Hawthorne Police Arrest Photographer and Kill His Dog (NSFW)

The whole situation derived from an illegal detention, so the cops are most at fault. However if a huge dog was lunging at me as a civilian, specially a Rottie, and I was packing heat, I would have shot it without hesitation. The black dude didn't listen to his grandma though: don't go looking for trouble or trouble will find you.

If you found someone taking pictures of your little daughter at a public park, and you told him to stop and he wouldn't because he's not doing anything illegal, you would still try to to kick his ass. What I'm saying is the dude could have avoided the situation by not being so overtly daring while filming them and having the loud music on.

The awkward moment UPS, FedEx, Post Office employees, and others across the country handle dogs more effectively, and far less violently, than trained officers...

[QUOTE=brandonislegend]The awkward moment UPS, FedEx, Post Office employees, and others across the country handle dogs more effectively, and far less violently, than trained officers...[/QUOTE]
I'd say they handled it very effectively other than maybe they could waste less bullets and work on their aim so it's a one shot kill next time.

I sincerely hope that police officer has a huge date with karma. Hopefully something newsworthy so I can get some satisfaction out of it. Hopefully that photographer is a connected gangbanger or some shit :oldlol:

[QUOTE=Ancient Legend]

If you found someone taking pictures of your little daughter at a public park, and you told him to stop and he wouldn't because he's not doing anything illegal, you would still try to to kick his ass. What I'm saying is the dude could have avoided the situation by not being so overtly daring while filming them and having the loud music on.[/QUOTE]

What a retarded connection. Some random taking pictures of a little girl vs a guy filming police(INCREDIBLY POPULAR BTW) in a hectic situation. Yeah really similar, really it's almost like painting free candy on a van and abducting children. I wouldn't stand for that, so would why the police stand for getting filmed :oldlol:

Dude put himself in the situation, agreed. He didn't do it against a civilian who follows his own personal beliefs but against the Police department. They don't exactly follow the same set of rules. Just because there annoyed or upset doesn't mean they can go off book, it's why we have the system in place.

I wouldn't want to be a cop for that reason. Have people fcking with you constantly would suck but it's what you sign up for.

[QUOTE=d.bball.guy]Both sides made mistakes. I mean the guy provoked the cops by filming them and not doing what he should be doing. He didn't even secure the dog inside his car. The cops have the right to do what they did to the guy and the killing of the dog was just the result of the carelessness of the owner.

And about the killing of the dog, it's completely justified. What would you do if a hostile dog tried to attack you and you can't just run but you have a gun? Just let it bite you? No. You shoot it for your own or other people's safety. I was just wondering why they don't have a taser to use or let the owner get his pet calmed, though. The cops hold some of the blame but it's mostly the owner's fault. Still, I feel bad for the dog, and for the cops who are now in the hot seat because the general public blame them for the killing of them dog when it was the owners fault that his pet got killed.[/QUOTE]

Again, there were so many other ways, some that you listed that this could have been handled. I don't blame the cop if he just got scared shitless and he regrets it and gets suspended, but for people to say its "Justified" wtf lol.

That's like saying we should all pack some heat, next time we go to pet a dog and it barks at us, just pump it full of bullets. Not even shoot a warning shot, just put it out its misery for defending itself. It's self defense for us and its justified. That dog shouldn't be mean and should be more understanding of my intentions.

Holy **** there's some dumbasses on this forum lol.

[QUOTE=Phantom_Blue]Again, there were so many other ways, some that you listed that this could have been handled. I don't blame the cop if he just got scared shitless and he regrets it and gets suspended, but for people to say its "Justified" wtf lol.

That's like saying we should all pack some heat, next time we go to pet a dog and it barks at us, just pump it full of bullets. Not even shoot a warning shot, just put it out its misery for defending itself. It's self defense for us and its justified. That dog shouldn't be mean and should be more understanding of my intentions.

Holy **** there's some dumbasses on this forum lol.[/QUOTE]
If you are doing police work and a random rottweiler is being very hostile towards you and interrupting your work. Then yeah pump it full of bullets.

People forget this is a rottweiler. That breed is very protective.

9er isn't a troll? I was just hoping for his sake that he was a troll. Damn!

Anyways, that guy should get his ass kicked for putting his dog in that situation. He's the reason why the dog is dead. Not gonna blame the cops for this one.

[QUOTE=rhythmic

[QUOTE=brandonislegend]The awkward moment UPS, FedEx, Post Office employees, and others across the country handle dogs more effectively, and far less violently, than trained officers...[/QUOTE]

Yup. We should be allowed to carry guns now and shoot dogs for interrupting our work.

i've never had a pet, not a dog person at all, but f*ck every one who is giving the blame to the owner in this thread. i dont what kind of world you live in, but this whole "if he wasnt there, his dog wouldn't have been shot" mentality is retarded.

keep making excuses for trigger happy cops like they don't reside in your area, what a bunch of f*ck tards. its getting so bad out here, n*ggas are going to have to buy bulletproof vests for their dogs man.. god damn.

What's next? Cops letting off a clip into someone's fish tank? :biggums:

fact is they are trained to handle pressure packed situations, yet they are blasting away dogs when they could have just had the owner calm down and restrain his own pet?

Not shocked to see cops do something like that. They can be very reckless at times.. tasing old women and children... Punching females in the face.. Shooting dogs.. just acting like idiots

Cops are generally out of control.. Its ridiculous.. There are many ways to handle the situation without killing the dog, but cops are like that nowadays. Not all cops are out of control, but way too many of them are.

People in here defending them wont get it until their reckless behavior affects you

[QUOTE=GOBB]If you say so[/QUOTE]

Well, I didn't see the cops shoot a dog that was simply walking on the street or even just barking at them. I saw a dog trying to attack cops that were detaining the idiot who wasn't careful enough to prevent this incident from escalating.

I agree, cops are scum and they have done a lot of ****ed up shit recently but this incident is not one of them. I do agree that the cop could have simply tazzed the dog or tried to restrain it I guess, but at the same time he was just protecting himself. You guys are acting like the cop came to the car opened the door and shot the dog for no reason.

Did the dog not try to attack the cops while they were doing their job?
How the hell can you blame the cop in this situation and not the owner is beyond me. You can say it was excessive and I'd agree but I don't think it's unnecessary. Cop was protecting himself and they never asked that idiot to provoke them. They didn't even pay attention to him until he started to instigate them further.

[QUOTE=Just2McFly]i've never had a pet, not a dog person at all, but f*ck every one who is giving the blame to the owner in this thread. i dont what kind of world you live in, but this whole "if he wasnt there, his dog wouldn't have been shot" mentality is retarded.

keep making excuses for trigger happy cops like they don't reside in your area, what a bunch of f*ck tards. its getting so bad out here, n*ggas are going to have to buy bulletproof vests for their dogs man.. god damn.

What's next? Cops letting off a clip into someone's fish tank? :biggums:

[B]fact is they are trained to handle pressure packed situations, yet they are blasting away dogs when they could have just had the owner calm down and restrain his own pet?[/B][/QUOTE]

A good cop probably would have done that.
I don't agree with the rest of your post.

If you were being attacked by a rottweiler and had a gun, and you felt like your life was in danger, would you not protect yourself by shooting it? You guys are angry because you're speculating the cops motives; and I'd agree if his motive was just to be trigger happy then I'd blame the cop but from that video maybe we should leave speculations out of it. The situation does seem like the cop was protecting himself from an angry dog.

The owner was an idiot, end of story.

your whole reasoning is retarded. a cop is going to run into idiots and knuckleheads, that's expected going into the damn job.

keep giving these guys a pass and blame people like the dog's owner....that's expected but if something should ever happen to you because you step out of pocket....remember this.

im still trying to figure out what he did that would ever allow you to blame him for his dog getting shot. what if it was his child? what would you say then?

its so sad...using LETHAL FORCE is considered protecting himself now? as if there aren't any measures to keep safe in between doing nothing and killing people/dogs?

come on man

wish i could live without accountability like some of these cops

[QUOTE=Just2McFly]your whole reasoning is retarded. a cop is going to run into idiots and knuckleheads, that's expected going into the damn job.

keep giving these guys a pass and blame people like the dog's owner....that's expected but if something should ever happen to you because you step out of pocket....remember this.

im still trying to figure out what he did that would ever allow you to blame him for his dog getting shot. what if it was his child? what would you say then?

its so sad...using LETHAL FORCE is considered protecting himself now? as if there aren't any measures to keep safe in between doing nothing and killing people/dogs?

come on man

wish i could live without accountability like some of these cops[/QUOTE]
If it's his child then it's not okay. Simple as that. :confusedshrug:

It's not protecting himself. If you are doing police work and a random rottweiler is being very hostile towards you and interrupting your work as well as compromising the safety of the people around it, then kill it. That should be standard protocol.

[QUOTE=Just2McFly]your whole reasoning is retarded. a cop is going to run into idiots and knuckleheads, that's expected going into the damn job.

keep giving these guys a pass and blame people like the dog's owner....that's expected but if something should ever happen to you because you step out of pocket....remember this.

im still trying to figure out what he did that would ever allow you to blame him for his dog getting shot. what if it was his child? what would you say then?

its so sad...using LETHAL FORCE is considered protecting himself now? as if there aren't any measures to keep safe in between doing nothing and killing people/dogs?

come on man

wish i could live without accountability like some of these cops[/QUOTE]

So my reasoning is retarded but comparing a hostile rotty to a baby isn't?

To some people their pet are their children. You don't have to agree with that but it's the truth.

I have the sensation there is a lot of cat lover ******* in this thread. :facepalm

[QUOTE=Rasheed1]Not shocked to see cops do something like that. They can be very reckless at times.. tasing old women and children... Punching females in the face.. Shooting dogs.. just acting like idiots

Cops are generally out of control.. Its ridiculous.. There are many ways to handle the situation without killing the dog, but cops are like that nowadays. Not all cops are out of control, but way too many of them are.

People in here defending them wont get it until their reckless behavior affects you[/QUOTE]

Yeah but they guy kind of bought it on himself. Who when they see armed robbers barricade themselves in their victims house and surrounded by cops drives close to the cops and blares loud music at them. Then gets out and asks the cops about the lack of diversity (a legitimate question almost any other time). Then he refuses to leave or turn down his music. I am sorry I dont think a reasonable person does that, in that situation.

To the people saying he got arrested because he was filming the cops, well why weren't other people filming arrested?

I know people who are cops, they aren't superhuman mixed martial artists who can handle anything. Die hard/Super Cop/Lethal weapon/etc are just movies. Cops get scared all the time, they are human. When confronting armed robbers they are going to be super tense no matter what (you would be too). Also cops don't want to get bitten by a rottweiler. If that bit hits nerves/tendons, it could change a persons life.

There are lots of cases where cops behave unreasonably (Eg that cop in that beat a latino kid for saying he needed a warrant to enter his car), this wasn't one of them.

[QUOTE=oh the horror]To some people their pet are their children. You don't have to agree with that but it's the truth.[/QUOTE]

I am a dog person, but that shouldn't matter under the law.

To some people the inanimate objects are super important, it's irrelevant under the law. Humans>>>Dogs under the law.

[QUOTE=rhythmic †hesis]Well, I didn't see the cops shoot a dog that was simply walking on the street or even just barking at them. I saw a dog trying to attack cops that were detaining the idiot who wasn't careful enough to prevent this incident from escalating.

I agree, cops are scum and they have done a lot of ****ed up shit recently but this incident is not one of them. I do agree that the cop could have simply tazzed the dog or tried to restrain it I guess, but at the same time he was just protecting himself. You guys are acting like the cop came to the car opened the door and shot the dog for no reason.

Did the dog not try to attack the cops while they were doing their job?
How the hell can you blame the cop in this situation and not the owner is beyond me. You can say it was excessive and I'd agree but I don't think it's unnecessary. Cop was protecting himself and they never asked that idiot to provoke them. They didn't even pay attention to him until he started to instigate them further.[/QUOTE]

You said earlier that they didnt kill the dog on purpose. Clearly they did since they shot at it 4+times. Or maybe it was accidental?

and also even if the dog tried to attack lets not act like 5+ police officers couldnt stop it with tazers, pepper spray or batons. Or even let the owner take care of it. They clearly were trigger happy and saw no problem whatsoever with killing it. Bunch of pu$$ies deserve to get a beatdown when they are off duty.

[QUOTE=MavsSuperFan]Yeah but they guy kind of bought it on himself. Who when they see armed robbers barricade themselves in their victims house and surrounded by cops drives close to the cops and blares loud music at them. Then gets out and asks the cops about the lack of diversity (a legitimate question almost any other time). Then he refuses to leave or turn down his music. I am sorry I dont think a reasonable person does that, in that situation.[/quote]

None of that is an excuse for the cops killing the dog.. Detain the guy and either have him calm the dog, or tase it...

Blowing the dog away is just a dumb thing to do, and you cant really blame the owner for what the cop did..

To me, it silly to try and take all the responsibility away from the person who actually killed the dog... The owner didnt shoot the dog, the cop did. He didnt have to do that. Like I said, cops do the same sh*t when it comes to people too. This is just another example of it.. They tase women & children, shoot unarmed homeless people, and you can usually find some people who will try to defend their behavior..



[quote]I know people who are cops, they aren't superhuman mixed martial artists who can handle anything. Die hard/Super Cop/Lethal weapon/etc are just movies. Cops get scared all the time, they are human. When confronting armed robbers they are going to be super tense no matter what (you would be too). Also cops don't want to get bitten by a rottweiler. If that bit hits nerves/tendons, it could change a persons life.[/quote]

I know some cops too.. Alot of them are good people, But I also know their mentality.. The authority they have sometimes goes to their heads and they do things without thinking them through totally.. People (and in this case a dog) suffer for the bad decisions cops make and people shouldnt make excuses for cops when they make bad decisions. Their job is to handle these situations professionally, especially since people can die or be killed if they dont.

Nothing wrong with detaining and arresting the owner, but killing the dog was uncalled for.. cant blame the owner because the cop shot his dog... He didnt sicc the dog on the cops.. Cop just took the easy way out and killed it

[quote]There are lots of cases where cops behave unreasonably (Eg that cop in that beat a latino kid for saying he needed a warrant to enter his car), this wasn't one of them.[/QUOTE]


Agree to disagree.. I think this is just another example of a cop blasting away and not being more prudent with his power.. This is why people dont respect the police.

seriously fckin terrible that the dog pays for his dumb owners mistake.

The police asks the dude to turn down his music because they are in the middle of a standoff and this @sshole leaves the music on and starts taking pictures.

Then we find out this idiot has a lawsuit against the police department already. So obviously his intention was to make a scene then he was hoping the police would rough him up since there were cameras everywhere. He wanted to use that moment to try to win a lawsuit but instead he lost his dog and looks like an absolute moron.

The dog never deserved to die and yes a taser would have been better.

Fck his owner.

[QUOTE=Just2McFly]i've never had a pet, not a dog person at all, but f*ck every one who is giving the blame to the owner in this thread. i dont what kind of world you live in, but this whole "if he wasnt there, his dog wouldn't have been shot" mentality is retarded.

keep making excuses for trigger happy cops like they don't reside in your area, what a bunch of f*ck tards. its getting so bad out here, n*ggas are going to have to buy bulletproof vests for their dogs man.. god damn.

What's next? Cops letting off a clip into someone's fish tank? :biggums:

fact is they are trained to handle pressure packed situations, yet they are blasting away dogs when they could have just had the owner calm down and restrain his own pet?[/QUOTE]

how can you defend the owner? that moron didn't listen to the police when they told him to turn the music down. HE was there to cause a scene because he had a lawsuit pending already against the police department.

his intentions are so clear. Stop being a jackass and defending the moron.

Honestly it looked justified. I love animals and I don't like the harm of any. We have to be human sometime and maybe it was the officers gut response to that dog, nothing more. It's wrong but what can we do? Perhaps a taser would be better but instant reaction and fear could of caused a gunshot. Idk what more to say.

There are a lot of mentally unstable people in this thread.

[QUOTE=WWRWestbrookDo?]how can you defend the owner? that moron didn't listen to the police when they told him to turn the music down. HE was there to cause a scene because he had a lawsuit pending already against the police department.

his intentions are so clear. Stop being a jackass and defending the moron.[/QUOTE]
If his intentions are so clear to an idiot like you, who wasn't there to begin with, how did the cops STILL fall for it? Obviously there is a problem with these cops.

[QUOTE=Just2McFly]If his intentions are so clear to an idiot like you, who wasn't there to begin with, how did the cops STILL fall for it? Obviously there is a problem with these cops.[/QUOTE]
When there's a SWAT team and about a dozen cop cars (cops with MP-5's and shit) you don't mess with them. Just imagine if your loved one was involved in the hostage situation.

The guy was trying to be a little bitch. There were a butt load of other people around the scene, who were recording. Yet, the dumbass (guy in the video) decides to move about as close to the scene as possible. That's why he got detained. He doesn't even have the common sense to raise the windows. Grade A dumbass. Hope people like him don't pollute the gene pool.

[QUOTE=Phantom_Blue]Again, there were so many other ways, some that you listed that this could have been handled. I don't blame the cop if he just got scared shitless and he regrets it and gets suspended, but for people to say its "Justified" wtf lol.

That's like saying we should all pack some heat, next time we go to pet a dog and it barks at us, just pump it full of bullets. Not even shoot a warning shot, just put it out its misery for defending itself. It's self defense for us and its justified. That dog shouldn't be mean and should be more understanding of my intentions.

Holy **** there's some dumbasses on this forum lol.[/QUOTE]
I should've picked a better word than justified, but you get the point. That's why I said the cop holds some of the blame, but not all. He could've handled it a lot better than just shoot the dog. Still, the owner could've prevented everything from happening if we wasn't being an idiot. That's what most people(specifically on Facebook and other social media sites) don't see.

[QUOTE=Just2McFly]If his intentions are so clear to an idiot like you, who wasn't there to begin with, how did the cops STILL fall for it? Obviously there is a problem with these cops.[/QUOTE]

not surprising to find you in this thread behaving like a racist moron.

[QUOTE=aj1987]When there's a SWAT team and about a dozen cop cars (cops with MP-5's and shit) you don't mess with them. Just imagine if your loved one was involved in the hostage situation.

The guy was trying to be a little bitch. There were a butt load of other people around the scene, who were recording. Yet, the dumbass (guy in the video) decides to move about as close to the scene as possible. That's why he got detained. He doesn't even have the common sense to raise the windows. Grade A dumbass. Hope people like him don't pollute the gene pool.[/QUOTE]

Was it a hostage situation?

I heard the armed robbers barricaded themselves in the victims house, but were the victims still in there?

If it was a hostage situation thats even worse, what Leon Rosby did.

Cops do plenty of things wrong, Eg. stop and frisk, trying to get there "stats up" with drug convictions, etc.

[url]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=a0atL1HSwi8[/url]

The house I live in talks about this.

Nothing the cops did in this situation was unreasonable or wrong.
Rosby deserved to be arrested for his actions. That is a critical situation where lives are at risk and he decides to make the situation worse. Everybody else was standing much further back and videotaping it. He was the only civilian that inserted himself into the situation. After refusing to turn down his music and go away he deserves to be arrested in that situation (which was an armed robbery stand off).

His dog attacks the police officer arresting him, understandable since his dog probably thought his owner was being attacked and wanted to help. The police officers react to a rottweiler about to bite him and shoots the rottweiler. Personally I think this was the wrong action, but its understandable.

Rosby was the only person that behaved unreasonably and beyond comprehension. Who goes up to police officers during an armed standoff with robbers and blares music, at them refusing to turn down the music, and criticising them for a lack of racial diversity? Who in that situation behaves that way? I am being generous to Rosby in saying the cop was 30% at fault.

Looks like Mr. Rosby has been busy.

[I]POSTED: 08/13/13, 1:24 PM PDT |
The owner of a Rottweiler that was fatally shot by Hawthorne police, prompting protests and threats against the department when a video of the shooting was circulated online, was expected to be arraigned Tuesday on a series of felonies, including dissuading a witness and making criminal threats.

Leon Cordell Rosby, 52, was charged Friday with two felony counts each of dissuading a witness from prosecuting a crime, intimidation of a witness and making criminal threats, along with one misdemeanor count of resisting arrest.

Rosby was expected to surrender for arraignment sometime Tuesday at the Airport Branch Courthouse, according to the District Attorney

[QUOTE=daily]Looks like Mr. Rosby has been busy.

[I]POSTED: 08/13/13, 1:24 PM PDT |
The owner of a Rottweiler that was fatally shot by Hawthorne police, prompting protests and threats against the department when a video of the shooting was circulated online, was expected to be arraigned Tuesday on a series of felonies, including dissuading a witness and making criminal threats.

Leon Cordell Rosby, 52, was charged Friday with two felony counts each of dissuading a witness from prosecuting a crime, intimidation of a witness and making criminal threats, along with one misdemeanor count of resisting arrest.

Rosby was expected to surrender for arraignment sometime Tuesday at the Airport Branch Courthouse, according to the District Attorney

that was disgusting

[QUOTE=9erempiree]

The woman didn't press any charges, did she? Probably just the police doing here.[/QUOTE]

LA Times is saying he showed up at her house and started threatening her, she called the police on him.