Did you all see what Rondo just did?

[QUOTE=jasonresno]They were down 8 or 9 against the Bulls at that time.[/QUOTE]Was this the play?
[url]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=giJNO8_cg-s[/url]

Padding at it's finest.

Oh well, 2 pts anyways.

[QUOTE=Fuhqueue][i]Technically[/i], it's actually a lower % shot when someone leading a fastbreak slows up and dishes off to someone else. :lol The highest % shot in that situation is for the player ahead of the pack to finish the play himself.[/QUOTE]

[I]Technically[/I] no Bulls player was anywhere near them. If Rondo's more bothered about assists and/or Ray is more bothered about FG% or points then the play made sense.

[QUOTE=DeronMillsap]Was this the play?
[url]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=giJNO8_cg-s[/url][/QUOTE]

Yes, and nice fail from resno there.

[QUOTE=DeronMillsap]Was this the play?
[url]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=giJNO8_cg-s[/url][/QUOTE]
edit: my bad. But that's kind of even worse. Trollin' in a close game. I thought it was later in the game.

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And a single fhuck was not given.

[QUOTE=vinsane01]:lol I think it's pretty clear in the video that he prefers to get the assist than to get the points. And he wants to get more assists because that's how he gets his props.

Kind of a risky thing to do however. I mean the purpose of an offensive possession is to score, and if you have a wide open layup with no defender in sight would you pass it up to your team mate further away from the basket who has a defender close to him? Get real. Any other point guard would lay that in. The only way someone will pass that up is if they want to get fancy.

I dont hate rondo, quite the contrary, i actually like his game. But i do not approve of this play. It's unnecessary and is a clear indication that he just wants to add more assists to his APG. Not that there is anything wrong with that per se, but it may prove costly in certain plays. But ofcourse, if rondo can keep doing his thing and keep his team winning, i dont see any reason to hate on him for these kinds of plays.[/QUOTE]
Watch the play again:
[url]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=giJNO8_cg-s[/url]

Ray Allen never had anyone close to him since the fast break started. By the time Rondo passed it to Ray, no defender was in 8 feet of him. The closest guy was Taj Gibson I believe and he was jogging back on the play while Ray was running. Not really risky if you ask me. Fancy? I don't see an alley oop or some And1 antics.

[QUOTE=ballup]Watch the play again:
[url]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=giJNO8_cg-s[/url]

Ray Allen never had anyone close to him since the fast break started. By the time Rondo passed it to Ray, no defender was in 8 feet of him. The closest guy was Taj Gibson I believe and he was jogging back on the play while Ray was running. Not really risky if you ask me. Fancy? I don't see an alley oop or some And1 antics.[/QUOTE]

Yes, but it's the very definition of stat padding. A real douchey move indeed.

[QUOTE=DeronMillsap]Rondo won't be doing this in the playoffs, he'll get the easy 2 with a lay-up if this was a playoff game.

Celtics are so good that they're starters are just toying around out there. They've been trolling all season long too. i.e. those prank videos from the preseason, KG calling Villanueva a cancer patient, PP and Nate at MSG, PP's twitter on South Beach, etc...[/QUOTE]

And yet, they lost that game by more than 10 points. Seemed like the bulls were the ones toying around with them.

[QUOTE=Glide2keva]I was called every name in the book and was told I'm making things up just to hate on Rondo. I've been saying for weeks that he passes up open layups just to pad his assists. I even got argued up and down about how wrong I was. And then what does he do?

He goes right out and does exactly what I've been saying.

Apologies are in order.[/QUOTE]

I apologize for all those in denial...and for those who refuse to give you credit for your astute insights.

:oldlol:

[QUOTE=ballup]Watch the play again:
[url]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=giJNO8_cg-s[/url]

Ray Allen never had anyone close to him since the fast break started. By the time Rondo passed it to Ray, no defender was in 8 feet of him. The closest guy was Taj Gibson I believe and he was jogging back on the play while Ray was running. Not really risky if you ask me. Fancy? I don't see an alley oop or some And1 antics.[/QUOTE]

LOL @ the video description

"Rajon Rondo had about 400 feet of wide open space to the basket for a lay-up but preferred the assist to Ray Allen."

I've heard interviews with Rondo on WEEI, and he's completely obsessed with his assists to turnover ratio. He had 8 turnovers that game, so he wanted to bump it up a little bit.

At the beginning of the season, Doc told him to pick and choose his opportunities to score, but to think "assist, assist, assist" every time down the floor. That's why Rondo passes up open shots. To be honest, I'd rather have it that way because when he's locked in playmaker mode, the Celtics are hard to stop.

[QUOTE=hkfosho]And yet, they lost that game by more than 10 points. Seemed like the bulls were the ones toying around with them.[/QUOTE]
You actually think this game will matter in the playoffs?

also, lol @ the idea of the Bulls toying with them. Chicago is good and will be a good team but they're not near Boston's level yet.

[QUOTE=code green]I've heard interviews with Rondo on WEEI, and he's completely obsessed with his assists to turnover ratio. He had 8 turnovers that game, so he wanted to bump it up a little bit.
[/QUOTE]

Uhh he had 0 turnovers that game..and this was early in the game

[QUOTE=DeronMillsap]You actually think this game will matter in the playoffs?

also, lol @ the idea of the Bulls toying with them. Chicago is good and will be a good team but they're not near Boston's level yet.[/QUOTE]

Of course this game will matter in the playoffs, if the Bulls were to face Celtics again. It builds up the momentum. And to think the Celtics were toying with them is blasphemous. "but they're not near Boston's level yet." 90-79 numbers don't lie :oldlol:

[QUOTE=hkfosho]Of course this game will matter in the playoffs, if the Bulls were to face Celtics again. It builds up the momentum. And to think the Celtics were toying with them is blasphemous. "but they're not near Boston's level yet." 90-79 numbers don't lie :oldlol:[/QUOTE]
I Wont say the Celtics were toying with them but will say KG makes a huge difference in this team when hes on the court, so i wouldn't make too much of a judgement based on this game.

[QUOTE=hkfosho]Of course this game will matter in the playoffs, if the Bulls were to face Celtics again. It builds up the momentum. And to think the Celtics were toying with them is blasphemous. "but they're not near Boston's level yet." 90-79 numbers don't lie :oldlol:[/QUOTE]
They went 1-3 against the Magic and 2-2 against the Cavs during the regular season...then destroyed both teams in the playoffs. I think even the Hawks swept them.

This recent Bulls-C's game won't build any momentum or mean anything in the playoffs.

No, I didn't say they were toying with the Bulls. I said they're toying around in the regular season. Learn to read.

goddamn people are obsessed with Rondo. No wonder he got more votes than Rose. "All eyes one me."

If any other PG did this, it would be considered smart. Its keeping another teammate warm. I thought it was common knowledge how a layup can potentially light up a shooter? But oh no it was Rondo. He got an assist and gave a shooter an easy layup. That's killing two birds with one stone.. but oh no its Rondo.. so it must be a negative. :oldlol: It really is true whenever someone is exceptionally good at something, they become hated for it.

I always hated on the Cavs how Lebron would just drive to the hoop and always get a call. But I never cried about it or made topics about it, because I understood why he did it. Cant expect everyone to understand things about players they dislike.

[QUOTE=hkfosho]but you are the one replying, after replying, after replying through all of them :oldlol: :oldlol: :oldlol:[/QUOTE]Not at all. I've only replied in Rondo threads recently to point out that there has been too many Rondo threads. :oldlol:

[QUOTE=NorthernTouch]I Wont say the Celtics were toying with them but will say KG makes a huge difference in this team when hes on the court, so i wouldn't make too much of a judgement based on this game.[/QUOTE]

No cuz Noah iz = ta KG Noah iz da Bess!

[QUOTE=Premeditated]I'm bothered because he is trying to ring up his numbers instead of going with the flow of the game. Even the announce team couldn't avoid such blatant whoring. I don't care about stats. but i care when someone is trying to fukk up a rotation and flow of a basketball game.[/QUOTE]


Yeah, but who the [COLOR="Black"]fu[/COLOR]ck are you?


On the subject of the thread, there's nothing wrong with involving your teammates, which is what Rondo did. He's a point guard. ISH has the most PMS-type threads I've seen in my life.

[QUOTE=mans1ay3r]goddamn people are obsessed with Rondo. No wonder he got more votes than Rose. "All eyes one me."

If any other PG did this, it would be considered smart. Its keeping another teammate warm. I thought it was common knowledge how a layup can potentially light up a shooter? But oh no it was Rondo. He got an assist and gave a shooter an easy layup. That's killing two birds with one stone.. but oh no its Rondo.. so it must be a negative. :oldlol: It really is true whenever someone is exceptionally good at something, they become hated for it.

I always hated on the Cavs how Lebron would just drive to the hoop and always get a call. But I never cried about it or made topics about it, because I understood why he did it. Cant expect everyone to understand things about players they dislike.[/QUOTE]

Pass it out or getting 2 points by himself, it was Rondo's choice, and they did convert that basket, so what the freak people are crying about?
For people who appreciate Rondo's game, not only because his assist numbers, but also his vision, passing and court opening skills, hard work and hustle and defensive abilities.
For true Celtics fans, we only care about winning. We don't care if Rondo has 20 assists or how many 3's Ray can sink. We just want a "W" on the score sheet.
Only the Rondo haters keep mentioning the assist thing and make it negative.

[QUOTE=DeronMillsap]They went 1-3 against the Magic and 2-2 against the Cavs during the regular season...then destroyed both teams in the playoffs. I think even the Hawks swept them.

This recent Bulls-C's game won't build any momentum or mean anything in the playoffs.

No, I didn't say they were toying with the Bulls. I said they're toying around in the regular season. Learn to read.[/QUOTE]
I have to agree with you because we are on the same page about the celtics. They seem to cruise through the regular season and step up WHEN THEY NEED TO. Good example was the celtics vs the cavs in the playoffs. The heat seem to be doing the opposite and beating their opponents by 10 or more point usually. We will see if they can keep it up until the playoffs.

IMO the only teams in the east that are going to be competitive is orlando, miami and boston. One of these 3 teams is going to get an easy win in the first round aginst the bulls or hawks.

In the words of Andrew Bynum, "Are you serious?"

I don't give a shit about Rondo wanting the assist rather than the points. Dude is a playmaker and a great distributor of the ball. I am in the group that says very few point guards in the NBA could average as many assists as he does playing on the Celtics, stat padding or not.

[QUOTE=jdm_dc_fan]IMO the only teams in the east that are going to be competitive is orlando, miami and boston. One of these 3 teams is going to get an easy win in the first round aginst the bulls or hawks.[/QUOTE]

I am not sold on Orlando at all yet. Otis Smith had a whole off season to assess his team's needs and weaknesses. And then he makes a colossal trade mid season to save his job? The trade is seemingly working out in terms of regular season wins. But post-season series come down to match-ups and intense defense. The defense player of the year will holdup just fine in the middle...but perimeter defense is a serious problem for the Magic.

Chicago is a new emerging beast in the East. The Bulls have an excellent defensive rookie HC that has particular insights into the workings of the Boston Celtics. The Bulls defense has had a major renovation and restoration. The Bulls' superstar is playing like the MVP of the league and the East, along w/Amare S. Rose is playing at a level now where a serious observer can see that Rose is capable of filing in the gaps of the Bulls needs in a particular post season series. Rose is staying with his penetration longer now and keeping his dribble alive until the point of defensive contact and a foul call by the referees. This tactic will help insure that Rose can produce points nearly every 4th Quarter possession in the post season. Rose is strong enough to take the pounding too. Along with the Bulls more suffocating overall defense, these developments make the Bulls a more viable threat in the East. I would say that Miami, Boston and Orlando ~ Chicago are the favored Eastern teams.

LMAO he just did literally the exact same play against Houston about a minute ago

[QUOTE=pete's montreux]LMAO he just did literally the exact same play against Houston about a minute ago[/QUOTE]
haha just saw it.. to ray too:oldlol:

Rondo is a fool for that one. :roll:

I busted out laughing when he did it again. Cot damn... Haters bout to be :mad:

[quote=Duranthebest]I busted out laughing when he did it again. Cot damn... Haters bout to be :mad:[/quote]

ha me too :roll:

I love this kid to no end.

rondo passing up wide open looks to pad his assists but failing.

rondo makes all boston fans :lol

everyone else :mad:

I guess Rondo heard everyone on ISH last night :lol

Yea it is amusing that he did it again the very next game.

I still love his approach but it is harder to take his numbers serious at the moment. Hes clearly out to produce assists even if its not exactly the most basic play.

Its kinda like Kevin Loves rebounding in a way. Wasnt he quoted saying "There are no selfish rebounds"?

Guys just setting out to produce crazy numbers even if they have to make it obvious that the numbers themselves are the goal make it a little less impressive. Like when Rodman on the Mavs wouldnt play defense so he could rebound.

Just has a little bad taste on it doesnt it?

So he likes to get the assist. Did anyone make a 13 page thread to complain when J-Kidd was in his prime running fast breaks and throwing off the backboard passes to K-Mart, RJ, and Vince rather than making an easy open layup?

Jesus Christ. Who gives a shit? It's not like Rondo's surrounded by a bunch of inept players. He's passing to all-star caliber talent.

After 14 pages we've developed the idea that rondo likes to pass more than he likes to score. Therefore, he must he a stat padder. Why don't we penalize rose for wanting to score more than pass? Or any other player in the NBA who isn't thinking pass first?

I wouldnt say im trying to "penalize" him for it. Just strikes me as odd for a guy mid game to clearly have his final stats flash through his head and make an effort to not simply score an uncontested layup so he can flip a pass back to get the stat hes more concerned with.

Doesnt make him worse. Wilt Chamberlain did it for at least 2 years for the sole putpose of winning the assist title. It happens.

But it is...odd. Seems like something id rather my guys not even have in mind. Not to the point they bypass the most simple plays. Makes me wonder what is in their head when they pass up shots in the halfcourt and dish it off. Going for the assist or just being unselfish?

There is a difference. And there comes a point that offense suffers. Want your PG to get the best shot. Not the shot most likely to result in an assist. If he doesnt post Pierce up when he has the advantage...and instead dribbles around looking to get a quick dump in assist like hes playing 2k11 trying to get a milestone in Myplayer...

Its just a little quesitonable.

Id rather that kind of thing not be so clearly at the front of a point guards mind.

[url]http://hoopedia.nba.com/index.php?title=Common_Basketball_Terms[/url]

[QUOTE][B]Point Guard[/B]
Usually a team's best ballhandler. He leads the offense and distributes the ball to the team's best scorers.[/QUOTE]

Get over it

[QUOTE=Kblaze8855]I wouldnt say im trying to "penalize" him for it. Just strikes me as odd for a guy mid game to clearly have his final stats flash through his head and make an effort to not simply score an uncontested layup so he can flip a pass back to get the stat hes more concerned with.

Doesnt make him worse. Wilt Chamberlain did it for at least 2 years for the sole putpose of winning the assist title. It happens.

But it is...odd. Seems like something id rather my guys not even have in mind. Not to the point they bypass the most simple plays. Makes me wonder what is in their head when they pass up shots in the halfcourt and dish it off. Going for the assist or just being unselfish?

There is a difference. And there comes a point that offense suffers. Want your PG to get the best shot. Not the shot most likely to result in an assist. If he doesnt post Pierce up when he has the advantage...and instead dribbles around looking to get a quick dump in assist like hes playing 2k11 trying to get a milestone in Myplayer...

Its just a little quesitonable.

Id rather that kind of thing not be so clearly at the front of a point guards mind.[/QUOTE]

This.

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