is never a good idea, though. Dude is a clown. That being said, if I were him (or any famous celebrity/athlete), I'd have a gun, too. 4? IDK about that...[/QUOTE]

i have HAD a gun before. With a permit. and IN THE HOUSE. You keep it in the house because you can't bring it outside. if someone said "im going to kill your wife" then i'd take it outside the house to protect her. (If you want to know why i don't have it anymore, the laws changed, you need a range permit now, and i can't afford that reasonably, plus we live in a much safer neighborhood)

And Arena - He took it to work! For no reason. And then he showed it to a teammate, which to be honest sounds either stupid or like he was trying to be intimidating. And this is a guy who could afford bodyguards. Chauffers. BRINGING THE WHOLE ****ING CLUB TO HIS HOUSE if he wanted.

And Sexual harrasment very rarely leads to jail time. I've seen people not even get fired for bull**** that i think they should have been dragged outside and beaten for and then fired. :confusedshrug:

when i say more serious i mean legally, not morally.

[QUOTE=thejumpa]A threatening looking knife? Huh?

If you really think that he will be hit with 3 felonies, then I guess we will have to wait and see. It's going to be interesting.[/QUOTE]

He's going to get indicted on 1 case of illegal possesion for each gun, and all are felonies. he can plead down, but the indictment will be a few felonies - that's what he is accused of/

[QUOTE=thejumpa]A threatening looking knife? Huh?

If you really think that he will be hit with 3 felonies, then I guess we will have to wait and see. It's going to be interesting.[/QUOTE]

if i pulled out a big knife to show you at my job, and showed the wrong person, there is definite potential of being fired.

Being a Wizards fan also an NBA fan makes this all so upsetting to me. Just hard to understand Gil's actions.

[QUOTE=niko]i have HAD a gun before. With a permit. and IN THE HOUSE. You keep it in the house because you can't bring it outside. if someone said "im going to kill your wife" then i'd take it outside the house to protect her. (If you want to know why i don't have it anymore, the laws changed, you need a range permit now, and i can't afford that reasonably, plus we live in a much safer neighborhood)

And Arena - He took it to work! For no reason. And then he showed it to a teammate, which to be honest sounds either stupid or like he was trying to be intimidating. And this is a guy who could afford bodyguards. Chauffers. BRINGING THE WHOLE ****ING CLUB TO HIS HOUSE if he wanted.

And Sexual harrasment very rarely leads to jail time. I've seen people not even get fired for bull**** that i think they should have been dragged outside and beaten for and then fired. :confusedshrug:

when i say more serious i mean legally, not morally.[/QUOTE]

Well, he DID take it to work for a reason. It was a lame ass reason, I'll agree...but he did say it was because of his kids being born:confusedshrug:

Bodyguards don't always do the job. If someone wants to get at you, they will. Bodyguard or not. He should have had some anyway, though. Sometimes people feel better with the gun actually on them. If I were him, I know I would. You probably would too.

I'm not even trying to defend Arenas, because he was being an idiot. I'm just not trying to jump to conclusions as no one knows the whole story, yet. Hopefully you understand that.

[quote=niko]From a legal site
"Depending on what facts are discovered in other interviews with possible witnesses to the Dec. 21 locker room confrontation between Arenas and previously obscure guard Javaris Crittenton, the official said one likely outcome would be the following: Arenas, 27, would be permitted to plead guilty to charges of carrying a pistol without a license, a felony that carries a maximum of five years in prison. Such a charge would require a grand jury indictment, which could be acquired quickly since five grand juries are seated at any given time in the District. Any other charges -- which could include misdemeanor counts for possession of unregistered firearms, carrying maximum jail time of six months for each count -- would be dismissed. In exchange for Arenas' cooperation and guilty plea, the prosecutor would ask for no jail time."

"Given his prior offense, however, a judge might consider jail time in this case," one of the law enforcement officials said. "It all depends on which judge he draws." Arenas pleaded guilty to charges of failing to maintain proper registration of a firearm in California in 2003 while playing for the Golden State Warriors."

So it has potential of 5 to 6 years with a hardass judge (and he already has embarassed the city, etc.) or nothing IF he gets lucky and they ignore a prior charge also related to guns.

This is serious. If some of you don't think it's a big deal, your opinion is noted, but when a situation outside your control now threatens to put you in jail, it is probably serious.[/quote]So, it is different than in New York, where Plax got mandatory jail time. I am sure that Gilbert has already spoken with legal counsel about this, but he needs to stop f'ing around, and take things seriously. The latest garbage in pre game shows that he still had no idea how serious this is about to get.

[QUOTE=ShabbaWiz]Being a Wizards fan also an NBA fan makes this all so upsetting to me. Just hard to understand Gil's actions.[/QUOTE]

There is nothing to understand there, I'm afraid.

He didn't do it because he was thinking something special. He did it because he is someone who refuses to think. He comes accross as a person mentally capable of making use of cognitive functions, but for some reason he thinks things need to be said and done in a 'genuine' way that is also your first reaction. The guy is 'honest' and being dumb on purpose.

He thinks it is nice to show in a professional organization that you are 'different'. Well, being different is fine if you ask me, but if you want to be different you will have to do it somewhere else because the company is not going to tolerate that.

It is perfectly fine to refuse growing up, but you have to pay the price of being dealed with like a child as a result.

It's rather hilarious how throughout his whole career we've been saying "man, if only he could stay away from injuries and stay on the court." Now the one time he's actually healthy, this happens :roll:

What a chump, he had it coming. The league is better without him.

this is a good article about the contract status
[url]http://nba.fanhouse.com/2010/01/06/arenas-suspension-could-save-wizards-5-million-this-season/[/url]

[QUOTE=ElPigto][url]http://sports.espn.go.com/nba/news/story?id=3473164[/url][/QUOTE]

lmao i would of taken that 127 mil...

[quote=Glide2keva]The guns weren't registered and they were placed in his locker which is in direct violation of his contract and the collective bargaining agreement. The front office isn't standing by him and the PA[/quote]The PA is going to back him on this for sure. The WORST thing that could happen to the PA is having the contract voided. That sets a precedent that the PA will avoid at all costs.

My guess is that we will see a faux buyout, where the amount is not reported, or both sides will just agree to walk away.

I really hope the Wiz can void his contract. We can miss the playoffs perfectly fine without you, Gilbert.

this topic should be prly be stickied

This is the only thing that David Stern ever got right in his entire career.

[QUOTE=godofgods]This is the only thing that David Stern ever got right in his entire career.[/QUOTE]

What about the Artest incident...he was more than looney then...

[QUOTE=The_Yearning]What about the Artest incident...he was more than looney then...[/QUOTE]

He didn't get that one right. He should've banned BOTH Ben Wallace and Ron Artest FOR LIFE.

[QUOTE=niko]if i pulled out a big knife to show you at my job, and showed the wrong person, there is definite potential of being fired.[/QUOTE]
I've fired someone for pulling a big knife at work to show it to someone else. Brandishing a weapon, can't have that in the workplace. The guy filed for unemployment and lost. No criminal charges or anything, but just having the weapons at work is grounds for termination virtually anywhere except Dunder Mifflin.

wasnt able to post in this thread all day.

just want to say that gilbert has gotta be the dumbest mofo out there. i'm not even talking about the gun stuff, i'm talking about the way he's handled things since. wtf was dude thinking last night? stern had no choice but to suspend him today. its no coincidence.

[QUOTE=thejumpa]Who cares. This is what should have happened, anyway.

Still $80M strong.....you think he gives a **** right now?[/QUOTE]


You're incredibly naive, young, or just outright stupid.

80 million will not last forever, especially when its in the hands of such a foolish person.



[url]http://sportsillustrated.cnn.com/vault/article/magazine/MAG1153364/index.htm[/url]

[QUOTE=KAJ=GOAT]You're incredibly naive, young, or just outright stupid.

80 million will not last forever, especially when its in the hands of such a foolish person.



[url]http://sportsillustrated.cnn.com/vault/article/magazine/MAG1153364/index.htm[/url][/QUOTE]

Unless Arenas has some incredibly stupid spending habits, $80M will last a longggggggg time. No offense, but trying to tell anyone the opposite is stupid.

[QUOTE=thejumpa]Unless Arenas has some incredibly stupid spending habits, $80M will last a longggggggg time. No offense, but trying to tell anyone the opposite is stupid.[/QUOTE]
No it's not stupid to think at all.

That 80 million is a figure before taxes are taken into consideration.

Then you have Athletes constantly spending money not only on themselves but on others. They make dumb investments maybe on a business or a stock and they lose lots of cash. They think their money never runs out. MAny can run into problems with the IRS. Also paying taxes on property when you buy properrty worth millions is crazy.

Does the NBA have a financial counselor program? That would help like crazy.

[QUOTE=thejumpa]Unless Arenas has some incredibly stupid spending habits, $80M will last a longggggggg time. No offense, but trying to tell anyone the opposite is stupid.[/QUOTE]
Look at Arenas's actions over the past month and his general behavior since hitting the spotlight. He's already got a pretty obvious gambling problem. Can you seriously tell me with a straight face that you think Gilbert isn't capable of having incredibly stupid spending habits?

Of all current NBA players, Gilbert is at (or near) the top of the list of players I'd assume will be broke 5 years after they're out of the NBA.

D-Rose, I see what you're saying....but it's a bit premature to assume that $80M (We'll say 40-50 after taxes) won't last Arenas a long time. Don't ya think?

I mean, we don't know anything about what he does in his personal life, except that he likes guns lol. Not only that, but not every athlete blows their money. Especially if they are making $16M, made a lot before this contract, and have had no history of bad spending habits. I'd rather not stereotype.

[QUOTE=Farrakhan]da hole ting be rasist. It cus he blak[/QUOTE]

Wow, you spelled two words right. Congrats - gold star for you my friend.

[QUOTE=The_Yearning][B]damn are you stupid?[/B] without pay means the guy that was paying you stopped paying you...so in this case it would be the owner...seriously...[/QUOTE]


Its sad isn't it?

People really are, that stupid.

[QUOTE=craiye]Look at Arenas's actions over the past month and his general behavior since hitting the spotlight. He's already got a pretty obvious gambling problem. Can you seriously tell me with a straight face that you think Gilbert isn't capable of having incredibly stupid spending habits?

Of all current NBA players, Gilbert is at (or near) the top of the list of players I'd assume will be broke 5 years after they're out of the NBA.[/QUOTE]

Gambling problem? Explain....

He will be broke after 5 years? :oldlol: It's obvious you don't know what you are talking about...at all.

[QUOTE=bagelred]People think bringing an unloaded gun into the arena is worse than sexual harassment? WTF?????[/QUOTE]


You go to your job, or school,
lay 3 guns down on a table, get into an argument with someone.


Then see what happens.

You, are incredibly funking stupid if you don't realize the severity of the issue at hand. Whats next?

Putting guns in their waistbands for games?

"Its not loaded, I don't see what the big deal is".


Your mother should have swallowed you.

[QUOTE=thejumpa]Gambling problem? Explain....

He will be broke after 5 years? :oldlol: It's obvious you don't know what you are talking about...at all.[/QUOTE]
Maybe the NY Post is full of it, but there have been many reports saying that this whole thing with Critt was due to Gilbert backing out a gambling debt.

The going broke after 5 years is from an SI article a few months back about how many athletes go broke within a few years of retirement - it was a huge percentage of NBA players. I'll find a link and post it.

Just look at Antoine Walker - dude is already broke. I'd say Gilbert's IQ is about on the same level.

[QUOTE=thejumpa]Unless Arenas has some incredibly stupid spending habits, $80M will last a longggggggg time. No offense, but trying to tell anyone the opposite is stupid.[/QUOTE]

Of course the guy has stupid spending habits. He's an idiot afterall. Latrell Sprewell blew through more than that. Last we heard they were foreclosing on his houses and repo'ing car and yachts. Tyson blew through 300 million. Besides Arenas isn't likely to see very much of that 80 mil, and he will never land an elite level contact again.

The sad thing is both he and you don't know how badly he dont effed up his life the last few days.

[QUOTE=thejumpa]Gambling problem? Explain....

He will be broke after 5 years? :oldlol: It's obvious you don't know what you are talking about...at all.[/QUOTE]

Here's the SI link:

[url]http://sportsillustrated.cnn.com/vault/article/magazine/MAG1153364/index.htm[/url]

[QUOTE]Within five years of retirement, an estimated 60% of former NBA players are broke.[/QUOTE]

Much more if you click the link.

[QUOTE=thejumpa]Unless Arenas has some incredibly stupid spending habits, $80M will last a longggggggg time. No offense, but trying to tell anyone the opposite is stupid.[/QUOTE]


Your dumbass didn't even read the article.

I know its a bit long for someone of your caliber, but really,

you should at least try.

[QUOTE=craiye]Maybe the NY Post is full of it, but there have been many reports saying that this whole thing with Critt was due to Gilbert backing out a gambling debt.

The going broke after 5 years is from an SI article a few months back about how many athletes go broke within a few years of retirement - it was a huge percentage of NBA players. I'll find a link and post it.

Just look at Antoine Walker - dude is already broke. I'd say Gilbert's IQ is about on the same level.[/QUOTE]

No need to find the link. I believe I have seen that article and lot of it is true. Doesn't mean that it applies to everyone, though. Aside from Antoine Walker, who apparently really did have a gambling problem, which superstar NBA player have you heard of going broke?

The guy has made TONS of money up until now, we hear 1 story about him not wanting to pay a gambling debt, and you assume he has a problem? Come on, man....

[QUOTE=chazzy][IMG]http://img22.imageshack.us/img22/9690/gilbertarenas0110580.jpg[/IMG]

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:lol :hammerhead:

He should be suspended for severely or even BANNED from NBA to set example of consequences to discourage others from even thinking of doing that **** again.

I hope Javaris Crittenton sued Arenas azz off for tons of $.

[QUOTE=kobesabi]He should be suspended for severely or even BANNED from NBA to set example of consequences to discourage others from even thinking of doing that **** again.

I hope Javaris Crittenton sued Arenas azz off for tons of $.[/QUOTE]

Banned? For real?

Even if he was, he would probably make 30 million a year playing for Olympiacos and live like a King.

[QUOTE=phoenix18]Banned? For real?

Even if he was, he would probably make 30 million a year playing for Olympiacos and live like a King.[/QUOTE]

If he gets charged and convicted of a felony, he might not be able to get a visa to work overseas.

[QUOTE=thejumpa]No need to find the link. I believe I have seen that article and lot of it is true. Doesn't mean that it applies to everyone, though. Aside from Antoine Walker, who apparently really did have a gambling problem, which superstar NBA player have you heard of going broke?

The guy has made TONS of money up until now, we hear 1 story about him not wanting to pay a gambling debt, and you assume he has a problem? Come on, man....[/QUOTE]

not broke from gambling, but there is actually a good percentage of nba players who lose most if not all of their money after retirement. i don't remember the pct but it was a "you have to be ****ing kidding" kind of percentage. we are picking on the nba but its not just them, its all athletes.