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Re: DONE DEAL: Wizards trade Gilbert Arenas to Magic for Rashard Lewis!
Magic actually have a chance against Boston/Miami now.
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Re: TRADE CLOSE! Magic, Wizards may trade Rashard for Gilbert Arenas
[QUOTE=dee-rose]Redick and Bass are more important this season. Although Bass will probably start now[/QUOTE]
Well Gortat is maybe the best backup Center in the NBA but he plays behind the best Center so he isn't used as much as he could be but is a great insurance policy for D12 if he missed some time not they are paper thin. Also Bass is a nice role Player not nothing special and Pietris was one of these clutchest Playoff performers over the past couple years.
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Re: TRADE CLOSE! Magic, Wizards may trade Rashard for Gilbert Arenas
[QUOTE=Kingwillball]Well Gortat is maybe the best backup Center in the NBA but he plays behind the best Center so he isn't used as much as he could be but is a great insurance policy for D12 if he missed some time not they are paper thin. Also Bass is a nice role Player not nothing special and Pietris was one of these clutchest Playoff performers over the past couple years.[/QUOTE]
Magic will find another backup C. I'm sure Arenas is more clutch than Pietrus. You mad? :lol
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Re: DONE DEAL: Wizards trade Gilbert Arenas to Magic for Rashard Lewis!
[QUOTE=IN-PAX-WE-TRUST]Magic actually have a chance against Boston/Miami now.[/QUOTE]
No No No..They have wing players not as Good as the Heat and have 1 big to deal with the likes of Shaq, Perkins,KG Big Baby that is expecting a little too much out of D12 to stay out of Foul trouble and play Major minutes.
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Re: TRADE CLOSE! Magic, Wizards may trade Rashard for Gilbert Arenas
[QUOTE=BallsOut]Magic will find another backup C. I'm sure Arenas is more clutch than Pietrus. You mad? :lol[/QUOTE]
Im not mad when Wade light Arenas up for 40..The Magic are no threat to Heat especially with Mike Miller coming back it is as good as Adding a Turk or Arenas without giving up anything..
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Re: TRADE CLOSE! Magic, Wizards may trade Rashard for Gilbert Arenas
[QUOTE=Kingwillball]Im not mad when Wade light Arenas up for 40..The Magic are no threat to Heat especially with Mike Miller coming back it is as good as Adding a Turk or Arenas without giving up anything..[/QUOTE]
Sure and now James Jones gets no PT causing chemistry issues. And :oldlol: at Miller having more of an impact than Arenas/Turk
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Re: DONE DEAL: Wizards trade Gilbert Arenas to Magic for Rashard Lewis!
Well Arenas needs to start for the Magic to be legit title contenders.
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Re: DONE DEAL: Wizards trade Gilbert Arenas to Magic for Rashard Lewis!
the magic clearly werent winning anything before, at least now theyve improved their chances..........if arenas can get back into all star form, the magic also need one more big body however
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Re: DONE DEAL: Wizards trade Gilbert Arenas to Magic for Rashard Lewis!
Exactly. Magic had 0% chance of a title with Lewis and Carter. It's a gamble but at least they have a chance to win it all if Arenas/Hedo stay healthy and get hot in the playoffs.
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Re: DONE DEAL: Wizards trade Gilbert Arenas to Magic for Rashard Lewis!
I think Arenas can be good for the Magic.
He had no motivation before. Stuck on a bad team but making huge money, why should he care? But now he is with a hungry D-12 and if Arenas gets motivated again it's gonna be awesome.
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Re: DONE DEAL: Wizards trade Gilbert Arenas to Magic for Rashard Lewis!
Risky trade by the Magic, but it had to be done. The Magic were not the same once they swapped Hedo for Vince & now Hedo is back, Rashard Lewis has really degressed as a player so it was a good move to get rid of him. Jason Richardson is gonna fit fine with the Magic, but I'm not sure about Arenas. The player the Magic are gonna miss most is Pietrus. I see the Magic improving offensively, but degressing a bit defensively, but the Magic at this point desperately need some offense.
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Re: DONE DEAL: Wizards trade Gilbert Arenas to Magic for Rashard Lewis!
Terrible trade. cannot believe we traded GIL for Rashard Muhfukin Lewis. He is a bum a$$ overpaid PF. We couldn't even pull off Gortat or any role player we could use. C'mon Ernie!
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Re: DONE DEAL: Wizards trade Gilbert Arenas to Magic for Rashard Lewis!
I like what Orlando did here. Will Arenas start at pg? If not then perhaps he will be the 6th man.
Lets see if Turk still has it.
If they put it together quickly they could make a run before the end of the season.
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Re: DONE DEAL: Wizards trade Gilbert Arenas to Magic for Rashard Lewis!
Great trade for ORL. Lewis has been awful this year. Gilbert is a big upgrade, and will provide instant offense off the bench.
OT, Pietrus was in and out of the Magic's rotation, so I don't see how they'll miss him.
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Re: DONE DEAL: Wizards trade Gilbert Arenas to Magic for Rashard Lewis!
[QUOTE=Kujo]Great trade for ORL. Lewis has been awful this year. Gilbert is a big upgrade, [B]and will provide instant offense off the bench.[/B]
OT, Pietrus was in and out of the Magic's rotation, so I don't see how they'll miss him.[/QUOTE]
If you watched the interview by Van Gundy, he said out of J.R, Hedo, or Gilbert one of those guys will definitely come off the bench, because he doesn't want Hedo playing the 4, so Hedo coming off the bench as a 2 or 3 makes the most sense, and he wants Gilbert on the court for no less then 32 minutes, and he wants him to play as much as he can without Jameer because the Magic don't want to make the mistake of bringing in a all star player and not giving him the ball in his hands, e.i Vince Carter
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Re: Orlando Magic, Washington Wizards Close to Trading Rashard Lewis for Gilbert Arenas
[QUOTE=Batz]Rashard is horrible. Period.
And they're keeping Jameer which is odd... They can't possibly try a Jameer + Gilbert combo...[/QUOTE]
It seems like they are really set on keeping Nelson starting.. so it looks like it will be a Nelson Arenas backcourt.:oldlol:
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Re: Orlando Magic, Washington Wizards Close to Trading Rashard Lewis for Gilbert Arenas
whats the wizards lineup look like now
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Re: DONE DEAL: Wizards trade Gilbert Arenas to Magic for Rashard Lewis!
no way nelson starts.... im tellin u, arenas and jrich backcourt, hedo, shard, howard.... thats pretty sick.
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Re: DONE DEAL: Wizards trade Gilbert Arenas to Magic for Rashard Lewis!
Arenas and Nelson backcourt and J-Rich gonna start at SF? Hedo PF?
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Re: DONE DEAL: Wizards trade Gilbert Arenas to Magic for Rashard Lewis!
[QUOTE=icewill36]no way nelson starts.... im tellin u, arenas and jrich backcourt, hedo, [b]shard[/b], howard.... thats pretty sick.[/QUOTE]
FAIL, he just got traded.
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Re: Orlando Magic, Washington Wizards Close to Trading Rashard Lewis for Gilbert Arenas
arenas should be a instant producer. i like the moves the magic pulled, made themselves younger and more athletic. no more stifs on the perimiter. Arenas is a better 3 point shooter, turgolu will get his mojo back from dwight in orlando, j-will is another dagger 3 shooter. only problem now for the magic is jameer...can he bring everyone on the same page.
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Re: Orlando Magic, Washington Wizards Close to Trading Rashard Lewis for Gilbert Arenas
[QUOTE=bluechox2]arenas should be a instant producer. i like the moves the magic pulled, made themselves younger and more athletic. no more stifs on the perimiter. Arenas is a better 3 point shooter, turgolu will get his mojo back from dwight in orlando, j-will is another dagger 3 shooter. only problem now for the magic is jameer...can he bring everyone on the same page.[/QUOTE]
He should be dealt. Atleast I would.
Man I'm dieing to see all these guys play. Anyone know when they're all going to play together?
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Re: DONE DEAL: Wizards trade Gilbert Arenas to Magic for Rashard Lewis!
[QUOTE=IN-PAX-WE-TRUST]Magic actually have a chance against Boston/Miami now.[/QUOTE]
without Gortat ?
[QUOTE=Kingwillball]No No No..They have wing players not as Good as the Heat and have 1 big to deal with the likes of Shaq, Perkins,KG Big Baby that is expecting a little too much out of D12 to stay out of[B] Foul trouble [/B]and play Major minutes.[/QUOTE]
this
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Re: TRADE: Wizards trade Gilbert Arenas to Magic for Rashard Lewis!
Nice interview with Gil, he's going to wear number 1 on his jersey as Orlando were his favourite team growing up and his favourite player was Penny. Pretty cool.
[url]http://www.orlandosentinel.com/videobeta/?watchId=98f3e14b-dfc1-45ff-b6b7-d72bcb48c0b0[/url]
[QUOTE=nbacardDOTnet]without Gortat ?[/QUOTE]
Have you actually seen Gortat play this year?! He's been f*cking awful!
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Re: Orlando Magic, Washington Wizards Close to Trading Rashard Lewis for Gilbert Arenas
[QUOTE=Arroyo8]whats the wizards lineup look like now[/QUOTE]
Wall/Hinrich
Howard/Young
Lewis
Blatche
McGee
Im guessing it would look something like that
I don't know how they will perform but what I like is they make sense
people have clear roles and positions and there are no logjams in one position
Philly and Detroit both could learn something from that team
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Re: TRADE: Wizards trade Gilbert Arenas to Magic for Rashard Lewis!
i predict MIP for arenas.
eastern conference finals.
dwight howard.... MVP.
remember this.
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Re: Orlando Magic, Washington Wizards Close to Trading Rashard Lewis for Gilbert Arenas
[QUOTE=flipogb]Wall/Hinrich
Howard/Young
Lewis
Blatche
McGee
Im guessing it would look something like that
I don't know how they will perform but what I like is they make sense
people have clear roles and positions and there are no logjams in one position
Philly and Detroit both could learn something from that team[/QUOTE]
thank you :rockon:
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Re: TRADE: Wizards trade Gilbert Arenas to Magic for Rashard Lewis!
[QUOTE=GhostDeini32]i predict MIP for arenas.
eastern conference finals.
dwight howard.... MVP.
remember this.[/QUOTE]
I could see this...Dont know about winning East finals but they can get there...
People are really sleeping on Gilbert Arenas...He has been on the WIZARDS!!!!!! How good have they ever been...And ask anyone in the league how happy they would be if someone just gave them Dwight Howard after having Javale Mcghee...I think this will resurrect his career...
JRich will do what carter jus did just more consistently...And yea i think Turk is the wild card because no one knows whats his problem...
As for people talking about Foul trouble on D Howard and that will cause them to epic failure... I mean this is now new stuff...Its people's game plans to get him in foul trouble every game and that is how people always thought in beating the magic... So this is not something new they dealt with...
I still dont think they can beat Boston in the East....But no team can in the east...Who else has possible 6 hall of famers...
But magic does have better offense and slightly worst defense...
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Re: TRADE: Wizards trade Gilbert Arenas to Magic for Rashard Lewis!
[QUOTE=ATL_Bball_King]I could see this...Dont know about winning East finals but they can get there...
People are really sleeping on Gilbert Arenas...He has been on the WIZARDS!!!!!! How good have they ever been...And ask anyone in the league how happy they would be if someone just gave them Dwight Howard after having Javale Mcghee...I think this will resurrect his career...
JRich will do what carter jus did just more consistently...And yea i think Turk is the wild card because no one knows whats his problem...
As for people talking about Foul trouble on D Howard and that will cause them to epic failure... I mean this is now new stuff...Its people's game plans to get him in foul trouble every game and that is how people always thought in beating the magic... So this is not something new they dealt with...
I still dont think they can beat Boston in the East....[B]But no[B] team can in the east[/B]...Who else has possible 6 hall of famers...[/B]
But magic does have better offense and slightly worst defense...[/QUOTE]
A little presumptuous aren't U ? The Heat hung with the Celtics when they were playing alot worse than they are now and Wade couldn't play any worse. They also have Mike Miller coming aboard soon not to mention they might another piece at the deadline.
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[QUOTE=Kingwillball]A little presumptuous aren't U ? The Heat hung with the Celtics when they were playing alot worse than they are now and Wade couldn't play any worse. They also have Mike Miller coming aboard soon not to mention they might another piece at the deadline.[/QUOTE]
Never mind the 6 Hall of Famers argument. Pierce, Allen, KG, Shaq. Rondo, MAYBE. Then who? Nate Robinson? Jermaine O'Neal? :oldlol:
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Re: Orlando Magic, Washington Wizards Close to Trading Rashard Lewis for Gilbert Arenas
[QUOTE=Batz]He should be dealt. Atleast I would.
Man I'm dieing to see all these guys play. Anyone know when they're all going to play together?[/QUOTE]
Monday against Atlanta, don't expect much, though.
Gil will be the only one there in time for Team practice tomorrow morning (he hopped on a plane to Orlando the minute he found out he was traded), JRich, Hedo, and EC haven't gotten here yet.
All are expected to play, but they won't have practiced with us, yet. We are going to be disgusting on D tomorrow, I bet.
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Re: Orlando Magic, Washington Wizards Close to Trading Rashard Lewis for Gilbert Arenas
[QUOTE=zORi]Monday against Atlanta, don't expect much, though.
Gil will be the only one there in time for Team practice tomorrow morning (he hopped on a plane to Orlando the minute he found out he was traded), JRich, Hedo, and EC haven't gotten here yet.
All are expected to play, but they won't have practiced with us, yet. We are going to be disgusting on D tomorrow, I bet.[/QUOTE]
Atleast it's just the hawks.
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Re: TRADE: Wizards trade Gilbert Arenas to Magic for Rashard Lewis!
Rashard Lewis to make debut for Wizards tonight
[url]http://voices.washingtonpost.com/wizardsinsider/2010/12/monday-morning-brew-top-1.html[/url]
Jason Richardson will play too, not sure about Arenas
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Re: TRADE: Wizards trade Gilbert Arenas to Magic for Rashard Lewis!
[QUOTE=alenleomessi]Rashard Lewis to make debut for Wizards tonight
[url]http://voices.washingtonpost.com/wizardsinsider/2010/12/monday-morning-brew-top-1.html[/url]
Jason Richardson will play too, not sure about Arenas[/QUOTE]
Yeah, Arenas and Turk will play, too. Turk is actually starting, tonight.
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Re: TRADE: Wizards trade Gilbert Arenas to Magic for Rashard Lewis!
they got back lazy ass mofo and added gun toting immature man-boy. hell yeah they got better :facepalm
no. let's just wait until the cancer spreads and declare this team too late to be saved by chemotherapy.
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Re: TRADE: Wizards trade Gilbert Arenas to Magic for Rashard Lewis!
[QUOTE=Harion]they got back lazy ass mofo and added gun toting immature man-boy. hell yeah they got better :facepalm
no. let's just wait until the cancer spreads and declare this team too late to be saved by chemotherapy.[/QUOTE]
Heat fans are scared.
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Re: TRADE: Wizards trade Gilbert Arenas to Magic for Rashard Lewis!
They might be good if they trade Nelson and Dilbert for Nash.