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[QUOTE=InspiredLebowski]I'd say just amnesty Bargs but what's the point now, their cap's already shot to hell.[/QUOTE]
i would love to, but BC would never amnesty his no. 1 pick. dude is seriously in love with him. if he plays bad he questions everyone else. it's seriously pathetic.
no, he'll try and try to find a trade for him, hoping some poor soul will give us some picks or cap space.
[QUOTE=Cermet]So what the fck are they going to do with the PF spot ? Bargniani will be traded and somebody has to take his spot. That was supposed to be Davis.
And they would have shit load of wing player. Landry, Tross, Anderson and lets not forget Kleiza who btw is pretty good when on the floor.[/QUOTE]
Bass+1st rounder for Lowry...:banana:
Make it happen Danny!!
Oh wait...:facepalm
[QUOTE=albas89]Bass+1st rounder for Lowry...:banana:
Make it happen Danny!![/QUOTE]
yeah and they are left without PGs
[QUOTE=InspiredLebowski]Cuban turning down Calderon is just boneheaded. I doubt it'd get Dallas to the playoffs but it'd sure as hell give em a better shot, and it saves a few mil on the cap.[/QUOTE]
I bet he thinks he'll get more for Vince... Like Cuban's last couple of free agency gambles paid off so well. :facepalm I mean, Vince is having a great year considering his age, but a trade for Calderon is a no-brainer. Dallas is so bad at the PG position. No one can consistently create, and even a simple pick and roll with Dirk seems to be impossible.
Reading these tweets... the feels
[QUOTE]Calderon just told us it is close to done but hasn't heard official. He is putting on uniform
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[QUOTE]My bad, Calderon just got dressed!
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[QUOTE]Calderon put on street clothes and walked into other room after telling us it is close. No sign of Ed
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[QUOTE]Ed Davis just did his goodbye hugs. Looks like a done deal to me
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[QUOTE]This place is a morgue
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[QUOTE]Bargnani having his pre-game pasta
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[QUOTE]Much sadness in #raptors locker room as Calderon, Davis say goodbye
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[QUOTE]Ed Davis just left the Raps locker room & headed towards the bus area
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[QUOTE]Calderon and Davis now leaving Philips Arena in street clothes.
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Prince and Daye are inactive and not in Indy right now, in case there was any doubts
[QUOTE=Clippersfan86]Aww this made me sad.
"The fans have been with me since day 1, so it's tough to leave." - Calderon, choking back tears, before he left the arena.
Love this guy, have always wanted him on my Clips and I hope Detroit treats him well :applause:[/QUOTE]
Man it is gonna be weird seeing Calderon in another uniform. He's currently 2nd in total games played for the Raptors, only 17 games behind Mo Pete. I was never against trading him, but it's gonna be kinda sad to see him go.
Calderon and drummond imagine all them oops! This means lucas is our back up pg GRRRRR thats weak. guys garbage
LOL, Bargnani eating pasta, oblivious to everything else.
[QUOTE=Whoah10115]LOL, Bargnani eating pasta, oblivious to everything else.[/QUOTE]
:roll: :roll: . Dude is just going along with his pre game meal. It takes a lot of energy to sit on the bench all game man.
Don't feel like there is a real loser here. Memphis probably holds as the 4th best team in the West. The Pistons got a distributor, which they needed. Eh, Toronto is going to pay a lot to get marginally better, but I guess making the playoffs this year or next is enough for them.
not sure how I should feel about this but wouldn't mind resigning Calderon
[QUOTE=hawkfan]How good is Austin Daye?
Starter? Sixth man? All-Star?
Where is he at?[/QUOTE]
When he's had minutes he's played well. He's not big enough to defend the stronger PF's in the game and he's not quick enough for the fast SF's. It all depends on match ups with him. I'd imagine he'll see open looks with Gasol I& Randolph down low. He'll knock those shots down. Memphis might be good for him.
[QUOTE=Stuckey]not sure how I should feel about this but wouldn't mind resigning Calderon[/QUOTE]
There's not much of me that would want to resign him. He doesn't play any defense at all, which is not Detroit basketball. Offensively he can be pretty good. We have plenty of that with Bynum and Knight though.
I was gonna make a thread on something Aldridge just said (taped, before the trade), but then he went on to say a lot of dumb Aldridge things, including picking Manu (one of my favorite players) as the 6MOTY, due to advanced stats...that's stupid.
But he's saying that Bargnani will "almost certainly" be traded before the deadline.
Just bring some pasta.
Sad to see Ed Davis gone :(
:cry: ed and jose you will be missed
i dont know what to expect
considering how much money the grizzlies will save, i think tayshaun is a great replacement for gay
[QUOTE=Whoah10115]LOL, Bargnani eating pasta, oblivious to everything else.[/QUOTE]
[IMG]http://4.bp.blogspot.com/-9YtUqnobJy4/UIXtL4k4MQI/AAAAAAAAA7Y/CWRXxGWfOCI/s1600/bargnani-pigging-out.jpg[/IMG]
Jose deserves 1 minute or more standing ovation when he plays the first game in ACC as a Piston.
[QUOTE=kaiteng]Jose deserves 1 minute or more standing ovation when he plays the first game in ACC as a Piston.[/QUOTE]
Absolutely. So Calderon is a free agent this summer right? Could he come back to Toronto next season?
[QUOTE=Velocirap31]Absolutely. So Calderon is a free agent this summer right? Could he come back to Toronto next season?[/QUOTE]
Unless Pistons ties him up with a new contract, yeah maybe.
[QUOTE=Velocirap31]Absolutely. So Calderon is a free agent this summer right? Could he come back to Toronto next season?[/QUOTE]
I wouldn't be surprised in the least. If he wants to come back and is willing to take a cheaper contract to play backup I'd be fine with it.
[QUOTE=Bcogswell]I wouldn't be surprised in the least. If he wants to come back and is willing to take a cheaper contract to play backup I'd be fine with it.[/QUOTE]
:D Cool. I have a feeling he'd like to return.
My thoughts on the trade that I left in the game thread. Thought I would share it here too:
Short-term move. Were going to pay Gay a lot of money and that doesn't give us the cap space to address other weaknesses on this team. I understand the Calderon trade because his trade value was at a high and Lowry is better than him, but trading Davis makes it clear that Colangelo wants to still build with Bargnani as a main piece... and that really boggles my mind.
If Bargnani isn't traded as well and Colangelo comes back, I think a lot of Raptor fans are heading out the door and not going to bother with this team whatsoever, because it's clear they have no long-term vision. It seems the franchise wants to get into the playoffs and get owned in the first round for next couple of years and have no more room to improve.
From a fan standpoint with Calderon and Davis, I'm gonna miss both. Calderon for being a fine pure point guard, unselfish, and the ultimate professional. Davis, I wanted to him start after his rookie season, really played well since Bargnani got injured and I thought he was going to be the future piece for this team, either rotational or starting.
So overall, the trade just didn't make sense, outside of probably getting Calderon off our plate.
The teams have confirmed that the trade is now official
The Toronto Raptors announced Wednesday they have acquired forward Rudy Gay and centre Hamed Haddadi from the Memphis Grizzlies in exchange for guard Jose Calderon, forward Ed Davis, a second-round draft choice in 2013 and cash considerations. The Grizzlies traded Calderon to the Detroit Pistons for forwards Austin Daye and Tayshaun Prince.
Read more: [url]http://www.insidehoops.com/blog/?p=12250#ixzz2JW4XZMA6[/url]
grizz is stronger without gay imo. that lineup that took okc to 7 games.with zebo as the #1 scoring option
Wow, this actually happened. :facepalm
Unbelievable. BC is moron. I like Rudy Gay, but let's be honest, he just isn't that good. He's never been an all-star. You can say he's underachieved to this point. He's an elite athlete, and can be clutch, but he goes MIA too often, and is not a great shooter. There's no guarantee this even makes us a playoff team. Gay will have to elevate his game big-time. This move is pure desperation by BC.
So we now have 3 guys in DD, Ross, and Gay who are practically the same player. :confusedshrug:
We give-up Davis, who finally started to produce after getting minutes, and has proven to be more valuable then AB.
The most depressing thing is that appears to confirm that the Raps are committed to AB to be their starting PF going forward. I hope I'm wrong.
I would have loved to see Calderon go to a contender. That being said, he'll make Drummond, and Monroe even better. The Pistons may sneak into the playoffs now.
Memphis didn't come off too bad. Davis, and Prince are above average players. Prince may prove to more valuable then Gay come playoff time.
Couldn't BC have just trade Calderon for Prince, without trading Davis away?
Rare fact: All the players being traded have never been traded before. :eek:
[QUOTE=n00bie]Rare fact: All the players being traded have never been traded before. :eek:[/QUOTE]
And I believe all of them have only played for one team.
One question: What's gonna happen to Derozan?
[QUOTE=d.bball.guy]One question: What's gonna happen to Derozan?[/QUOTE]
Derozan should be trade bait. His extension killed a lot of whatever value he might've had though. Given that he can't shoot and or create off the dribble, he's a terrible fit beside Gay.
He's basically in the same situation Bargnani was. The Raptors outbid themselves and offer a premature extension to a player that hasn't improved much since coming into the league. Hopefully they don't make the same mistake and hold onto Derozan for 7 years in hopes that he'll be an exception and break out.
[QUOTE=kaiteng][IMG]http://4.bp.blogspot.com/-9YtUqnobJy4/UIXtL4k4MQI/AAAAAAAAA7Y/CWRXxGWfOCI/s1600/bargnani-pigging-out.jpg[/IMG][/QUOTE]
Raptor fans should be happy. If you're listening to your GM right now, it seems pretty obvious that Bargnani is going to be traded...assuming anyone else is interested.
Bargnani and his agent have apparently brought up the possibility of being moved and Colangelo just said they've discussed and are exploring trading him.
So, he will be moved...if anyone else wants to take him.
Damn, I wonder how this guy feels...
[url]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=WK7lIjFsGvg[/url]
Prince will be welcome cause he plays D and shoots 3's.
Already having one of the best defenses in the NBA then adding Prince instead of Gay will be nice, but Gay is such a dynamic athlete.
Gay will be missed.
This is Hollinger playing "Moneyball" and I love it, everything about it. Rudy has all the talent in the world but was a ballstopper in this system. :cheers:
[QUOTE=VIP2000]Damn, I wonder how this guy feels...
[url]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=WK7lIjFsGvg[/url][/QUOTE]Gah, I was going to post the same exact thing. Well done.
I'm guessing it went a little something like, "No! Not this guy!"
[QUOTE=Kujo]The most depressing thing is that appears to confirm that the Raps are committed to AB to be their starting PF going forward. I hope I'm wrong.[/QUOTE]
This is exactly what went through my mind as well. :cry: