Gary Vitti confirms ruptured achilles, Kobe out 6-9 months

[QUOTE=LA_Showtime]What's funny is Dwight gets screwed in this whole ordeal. If he leaves LA the public backlash is going to be awful. If he stays, chances are Kobe will try to come back and no one knows how that's going to turn out, but given Kobe's history I doubt he'll be happy with being a second or third option. Then again, if Dwight stays in LA chances are the team won't be competing for another year or two at best. Wow.[/QUOTE]

Dwight would be crazy to stay in LA. That team is in cap hell, and now have a washed up 30 million dollar hole in a Never Will Be the Same 34 year old Kobe.

That team is years away from fixing their mess.

If he's smart, he goes to Atlanta or Houston. Atlanta would instantly become the best defensive team in the NBA. Scary.

[QUOTE=3LiftHeatCurse]Dwight would be crazy to stay in LA. That team is in cap hell, and now have a washed up 30 million dollar hole in a Never Will Be the Same 34 year old Kobe.

That team is years away from fixing their mess.

If he's smart, he goes to Atlanta or Houston. Atlanta would instantly become the best defensive team in the NBA. Scary.[/QUOTE]
Uh, in a year they only have Dwight and Nash on the books.

[QUOTE=3LiftHeatCurse]Dwight would be crazy to stay in LA. That team is in cap hell, and now have a washed up 30 million dollar hole in a Never Will Be the Same 34 year old Kobe.

That team is years away from fixing their mess.

If he's smart, he goes to Atlanta or Houston. Atlanta would instantly become the best defensive team in the NBA. Scary.[/QUOTE]

After next year the Lakers would only have Nash and Howard on the books. He's playing in the best market for not only basketball, but exposure...and it's the best destination for free agents.

What more does a player want? He gets to play with Nash and Gasol next year..and perhaps Kobe...which is way better than most help superstars get...and then the following summer the Lakers will have the flexibility to do anything and everything to build around him.

Wake up.

I think some of you are downplaying the possibility of Kobe playing elsewhere after 2014. It obviously depends on what level he can play at next year, and he obviously won't come back next year like this past year, but if he comes back lets say playing at Wizards Jordan level, I could see him wanting to play more after next year and even thinking to himself that he can play better 2 years from now after he's adjusted.

Now, even if Kobe would be willing to come back for like the veterans minimum, I could easily see Jim Buss saying no to resigning him just because his style of play has such an impact on the way the team does and Kobe just won't be good enough anymore for the Lakers to justify that and not playing more through Dwight Howard.

With that being the case, if Kobe still wants to play, he'll go somewhere else. He's not going to let someone else dictate when he ends his career even if it means he won't retire as a Laker. And lets not forget, just because he says he wants to end his career as a Laker, doesn't mean thats what is going to happen. Most all-time greats say they want to end their career with their team, and it doesn't end up that way for a variety of reasons.

Too optimistic, if he was not an elite athlete he would have a hard time being able to walk again. I really feel bad for Kobe that he had to go out like that but at least the injury came late in his all time great career.

Bad news :(

[QUOTE=Knoe Itawl]The funny thing is, only Bryant stans over the years have ever used a term like "psycho hater" to describe me. I've acutally had pretty cordial relationships with non psycho Bean fans over the years, and many have agreed with what a lot that I've written about him. At any rate, I'm not going to use this situation to argue about my feelings on Bryant as I don't find it appropriate so if you respond you'll be talking to yourself from this point on.

Oh, and a true "psycho hater" would revel in this injury, not feel compassion towards it.[/QUOTE]

Good points. Whenever there were debates, or "trolling" from peeps like me, Knoe, Kuniva, Pauk, Gino, etc., it was always within the context of the game itself, and what was happening on those terms. I can't recall any of these guys wishing injury on Kobe, because hey, talking smack about a player while he's playing and playing[I] well[/I] is what keeps the board lively.

However, a part of me can't help but think that "Somebody" out there in the Universe got fed up with the " Godbe" bullsh!t and decided to do something about it. Maybe a lesson for the youngsters perhaps? Dude, it's grown men getting paid to play a kid's games to keep themselves in shape, at the end of the day.

Meybe we should keep that in perspective.

[QUOTE=IncarceratedBob]nope. rose suffered a common injury that usually takes 2-3 months for a full recovery.

29 athletes in the 4 major US sports have suffered a COMPLETELY+RUPTURED torn achilles tendon, 27 never played again, and 2 have been nothing similar to what they originally were, Ken Griffey in the late 80s and Bill Samson for the Bucks in the late 90s[/QUOTE]
2-3 months for full recovery for an ACL tear? get the **** out of here

Daniel Marino and Chauncey Billups spring to mind. Kobe will be fine, he's a warrior afterall.

[QUOTE=guy]I think some of you are downplaying the possibility of Kobe playing elsewhere after 2014. It obviously depends on what level he can play at next year, and he obviously won't come back next year like this past year, but if he comes back lets say playing at Wizards Jordan level, I could see him wanting to play more after next year and even thinking to himself that he can play better 2 years from now after he's adjusted.

Now, even if Kobe would be willing to come back for like the veterans minimum, I could easily see Jim Buss saying no to resigning him just because his style of play has such an impact on the way the team does and Kobe just won't be good enough anymore for the Lakers to justify that and not playing more through Dwight Howard.

With that being the case, if Kobe still wants to play, he'll go somewhere else. He's not going to let someone else dictate when he ends his career even if it means he won't retire as a Laker. And lets not forget, just because he says he wants to end his career as a Laker, doesn't mean thats what is going to happen. Most all-time greats say they want to end their career with their team, and it doesn't end up that way for a variety of reasons.[/QUOTE]

You've got to be kidding me. Jim Buss is already getting shit for passing up the logical coaching choice of Shaw for Mike Brown only to fire him a year later. Then he passes up Phil ****ing Jackson for Mike "we practiced defense for THIRTY MINUTES" D'Antoni because Phil's boning his sister. If he were to not resign Laker legend Kobe Bryant, especially for the veteran minimum, there would be riots in LA.

There will be less basking in reflected glory in this site huh?
I'd like to see traffic stats for the site for the upcoming months. I bet they will plummet in absence of the legions of Kobe fans.
ISH is probably over as we know it, but then again..

[QUOTE=Nevaeh]Good points. Whenever there were debates, or "trolling" from peeps like me, Knoe, Kuniva, Pauk, Gino, etc., it was always within the context of the game itself, and what was happening on those terms. I can't recall any of these guys wishing injury on Kobe, because hey, talking smack about a player while he's playing and playing[I] well[/I] is what keeps the board lively.

However, a part of me can't help but think that "Somebody" out there in the Universe got fed up with the " Godbe" bullsh!t and decided to do something about it. Maybe a lesson for the youngsters perhaps? Dude, it's grown men getting paid to play a kid's games to keep themselves in shape, at the end of the day.

Meybe we should keep that in perspective.[/QUOTE]



If that were the case "LeGod" is next?


I highly doubt the universe is concerned with something like that. We have wars, starvation, and severe evil out there in the abyss.

[QUOTE=Nevaeh]Good points. Whenever there were debates, or "trolling" from peeps like me, Knoe, Kuniva, Pauk, Gino, etc., it was always within the context of the game itself, and what was happening on those terms. I can't recall any of these guys wishing injury on Kobe, because hey, talking smack about a player while he's playing and playing[I] well[/I] is what keeps the board lively.

[B]However, a part of me can't help but think that "Somebody" out there in the Universe got fed up with the " Godbe" bullsh!t and decided to do something about it. Maybe a lesson for the youngsters perhaps? Dude, it's grown men getting paid to play a kid's games to keep themselves in shape, at the end of the day. [/B]

Meybe we should keep that in perspective.[/QUOTE]

Yeah, I'm sure that was it. :facepalm

Kobe will never be kb24 again. Saw his entire career, it was damn fun while it lasted.

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This is what my friend/agent sends me this am. Shiesh! #kobe #motivationsunday[B] I'm keeping track of all doubters and haters [/B]#mambamentality

:applause: :applause: :applause:

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Kobe will be out for 9 months due to pregnancy.. will retire next season to become a full time mom

[QUOTE=red1]Kobe will never be kb24 again. Saw his entire career, it was damn fun while it lasted.

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Is Kareem's point record now out of reach for Kobe?

Horrible news. Love him or hate him, you gotta respect a guy who will play, play, and play for his team until something catastrophic like that brings him down. I really enjoyed the Lakers struggling in such a comedic fashion, but Kobe playing his heart out night in and night out regardless of the team's chances really made me respect him as a player more.

[QUOTE=nightprowler10]Horrible news. Love him or hate him, you gotta respect a guy who will play, play, and play for his team until something catastrophic like that brings him down. I really enjoyed the Lakers struggling in such a comedic fashion, but Kobe playing his heart out night in and night out regardless of the team's chances really made me respect him as a player more.[/QUOTE]

There's a fine between playing your heart out, and playing beyond your age, and any player stupid enough to play 40 plus minutes in game after game like that is just being careless. There's a reason coaches start resting up aging players toward the end of the season, and this is one of the reasons why.

The human body takes longer to recover from wear and tear as it ages, and that's not even taking into consideration the already existing wear and tear that players have already racked up during the course of their careers. It's a dangerous combination to have in a sport that's so predicated on constant motion, speed and agility like basketball is.

Even when playing "rec ball" I know my limitations when I find myself on a team opposite guys almost, and sometimes literally, half my age, and there's no way in hell I'm gonna be able to play "balls out" like I did in my 20s.

But I can still be effective in the post, and as a passer, pretty much like every great player in the history of the game has. What does every top 10 player have in common above anything else? They all by and large had great post games to cut down on wear and to prevent injuries, and played limited minutes when necessary.

Kobe's now learning the painful lesson that your body doesn't give a **** about "pride, heart, courage" and all of those other cliches, when you start abusing the hell out of it just to prove a point. Eventually it says"I can't take this sh!t anymore" and does the inevitable; break down.

[QUOTE=Nevaeh]Good points. Whenever there were debates, or "trolling" from peeps like me, Knoe, Kuniva, Pauk, Gino, etc., it was always within the context of the game itself, and what was happening on those terms. I can't recall any of these guys wishing injury on Kobe, because hey, talking smack about a player while he's playing and playing[I] well[/I] is what keeps the board lively.

[B]However, a part of me can't help but think that "Somebody" out there in the Universe got fed up with the " Godbe" bullsh!t and decided to do something about it. Maybe a lesson for the youngsters perhaps? Dude, it's grown men getting paid to play a kid's games to keep themselves in shape, at the end of the day. [/B]

Meybe we should keep that in perspective.[/QUOTE]

Yes that's a perfectly reasonable and unbiased perspective :rolleyes:

[QUOTE=Nevaeh]

Kobe's now learning the painful lesson that your body doesn't give a **** about "pride, heart, courage" and all of those other cliches, when you start abusing the hell out of it just to prove a point. Eventually it says"I can't take this sh!t anymore" and does the inevitable; break down.[/QUOTE]

Even though it was a freak injury, nobody can cheat father time.

[QUOTE=Nevaeh]There's a fine between playing your heart out, and playing beyond your age, and any player stupid enough to play 40 plus minutes in game after game like that is just being careless. There's a reason coaches start resting up aging players toward the end of the season, and this is one of the reasons why.

The human body takes longer to recover from wear and tear as it ages, and that's not even taking into consideration the already existing wear and tear that players have already racked up during the course of their careers. It's a dangerous combination to have in a sport that's so predicated on constant motion, speed and agility like basketball is.

Even when playing "rec ball" I know my limitations when I find myself on a team opposite guys almost, and sometimes literally, half my age, and there's no way in hell I'm gonna be able to play "balls out" like I did in my 20s.

But I can still be effective in the post, and as a passer, pretty much like every great player in the history of the game has. What does every top 10 player have in common above anything else? They all by and large had great post games to cut down on wear and to prevent injuries, and played limited minutes when necessary.

Kobe's now learning the painful lesson that your body doesn't give a **** about "pride, heart, courage" and all of those other cliches, when you start abusing the hell out of it just to prove a point. Eventually it says"I can't take this sh!t anymore" and does the inevitable; break down.[/QUOTE]

You have no ****ing balls

Cliche's are cliches...many talk that talk. Few walk it.

Pushing beyond your limits is not stupidity, it's literally the single most important ideal that has advanced the human race over the centuries.

They said it wasn't that - I don't know if to believe them - but to me you doing something out of absolute necessity trying to carry your team through, is not a valid criteria upon which you can blame a player for an injury.

[QUOTE=Ronaldinho]You have no ****ing balls[/QUOTE]

And you obviously haven't even hit age 25 yet, son. Get at me in another 20 years, and then tell me how your body's reacting day to day.

[QUOTE=Ancient Legend]Even though it was a freak injury, nobody can cheat father time.[/QUOTE]

Thanks. That's the only point that I was making.

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[QUOTE=Nevaeh]Thanks. That's the only point that I was making.

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What Kobe did wasn't the smart thing to do, but it was the right thing to do. He is a player, not a coach or a GM. You have the coach and the GM to the the smart things, i.e.: pull him the fu(k out of the game. As a plyer, he has to do the right thing, which is to play until the wheels fall off.

You are playing armchair GM here and you are right. You are talking about the smart thing. He was on the court though and not as a GM but as a player. And he did the right thing. The thing you want a player to do. You want a much better coach though.

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Just wanted to put a stop to all this "kobe's a warrior for walking out there and shooting 2 ft's" talk.

Lebron stans rushing to WebMD because a meme pissed them off :lol

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Just wanted to put a stop to all this "kobe's a warrior for walking out there and shooting 2 ft's" talk.[/QUOTE]

How insecure are you? Oh my god, does kobe being the ultimate warrior bothers you :oldlol:

stay mad

#mambawarrior

Cramps > Crappy Achilles injury, get mad.

[QUOTE=Nevaeh]

However, a part of me can't help but think that "Somebody" out there in the Universe got fed up with the " Godbe" bullsh!t and decided to do something about it. Maybe a lesson for the youngsters perhaps? Dude, it's grown men getting paid to play a kid's games to keep themselves in shape, at the end of the day.

Meybe we should keep that in perspective.[/QUOTE]

so is this the same somebody that thought I should get laid off from my job? if so then f him and Kobe will come back to win another championship and I will go visit his statue at Staples in the future every Sunday.






see how stupid that is? the gawdbe thing is just fun and games, its the internet