Things you learned from experience during a game

Update on recovering: Honestly I have been doing everything I have been doing before except without the basketball training and tennis. I'll start doing some stretches every hour when I'm on the computer. Life seems so boring without basketball. Nothing to look forward to after finishing my classes. Nothing to look forward to after I finish my hw. It's like I'm wasting away.

Also, the basketball instructional videos you see selling for like $40 don't really help you. Just find some websites or videos on youtube, and I'll swear you'll get just as much info and you won't waste your time.

So I learned a difficult lesson in teamwork yesterday through 2-on-2 basketball.
Went to the gym, met 3 guys who wanted to run a quick game so I joined them. We decided that the first 2 guys to make a 3-pter would be on the same team. I ended up playing with a dude who seemed to have decent ball handling skills, much better than mine actually.
The opposition? Two 40+ year old men. I thought, "This is going to be easy. We're definitely much quicker than them."
Boy, was I wrong. I mean, we were quicker than them but that's where it stops.
The old guys were setting up screens, pick and rolls, pass-and-go, etc. My teammate? Every time I passed him the damn ball, he'd chuck a shot. He didn't make a single point! We got killed, 3-15. I made all 3 shots, after pretty much refusing to pass this idiot the ball. I asked him to start setting picks but he just stuck around the 3-pt line to chuck as many pointless 3's as possible.
His defense was terrible as well. The guys took turns shredding his D apart. I might as well have been playing one-vs-two. :rolleyes:

Anyway, my point is that you shouldn't judge a player by the first shot made. I assumed that because he and I both made our first attempts to become teammates for the game, it must mean we could take the older guys on without a problem. Next time, I'll be sure to try to aim being a teammate with someone older who has experience in playing basketball, instead of teaming up with some idiot who would rather chuck from out of his range than set up plays. :facepalm

I realized...that a lot of basketball 'knowledge' is wrong. That look at the hips stuff is garbage, does anyone truly do this? You can't pay attention at all to what is going on in the game if you are focusing on the O players hips. Coaches when you are young always say don't focus on their eyes, or don't focus on the ball you can get tricked by them. I realized in so many years of playing that there are very very very very few players talented enough to trick me with their eyes or their ball handling. I get 2-3 steals a game person on person because I watch where they are dribbling the ball and when they do a slow dribble down I time it to reach in and take it away. Same with the eyes...I watch their eyes to see where and when they will pass it and can jump the passing lane easily.

Another one, don't make crosscourt passes. That only applies when you are too young to actually MAKE a crosscourt pass at full speed. As a grown adult I can zip that pass crosscourt one handed with a lot of speed. It's the best way to open up against a team when they are overplaying too much since they can't recover to that player that fast.

Another one: Focusing on the front/back rim (based on what your coach said). Every time I try thinking about WHERE on the rim I want to shoot it messes up my shot. I find it a lot more important to make sure I have my hands on the ball properly and everything after that is just body memory. Thinking about an individual thing like aiming for the back of the rim is ridiculous...shooting it the right distance comes from practice not from individually thinking about it every time.

I understand these things where all important to be taught as a youngsta so you start with good habits and then you can expand your game based on experience. I teach the same things when I coach also. It's just interesting seeing how many of the common 'tenets' really aren't true when you get to a certain level.

i learn that i dribble like an 80's player when dribbling and running

and i feel comfortable in my dribbling. and i learn i have inconsistent shooting form.

[QUOTE=KokoWarzone]i learn that i dribble like an 80's player when dribbling and running

and i feel comfortable in my dribbling. and i learn i have inconsistent shooting form.[/QUOTE]

Same here. :lol
I always dribble toward a defender with my back to him. I don't mind doing it so much, but it makes it seem like I lack handles. I don't have great ball handling skills but I'm decent, if I'd say so myself.
As for my shot, whenever I'm going for a J, I jump forward. I've stepped on a few people's feet or kicked a couple guys in the shin before because of this. :banghead: My form is always inconsistent and no matter how hard I try to work at improving it, I always lose the perfect form whenever I play 21 or a pickup game.

[QUOTE=Scholar]Same here. :lol
I always dribble toward a defender with my back to him. I don't mind doing it so much, but it makes it seem like I lack handles. I don't have great ball handling skills but I'm decent, if I'd say so myself.
As for my shot, whenever I'm going for a J, I jump forward. I've stepped on a few people's feet or kicked a couple guys in the shin before because of this. :banghead: My form is always inconsistent and no matter how hard I try to work at improving it, I always lose the perfect form whenever I play 21 or a pickup game.[/QUOTE]




man i'm in the same situation as you like everytime i play pickup game my shot is mess up.

Well, I feel my wrists are getting better from a brace I got yesterday. I put it on for just one night, so I'm not really sure. Tried playing basketball for the first time after 3 weeks and I felt really weak. I could barely catch a ball, I couldn't shoot farther than 15 feet, and when I tried to shotfake, I let go of the ball.
I am interested in the comment Swaggin916 made.
[QUOTE=Swaggin916]If you are more of role player, you are always going to have those games where you don't get a lot of touches or do much to effect the game... sometimes it works out that way and it is frustrating when you lose. If you win... there is always another game.

So... either you can continue to be a role player and be frustrated sometimes... or you can start taking the steps toward becoming the focal point of a team AKA the main ball handler... and that takes a lot of practice. I know for me, I was never comfortable being the main ball handler for a while... I'd get on a team that wasn't very good or just didn't have anybody that could handle the ball real well and make plays... and I'd want to do it, but I just wasn't good enough. Now, I have the ability to do it because I've practiced, studied the game, and now am confident enough in my ability to beat defenders and make good decisions. You are still going to have bad games, but at least you know it's on you and maybe sometime during that game you start deferring to others because you are having a bad game... trust me, it's better than having an uneventful game as a role player.

From experience tho... like these guys have been saying, going for offensive boards, cutting... just hustling your ass off... you rarely ever have those uneventful games because you are constantly in the mix. For me... I haven't been able to do any of that due to injury. When I play, I'm either the main ball handler (and just basically the guy who brings it up court and tries to set people up without doing anything too strenuous) or simply being a spot up shooter. Being a spot up shooter is the worst cus every other game can be uneventful.[/QUOTE]

I feel like I should become this player. I swear out of all the freshmen, sophomores, and juniors I see playing outside, there are only 3 of them. I must strive to become that guy. The group I play with in basketball are a bunch of role players. Through the training I did before I was injured, I know I'm ready. The only freshmen who's that guy just told me to "let them do their thing". Sometimes he has like 8 turnovers in a pick up game, but he just makes it seem like he never had a turnover. I need advice from other players, but would be awesome if Swaggin came since he's an example of one.

I thought about what I said about being that player and it's just being a point guard haha. I'm going to start weight training this Friday along with skill training tomorrow again. I feel excited and filled with energy to start practicing. I also got a guide I'll follow for my shooting training from a certain orange a certain guy. Time to put in work again weee. Also during the time of me not spending my time in basketball, I got a job which will allow me to pay for a new hoop at home in my backyard(got broken from being used) and one of those nets that give the ball back to me from a miss or make. It's really going to accelerate my shooting and give me an edge so a yeah. Got everything all planned and it's going perfectly with a few minor nuisances(like my injury that stopped me from practicing these last 4 weeks lol).

getting to your spot....

i use to think I can score from anywhere and that becus i have a good jumper i can pull that trigger from anywhere...

wrong...

I know my game better now, left elbow around freethrow line and a foot out is practically 90% for me. I can do all sorts there, step back, fade away, jumper, hesistation pull up, it just goes in.

Consequently baseline jumpers = 60%...

:rolleyes:

Just the way it is...

Yea baseline jumpers are harder. You just don't get very many of them so game experience is hard to come by.

Practice has been going good lately. It changed from me doing 1/5 of it in 2 hours to 2/5 of it in 2 hours in a week. It seems that the competition is getting worse at the playground blacktops at my school, so the group that I run with has to find better competition at a park or something.

Something I found out: It seems that the best competition for me is in high school games. In the playground black tops, the competition isn't that much and is not serious and in the parks that I play at, I don't have enough athleticism and skills yet to match with the 20-30 year olds(I think I'll be able to run with them with them accepting me as a fellow basketball player instead of a random kid after I get enough athleticism by the end of june to dunk on their court haha).

I'm going to stop doing Vertical Jump Bible and move on to The Jump Manual next week. I should have done more with the Vertical Jump Bible, but the past is past. Training is going good so far. It's starting to get somewhat boring though lol. A guy tried doing my training for an hour and he just went nuts and started doing something else.

[QUOTE=bobbyflay]I'm going to stop doing Vertical Jump Bible and move on to The Jump Manual next week. I should have done more with the Vertical Jump Bible, but the past is past. Training is going good so far. It's starting to get somewhat boring though lol. A guy tried doing my training for an hour and he just went nuts and started doing something else.[/QUOTE]

You should at least finish the program... take a break and then start something else. The key to getting gains after the first month is consistency and simply switching up exercises.

[QUOTE=Swaggin916]You should at least finish the program... take a break and then start something else. The key to getting gains after the first month is consistency and simply switching up exercises.[/QUOTE]


Well I completed the first phase of the novice strength training and I'm also need 3 more weeks to complete all 4 phases of the bodyweight strength training. It's just that I got the PDF only and it really doesn't seem that helpful. I'm happy with the results from just 6 months(added posting to my game), but I am limited in time(will be joining basketball team in summer and practice is around july and will train my endurance in the summer). The Jump Manual takes 12 weeks so If I buy it next week or so I'll still have an extra week of weight training and testing out things(I'm assuming that there will be 3 weeks of training and 1 week of resting on each phase). Also, I'll won't be able to do any vertical jump training from the start of july to may next year. Then for the rest of my 3 years, I'll only have may and june to do personal training. I just have to do this..

[QUOTE=bobbyflay]Well I completed the first phase of the novice strength training and I'm also need 3 more weeks to complete all 4 phases of the bodyweight strength training. It's just that I got the PDF only and it really doesn't seem that helpful. I'm happy with the results from just 6 months(added posting to my game), but I am limited in time(will be joining basketball team in summer and practice is around july and will train my endurance in the summer). The Jump Manual takes 12 weeks so If I buy it next week or so I'll still have an extra week of weight training and testing out things(I'm assuming that there will be 3 weeks of training and 1 week of resting on each phase). Also, I'll won't be able to do any vertical jump training from the start of july to may next year. Then for the rest of my 3 years, I'll only have may and june to do personal training. I just have to do this..[/QUOTE]


One thing to take into account is that since you have been training your vert the jump manual will not be as effective for you as it would a beginner.

Playing point guard can be quite fun, i've always predominantly more of a shooting guard because i have a decent shot and can penetrate and finish well inside and usually play alongside others who will drive and dish.

It was only last week when i was playing with a team of players who aren't all that good at creating their own shot or penetrating the defence that i started to drive more often because i had the ball more often and pulled a few nice passes while i was at it and i gotta say the feeling you get when you make a great pass is something i could get used to:D

[QUOTE=KokoWarzone]man i'm in the same situation as you [B]like everytime i play pickup game my shot is mess up.[/B][/QUOTE]

this!

I thought the opposite was true.

[QUOTE=01amberfirewv]One thing to take into account is that since you have been training your vert the jump manual will not be as effective for you as it would a beginner.[/QUOTE]

[QUOTE=bobbyflay]I thought the opposite was true.[/QUOTE]

You always make the greatest gains when you first start. The fact that you have already been training your vert means that gains will come slower.

[QUOTE=Swaggin916]You always make the greatest gains when you first start. The fact that you have already been training your vert means that gains will come slower.[/QUOTE]

dam, that sucks. I thought I was still considered a beginner, because my vertical for 1 legged jumping, 2 legged jumping, and standing still jumping is almost the same(got it from the Vertical Jump Bible)

Hey guys back i have a question. What barbell exercises is use to strengthen the whole body and core?

Lots of exercises. Just google it :O Ex. Deadlifts/Squats

This diet I'm following from the Jump Manual is..I don't know lol. I'm drinking 12-16 cups of water a day. Eating a whole lot more then I usually do. It's making me more lean though. From 4 days of drinking protein powder, I could dunk on a rim that is 1 inch higher, 9'2. It's weak dunks so I still need 10-12 more inches. If all goes well, I'll make a video on youtube on July 4 of me dunking.

On player improvement, I'm just spending this week on observing certain people play to see their tendencies. I want to fully heal my wrist by not playing basketball/use computer alot and just sleep this week.

Random Quote that Makes me Happy Again: "When I become sad, I become awesome"- Some guy from How I Met Your Mother

How rewarding it is to be able to finish with both hands, had another lefty and1 this past week and had another one which should've been an and1 but the ref missed the call, even the guy who fouled me admitted it shoulda been an and1:oldlol:

guys i have a question when shooting a jumpshot is it mostly balance and release? And another question how is it your first time playing in a league? is it physical?

[QUOTE=KokoWarzone]guys i have a question when shooting a jumpshot is it mostly balance and release? And another question how is it your first time playing in a league? is it physical?[/QUOTE]

Balance and release come into it but overall it is just repetition, you watch good shooters anywhere you go and their rhythm on every shot is always the same. When it comes to your first time playing in a league it can be overwhelming because teams are organised but it won't necessarily be more physical, physicality in a league comes down to how the refs ref the games and what becomes the norm. The league i'm in is rather physical but that's mainly because it's only a casual one and the refs sometimes let the game play i think:cheers:

This past week has been going good. I tried to rest my wrists again by just training my hook shots of my left hand. I ended up training both lol. Now I have a nasty right hand hook shot. It also helped me finish without a backboard also. I also find out that my guide hand was keeping my shooting hand from getting power. I could stand under the basket on the other side of the court and jump and shoot with a push and hit the backboard of the other side, yet I didn't have enough power to shoot a free throw.

Trying to bully your way in the paint when you're 5'9", 155 pounds can hurt a shitload.

I was attacking the rim and I tried to split two defender with a eurostep and got tripped up and hit the damn pole.

[QUOTE=AJ2k8]How rewarding it is to be able to finish with both hands, had another lefty and1 this past week and had another one which should've been an and1 but the ref missed the call, even the guy who fouled me admitted it shoulda been an and1:oldlol:[/QUOTE]
To spring off of that point, I actually learned the opposite from experience during a game. Through my youth it had [i]always[/i] been stressed that the right hand was used on the right side of the court and the left hand on the left side of the court.

I am an above average one foot jumper off my strong (left) foot. I am a below average jumper off my right foot. Further, my left hand was never as strong as my right. So, that meant I was soaring to the basket when attacking with my right hand and sort of plodding when I attacked off one foot from the left side of the court. As a freshman, if I tried using my right hand from the left side on a fast break, my coach would let me have it.

Weirdly, after watching a lot of Grant Hill (Pistons Grant) and Latrell Sprewell I noticed they often attacked with their right hand regardless of their positioning on the court. It seemed to allow a lot more maneuverability. I gave this a try in games and never looked back. I will use my right hand whenever humanly possible. Jumping off my strong foot and using the hand I was born to use increases my threat level toward the opponent by about 74%. I keep the left hand in my back pocket for two-foot attacks from interesting angles where only a left would make sense (and on reverse layups coming from right to left).

Moral: I learned it's best to attack in a manner that's most comfortable for you and is most likely to result in a made basket. I cannot even begin to explain how many layups I didn't finish as a youth because I was just "trying to do the right thing" by going up with my left. The minute I turned a lot of those opportunities into strong attacks with my right, it all changed.

The thinking tends to be that using the right hand on the left side of the hoop means you're more likely to get your shot blocked. My personal experience is the control, agility, and movement gained from using your strong hand (and being able to dip, double clutch, or flip) far overrides the "shield" gained from using the left in a lot of cases. Again, the left is still there when I need it. I just don't need it as much as I ever thought I did.

Well, I noticed that I am tired from Tuesday-Friday due to vertical jump training. It seems that I sort of lose my basketball touch/feel and miss every shot and layup. I also feel groggy and stupid. I can't make any split second decisions during that time. Then on Saturday-Monday I feel renergized and make most of my shots. It's strange, because I basically lift once a week(Monday) and lift lightly on Wednesday and Friday due to PE. I hope this grogginess goes away once I get used to weight training. I also hope that the results won't stop coming this fast when I do though(got 2 inches and a half in 3 weeks so far). I'm trying to get back on track with basketball because I'm starting to sort of get disgusted with it(lots of drama in bball team and etc lol) and just playing casually. I still want to go for the dream of being a D1 player due to me making the decision with my heart, mind, and soul.

[QUOTE=Rake2204]To spring off of that point, I actually learned the opposite from experience during a game. Through my youth it had [i]always[/i] been stressed that the right hand was used on the right side of the court and the left hand on the left side of the court.

I am an above average one foot jumper off my strong (left) foot. I am a below average jumper off my right foot. Further, my left hand was never as strong as my right. So, that meant I was soaring to the basket when attacking with my right hand and sort of plodding when I attacked off one foot from the left side of the court. As a freshman, if I tried using my right hand from the left side on a fast break, my coach would let me have it.

Weirdly, after watching a lot of Grant Hill (Pistons Grant) and Latrell Sprewell I noticed they often attacked with their right hand regardless of their positioning on the court. It seemed to allow a lot more maneuverability. I gave this a try in games and never looked back. I will use my right hand whenever humanly possible. Jumping off my strong foot and using the hand I was born to use increases my threat level toward the opponent by about 74%. I keep the left hand in my back pocket for two-foot attacks from interesting angles where only a left would make sense (and on reverse layups coming from right to left).

Moral: I learned it's best to attack in a manner that's most comfortable for you and is most likely to result in a made basket. I cannot even begin to explain how many layups I didn't finish as a youth because I was just "trying to do the right thing" by going up with my left. The minute I turned a lot of those opportunities into strong attacks with my right, it all changed.

The thinking tends to be that using the right hand on the left side of the hoop means you're more likely to get your shot blocked. My personal experience is the control, agility, and movement gained from using your strong hand (and being able to dip, double clutch, or flip) far overrides the "shield" gained from using the left in a lot of cases. Again, the left is still there when I need it. I just don't need it as much as I ever thought I did.[/QUOTE]

I completely agree. I find that most of the time, when I attack left I have to make a quick decision how I want to finish. If I feel I can beat the help defender, I will almost always use my right hand. I can jump quicker off my left foot and finishing with my right makes the move faster. However it makes it easier to get blocked.

When I drive and attack left with contact, I always try and finish with my left hand. It feels much more natural now, I don't feel comfortable bringing the ball up with my right where my defender can strip it. Instead I always try and throw my body into theirs then finish left.

[QUOTE=KokoWarzone]Hey guys back i have a question. What barbell exercises is use to strengthen the whole body and core?[/QUOTE]


Cover 6 basic movements and you will work everything; overhead press, bench press, rows, squats Romanian deadlifts, and then throw in some pull ups. I tell my athletes to train those movements instead of focusing on muscle groups.

[QUOTE=Rake2204]To spring off of that point, I actually learned the opposite from experience during a game. Through my youth it had [i]always[/i] been stressed that the right hand was used on the right side of the court and the left hand on the left side of the court.

I am an above average one foot jumper off my strong (left) foot. I am a below average jumper off my right foot. Further, my left hand was never as strong as my right. So, that meant I was soaring to the basket when attacking with my right hand and sort of plodding when I attacked off one foot from the left side of the court. As a freshman, if I tried using my right hand from the left side on a fast break, my coach would let me have it.

Weirdly, after watching a lot of Grant Hill (Pistons Grant) and Latrell Sprewell I noticed they often attacked with their right hand regardless of their positioning on the court. It seemed to allow a lot more maneuverability. I gave this a try in games and never looked back. I will use my right hand whenever humanly possible. Jumping off my strong foot and using the hand I was born to use increases my threat level toward the opponent by about 74%. I keep the left hand in my back pocket for two-foot attacks from interesting angles where only a left would make sense (and on reverse layups coming from right to left).

Moral: I learned it's best to attack in a manner that's most comfortable for you and is most likely to result in a made basket. I cannot even begin to explain how many layups I didn't finish as a youth because I was just "trying to do the right thing" by going up with my left. The minute I turned a lot of those opportunities into strong attacks with my right, it all changed.

The thinking tends to be that using the right hand on the left side of the hoop means you're more likely to get your shot blocked. My personal experience is the control, agility, and movement gained from using your strong hand (and being able to dip, double clutch, or flip) far overrides the "shield" gained from using the left in a lot of cases. Again, the left is still there when I need it. I just don't need it as much as I ever thought I did.[/QUOTE]

That's understandable, strange thing for me though is that i seem to finish better with my left hand these days despite it not being my natural hand. Obviously there's exceptions to that like finger-rolls and stuff like that are easier with my right. I think another reason why i finish with my left a lot is because my euro step is much better when i go right then left because i'm a left foot jumper and so i'll end of to the left of the basket or moving towards the left and it doesn't feel comfortable using my right while moving left if you know what i mean.. Really depends on the situation though i guess:cheers:

[QUOTE=AJ2k8]That's understandable, strange thing for me though is that i seem to finish better with my left hand these days despite it not being my natural hand. Obviously there's exceptions to that like finger-rolls and stuff like that are easier with my right. I think another reason why i finish with my left a lot is because my euro step is much better when i go right then left because i'm a left foot jumper and so i'll end of to the left of the basket or moving towards the left and it doesn't feel comfortable using my right while moving left if you know what i mean.. Really depends on the situation though i guess:cheers:[/QUOTE]
Yeah, I believe it definitely varies from person to person. For instance, my 9th grade brother might be a better left hand, open court layup guy than I ever was. However, he is a much weaker left-foot "strong" jumper and finisher than I was at that age.

And regarding the Euro, out of curiosity, in your situation do you finish with a left hand layup off your left foot? I am also a left foot jumper (as previously mentioned) so like you, I step with my right first on my Euro then takeoff with my left. However, I still finish with my right hand in that situation. My feeling is, if I Euro'd correctly, I will have enough separation to cut in with the right hand finger roll. I think a left hand attempt after the semi-awkward feeling of a Euro would create a much lower percentage shot for me (coming further away from the rim). I'm speaking mostly of Euro's from the right wing here, as a Euro from the left wing should leave me with a right hand finish at the backboard. On the left wing I'd theoretically be near the front of the rim.

I do acknowledge that a Euro from the right wing will sometimes leave me with an awkward reverse type of finish with my right hand but again, I'm sort of counting on cancelling out the difficulty of the shot by being high enough in the air (close enough to the rim) that it remains high percentage. I'm definitely open to alternative approaches though. I'm weary of a left-foot, left-hand finish. Is it very truthworthy for you?

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[QUOTE=Rake2204]Yeah, I believe it definitely varies from person to person. For instance, my 9th grade brother might be a better left hand, open court layup guy than I ever was. However, he is a much weaker left-foot "strong" jumper and finisher than I was at that age.

And regarding the Euro, out of curiosity, in your situation do you finish with a left hand layup off your left foot? I am also a left foot jumper (as previously mentioned) so like you, I step with my right first on my Euro then takeoff with my left. However, I still finish with my right hand in that situation. My feeling is, if I Euro'd correctly, I will have enough separation to cut in with the right hand finger roll. I think a left hand attempt after the semi-awkward feeling of a Euro would create a much lower percentage shot for me (coming further away from the rim). I'm speaking mostly of Euro's from the right wing here, as a Euro from the left wing should leave me with a right hand finish at the backboard. On the left wing I'd theoretically be near the front of the rim.

I do acknowledge that a Euro from the right wing will sometimes leave me with an awkward reverse type of finish with my right hand but again, I'm sort of counting on cancelling out the difficulty of the shot by being high enough in the air (close enough to the rim) that it remains high percentage. I'm definitely open to alternative approaches though. I'm weary of a left-foot, left-hand finish. Is it very truthworthy for you?[/QUOTE]

Sorry for the long response time, didn't see that the thread had been bumped when you posted, good thing that ad spammer bumped this:lol

Anyway in regards to the eurostep, i'm pretty sure it was once awkward to finish off a left foot jump with my left hand but with all things related to finishing with my left i just worked on it to the point that now it feels normal.

I think even from the right wing when i finish at the front of the rim i'd use my left hand simply because using your right when facing left and in front of the ring would require a finger roll or something whereas i'm very comfortable with my left hook. I think that stems from how i learnt to use my left hand though, when i was younger i was happy to sit outside and practice my shimmy to right hook and when i decided that finishing with my left would be a good idea i just started doing the shimmy to left hook from right under the basket until i had a better feel for the ball and then moved out with time.

I guess it's hard to sum up how i move on the court when it varies from situation to situation but as i said my left foot left hand finish is completely comfortable for me so if i do find my self on the left side or running right to left i'll just do what is comfortable which is usually the hand relative to where i am.

The whole Left foot Right foot eurostep is certainly something i'll have to improve on to make my game more complete because i do find that having to take a right step first against an opponent in the paint when i want to finish right makes me much easier to guard whereas if i could fake them out with the left foot and go right i would be much harder to guard. So maybe if i remember next time i'm shooting around i'll put some time into it..

So in summary, yes it is trustworthy for me and it's something i'll go to in that situation but it does take a little bit of time to get used to. :cheers:

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[QUOTE=AJ2k8]Sorry for the long response time, didn't see that the thread had been bumped when you posted, good thing that ad spammer bumped this:lol

Anyway in regards to the eurostep, i'm pretty sure it was once awkward to finish off a left foot jump with my left hand but with all things related to finishing with my left i just worked on it to the point that now it feels normal.

I think even from the right wing when i finish at the front of the rim i'd use my left hand simply because using your right when facing left and in front of the ring would require a finger roll or something whereas i'm very comfortable with my left hook. I think that stems from how i learnt to use my left hand though, when i was younger i was happy to sit outside and practice my shimmy to right hook and when i decided that finishing with my left would be a good idea i just started doing the shimmy to left hook from right under the basket until i had a better feel for the ball and then moved out with time.

I guess it's hard to sum up how i move on the court when it varies from situation to situation but as i said my left foot left hand finish is completely comfortable for me so if i do find my self on the left side or running right to left i'll just do what is comfortable which is usually the hand relative to where i am.

The whole Left foot Right foot eurostep is certainly something i'll have to improve on to make my game more complete because i do find that having to take a right step first against an opponent in the paint when i want to finish right makes me much easier to guard whereas if i could fake them out with the left foot and go right i would be much harder to guard. So maybe if i remember next time i'm shooting around i'll put some time into it..

So in summary, yes it is trustworthy for me and it's something i'll go to in that situation but it does take a little bit of time to get used to. :cheers:[/QUOTE]

I should take a closer look, do you think NBA players Euro beginning with either foot? Or do they typically always Euro starting with the same foot?

[url]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=tmnBkzTIwts[/url]

This video shows a few of Dwyane Wade's eurostep's and when he talks about he it says that he goes right and then left, everything i've seen in the first minute or so is right to left and either hand finish.

The way he gets his eurosteps are very similar to myself, coming from the top with the big man alone in the middle.

Edit: every single time it shows him do it he goes Right then Left :cheers:

i realize that their is more room for improvement. and i can use my left hand/weak hand in shooting a layup, i just need to practice it more and do lefth and /weak hand drills. it motivate me more and more to practice, practice, practice:rockon:

Wel it's been a long time since updating. It was true that I couldn't practice like 5 hours a day during school year(so much tests. it's about to get ALOT harder sophomore year. once I transform myself once again this summer, I'll be looking forward to finishing the school year and transforming myself again. What I mean by transformation is that in 8th grade, I could barely dribble with my left hand and could barely layup. I also couldn't do figure 8/bounce with two balls/let alone do a spider. Now I'm confident with my left hand. I'm working on doing bullet passes with it though.)