Feinstein to introduce assault weapons ban bill

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GUN CONTROLS AND RESULTS:

In 1929, the Soviet Union established gun control. From 1929 to 1953, about 20 million dissidents, unable to defend themselves, were Rounded up and exterminated.

In 1911, Turkey established gun control. From 1915 to 1917, 1.5
Million Armenians, unable to defend themselves, were rounded up and Exterminated.

Germany established gun control in 1938 and from 1939 to 1945, a
Total of 13 million Jews and others who were unable to defend themselves Were rounded up and exterminated.

China established gun control in 1935. From 1948 to 1952, 20 million Political dissidents, unable to defend themselves, were rounded up and Exterminated

Guatemala established gun control in 1964. From 1964 to 1981,
100,000 Mayan Indians, unable to defend themselves, were rounded up and Exterminated.

Uganda established gun control in 1970. From 1971 to 1979, 300,000 Christians, unable to defend themselves, were rounded up and Exterminated.

Cambodia established gun control in 1956. From 1975 to 1977, one
Million educated' people, unable to defend themselves, were rounded Up and exterminated.

Defenseless people rounded up and exterminated in the 20th Century Because of gun control: 56 million.


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The UK has had gun control for decades, so when are they gonna start rounding up Brits and executing them:confusedshrug:

BTW, all those countries were under authoritarian regimes BEFORE they enacted strict gun control...

I hope you also realize that under Saddam Hussein, Iraqi households had more guns per family than the US, still they couldn't do anything against that regime. Admit it, if a government with armored vehicles, tanks, helicopter, jets, chemical, biological and tactical nuclear weapons wants to **** with you, you have little chance with that 9mm Baretta you got.

[QUOTE=daily]Any legislation to change gun laws will be a true test of the Obama administration. He's a lame duck, nothing to lose so there should be no problem with him throwing all his support behind new laws.[/QUOTE]
I'd rather he focus on legalizing drugs. He'd do more for gun violence that way, honestly.

[QUOTE]The UK has had gun control for decades[/QUOTE]

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If you ban guns, criminals still get guns. It's just you at the disadvantage.
The UK banned guns and surprisingly gun crime is up almost double.

[url]http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-1223193/Culture-violence-Gun-crime-goes-89-decade.html[/url]

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Son, if one of these dictators come into power again and you happen to live in such nation, you think your gun will do shit? You're heading to the concentration camp either way, boy :oldlol: Except it might be another option to off yourself before they get to you :confusedshrug:

[QUOTE]I hope you also realize that under Saddam Hussein, Iraqi households had more guns per family than the US, still they couldn't do anything against that regime. Admit it, if a government with armored vehicles, tanks, helicopter, jets, chemical, biological and tactical nuclear weapons wants to **** with you, you have little chance with that 9mm Baretta you got.[/QUOTE]



Too bad all the revolutions in human history had equal odds and still worked. It's more complex then the entire military just wrecking the civilians sh*t.

Not to mention Iraq's army folded like a house of cards instead of bothering.



[QUOTE]More guns per family[/QUOTE]
[citation needed]

You're also implying there was no sectarian & ethnic conflicts in iraq think "divide and conquer" and also implying a large number of those gun-owning iraqi's were pro saddam.

This thread got nuts. Are some of you really worried about your govt turning on you?

Can anyone give me a reason why assault rifles should be owned by civilians? And please stop comparing cars and alcohol to guns. Guns are for one thing.... killing albeit hunting or spraying a school of young kids.

You can't defend what happend on friday and other random acts of mass violence over the years. Plain and simple it shouldnt have happened.... or at least to that scale..... if that lunatic only had access to handguns the outcome would've 100% been different.

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If you ban guns, criminals still get guns. It's just you at the disadvantage.
The UK banned guns and surprisingly gun crime is up almost double.

[url]http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-1223193/Culture-violence-Gun-crime-goes-89-decade.html[/url][/QUOTE]
A guy with a knife would have only killed one, maybe two of the kids at Sandy Hook before he was wrestled to the ground by the adults.

UK Gun Ban:
[quote]What effect did the ban have?
According to bare statistics, the ban initially appeared to have little impact, as the number of crimes involving guns in England and Wales rose heavily during the late 1990s to peak at 24,094 offenses in 2003/04.
Since then the number has fallen in each year. In 2010/11 there were 11,227 offenses, 53% below the peak number, according to the official crime figures. Crimes involving handguns also fell 44% -- from 5,549 in 2002/03 to 3,105 -- in 2010/11.[/quote]
[url]http://www.cnn.com/2012/12/17/world/europe/dunblane-lessons/?hpt=wo_t4[/url]

Try not to quote three+ year old articles when making a point. Gun crime is way down since its peak in the UK in 2004.

Where's the stats in US that prove banning a specific type of firearm results in less crime? There's not one example or study of how banning an assault rifle helps.

[QUOTE=ripthekik]:oldlol:
Son, if one of these dictators come into power again and you happen to live in such nation, you think your gun will do shit? You're heading to the concentration camp either way, boy :oldlol: Except it might be another option to off yourself before they get to you :confusedshrug:[/QUOTE]

If the VAST majority isn't against us, yes.

[QUOTE=MJ23forever]Too bad all the revolutions in human history had equal odds and still worked. It's more complex then the entire military just wrecking the civilians sh*t.

[b]Not to mention Iraq's army folded like a house of cards instead of bothering[/b].[/QUOTE]
They folded to a way superior military machine, the one you would take on with your AK-47:oldlol: thank you for making me point for me:lol

The Iraqi army had tanks, yet they knew they weren't gonna beat the US military and you think with an assault rifle you gonna knock down a fighter jet carpet bombing your neighborhood:facepalm

This isn't 1700s fool, where a musket would put you on more or less equal terms with the army, you got any anti-aircraft missle launchers in your attic?:roll: you gon need a bunch of those

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What's that....for some reason the government wants to enslave it's own people, and you're the last line of defense?! Well thank god you bought those Bushmasters at that gun show. Now you can barricade yourself and.......what's that sound???

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[QUOTE=MJ23forever]
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Oh, you have a semi-automatic rifle and you're going to fight the #1 superpower in the world with it? Hold on a sec...look out the window....

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[QUOTE=Droid101]A guy with a knife would have only killed one, maybe two of the kids at Sandy Hook before he was wrestled to the ground by the adults.
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>he thinks it's hard to kill people with a knife

Nobody wants to f*ck with the guy with the knife. Principal lunges, you stab her in the throat. other admins and teachers lunge, stab them in the throat. Room full of kids? They're not gonna be strong enough to fight back.

Keep thinking gun crime is down in the UK though. When there were 100 and now there are 90, you took EVERYBODY'S guns for fu*king nothing.

[QUOTE=TheMan]They folded to a way superior military machine, the one you would take on with your AK-47:oldlol: thank you for making me point for me:lol
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>we were there to do it for them
>making you point for you

pick one, please?

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This is what happens when nutcases don't have access to guns. Same psycho, different story.

[QUOTE]22 Chinese schoolchildren hurt in stabbing spree

A man wielding a knife stabbed an elderly woman and then 22 children outside an elementary school in China on Friday before being subdued by security guards.

The attack happened in the village of Chengping in Henan, a landlocked province about halfway between Beijing and Shanghai. A 36-year-old named Min Yingjun from Guangshan county is accused of bursting into the home of a 85-year-old woman before stabbing her with a kitchen knife and then moving on to children as they were arriving for school after 8 a.m. local time.

On Saturday, the Chinese government's Xinhua News Agency quoted police who said that Min was possibly "mentally ill" and is now in custody.

A doctor at Guangshan's hospital of traditional Chinese medicine said that nine students had been admitted, two of which were subsequently transferred to better-equipped hospitals elsewhere in the country. None of the children have died.

Some of the children had their fingers or ears cut off.

It's not clear how old the children were, but the primary school in China covers children between six and 11 years old.

The man attacked almost two dozen children before being subdued by security guards who have been posted across China following a spate of school attacks in recent years.[/QUOTE]

:roll: OP mad as hell, love it.

[QUOTE=Droid101]Oh, you have a semi-automatic rifle and you're going to fight the #1 superpower in the world with it? Hold on a sec...look out the window....
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Implying armed insurgency and asymmetrical warfare doesn't work.

>firing rockets at a building full of non-hostiles who may even side with them

Yeah, sure. That'll be happening.

[QUOTE=Droid101]A guy with a knife would have only killed one, maybe two of the kids at Sandy Hook before he was wrestled to the ground by the adults.[/QUOTE]

What about a guy with access to fertilizer, fuel, a vehicle, an internet guide and a few functioning brain cells?

People who are focusing on removing all the tools instead of dealing with the people [B]using [/B]the tools, while they probably have good intentions, are missing the bigger picture. You don't ban airplanes and all air travel after 9/11. You try to make air travel as safe as possible and ensure that the murderous, unstable people in the world can't use them to kill people.

[QUOTE=The Real JW]What about a guy with access to fertilizer, fuel, a vehicle, an internet guide and a few functioning brain cells?

People who are focusing on removing all the tools instead of dealing with the people [B]using [/B]the tools, while they probably have good intentions, are missing the bigger picture. You don't ban airplanes and all air travel after 9/11. You try to make air travel as safe as possible and ensure that the murderous, unstable people in the world can't use them to kill people.[/QUOTE]
No one is suggesting an outright ban on all guns, just tighter restrictions.

[QUOTE=MJ23forever]Implying armed insurgency and asymmetrical warfare doesn't work.

>firing rockets at a building full of non-hostiles who may even side with them

Yeah, sure. That'll be happening.[/QUOTE]
So this tyrannical government you fear so much also has feelings :confusedshrug:

[QUOTE=D-Rose]No one is suggesting an outright ban on all guns, just tighter restrictions.[/QUOTE]

I've seen posters on here and other sites advocating a blanket ban.

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You use guys like Ghandi and dalai lama?
seriously?
Ok this is on a whole new level of retardedness.
U.S., the problem is education, not guns. I've been convinced.

MJ23forever, must suck to be you, to be so fearfull and to feel like less than a man unless you have a big gun...what are you so afraid of? Fvcking pvssy:oldlol:

Grow a pair, son

[QUOTE=ripthekik]This is what happens when nutcases don't have access to guns. Same psycho, different story.[/QUOTE]

Except that in most of these Chinese school stabbing sprees (which happen all the time), there have been fatalities as well.

All this proves is that taking away gun rights won't eliminate these kinds of mass, random attacks. Some nut will always be trying for a high score.

Sh*t, look at Utoya - all that strict gun control in Norway didn't do shit.

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What's that....for some reason the government wants to enslave it's own people, and you're the last line of defense?! Well thank god you bought those Bushmasters at that gun show. Now you can barricade yourself and.......what's that sound???[/QUOTE]

Yo check out this sound I'm hearing!

It's an RPG, it just blew up this larger-than-life RC.

What? I live near mexico...

fakkits trying to take my guns whats next your gonna take my cars because theres too many drunk drivers. :rolleyes:

[QUOTE=Rysio]fakkits trying to take my guns whats next your gonna take my cars because theres too many drunk drivers. :rolleyes:[/QUOTE]

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Samuel Adams:

"Among the natural rights of the colonists are these: first, a right to life, secondly to liberty, thirdly to property; together with the right to defend them in the best manner they can."

John Adams:

"Arms in the hands of the citizens may be used at individual discretion for the defense of the country, the overthrow of tyranny or private self-defense."

Thomas Jefferson:

"The strongest reason for the people to retain the right to keep and bear arms is, as a last resort, to protect themselves against tyranny in government."

Thomas Jefferson, in an early draft of the Virginia constitution:

"No free man shall ever be debarred the use of arms in his own lands."

[QUOTE=TheMan]MJ23forever, must suck to be you, to be so fearfull and to feel like less than a man unless you have a big gun...what are you so afraid of? Fvcking pvssy:oldlol:

Grow a pair, son[/QUOTE]

Thomas Paine, writing to religious pacifists in 1775:

"The supposed quietude of a good man allures the ruffian; while on the other hand, arms like laws discourage and keep the invader and the plunderer in awe, and preserve order in the world as well as property. The balance of power is the scale of peace. The same balance would be preserved were all the world destitute of arms, for all would be alike; but since some will not, others dare not lay them aside. Horrid mischief would ensue were one half the world deprived of the use of them; the weak would become a prey to the strong."

I'm sure most of you don't know/care who Megan McArdle is, but if you ever see her name on a byline feel free to skip that story.

[URL="http://www.thedailybeast.com/articles/2012/12/17/there-s-little-we-can-do-to-prevent-another-massacre.html"]http://www.thedailybeast.com/articles/2012/12/17/there-s-little-we-can-do-to-prevent-another-massacre.html[/URL]

[QUOTE]My guess is that we're going to get a law anyway, and my hope is that it will consist of small measures that might have some tiny actual effect, like restrictions on magazine capacity. I'd also like us to encourage people to gang rush shooters, rather than following their instincts to hide; if we drilled it into young people that the correct thing to do is for everyone to instantly run at the guy with the gun, these sorts of mass shootings would be less deadly, because even a guy with a very powerful weapon can be brought down by 8-12 unarmed bodies piling on him at once. Would it work? Would people do it? I have no idea; all I can say is that both these things would be more effective than banning rifles with pistol grips.[/QUOTE]

She really wrote that.

[QUOTE=InspiredLebowski]I'm sure most of you don't know/care who Megan McArdle is, but if you ever see her name on a byline feel free to skip that story.

[URL="http://www.thedailybeast.com/articles/2012/12/17/there-s-little-we-can-do-to-prevent-another-massacre.html"]http://www.thedailybeast.com/articles/2012/12/17/there-s-little-we-can-do-to-prevent-another-massacre.html[/URL]

She really wrote that.[/QUOTE]

:biggums:

And I'm sure she'd totally be the first one to charge too :rolleyes:

[QUOTE=bmulls]:biggums:

And I'm sure she'd totally be the first one to charge too :rolleyes:[/QUOTE]
Lol shed be the only person charging

[QUOTE=97 bulls]Lol shed be the [b]first one hiding[/b][/QUOTE]
fixed

They should do a prank at her building, have a fake gunman go in there shooting blanks and see how she reacts, 1000 bucks says the bitch is full of hot air and she'd do like George Costanza in the Seinfeld episode where he pushes kids and old people out of the way to get out first of the burning house. Always seems to be that those who talk the loudest are usually the first to fold like cheap seats.:facepalm

[B]You tryna put me in a communist death camp Obamer? [/B]

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[B]Over mah dead body, you commie basterd. John Muthaf*ckin Rambo reporting for duty.[/B]

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[B]Obama: Cancel that bitch.[/B]

[URL="http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=QZ-dNu5uOQc"]1 drone, 1 shot, 6 heavily armed insurgents down[/URL]

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A basic rundown for the idiots thinking they are going to take on the military with their guns :oldlol:

[URL="http://www.buzzfeed.com/buzzfeedpolitics/nra-promises-meaningful-contributions"]http://www.buzzfeed.com/buzzfeedpolitics/nra-promises-meaningful-contributions[/URL]

National Rifle Association spokesman Andrew Arulanandam emails the first statement from the organization since Friday's massacre in Newtown.[INDENT][quote]National Rifle Association of America is made up of four million moms and dads, sons and daughters – and we were shocked, saddened and heartbroken by the news of the horrific and senseless murders in Newtown.

Out of respect for the families, and as a matter of common decency, we have given time for mourning, prayer and a full investigation of the facts before commenting.

The NRA is prepared to offer meaningful contributions to help make sure this never happens again.

The NRA is planning to hold a major news conference in the Washington, DC area on Friday, December 21.
[/quote][/INDENT]

[QUOTE=InspiredLebowski][URL="http://www.buzzfeed.com/buzzfeedpolitics/nra-promises-meaningful-contributions"]http://www.buzzfeed.com/buzzfeedpolitics/nra-promises-meaningful-contributions[/URL]

National Rifle Association spokesman Andrew Arulanandam emails the first statement from the organization since Friday's massacre in Newtown.[INDENT][/INDENT][/QUOTE]

Hopefully it won't be a repeat of [URL="http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=O0B_UZNtEk4"]THIS[/URL]

[QUOTE=DonDadda59]Hopefully it won't be a repeat of [URL="http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=O0B_UZNtEk4"]THIS[/URL][/QUOTE]

Damn that gave me a boner.

[QUOTE=bmulls]Damn that gave me a boner.[/QUOTE]

Git er done. :pimp:

[QUOTE=bmulls]Damn that gave me a boner.[/QUOTE]
:cletus:

[QUOTE=DonDadda59][B]A basic rundown for the idiots thinking they are going to take on the military with their guns :oldlol:[/QUOTE]
The Military can't take down Al Qaeda for good, you think they'll be able to take down a large insurgency of Americans in their own country:oldlol: