[QUOTE]Tinsley's addition will up the player total to 14 with guaranteed deals and 20 overall, but it's unlikely any cuts will be made until the team returns to Utah after tonight's game.[/QUOTE]
Is guaranteed.
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[QUOTE]Tinsley's addition will up the player total to 14 with guaranteed deals and 20 overall, but it's unlikely any cuts will be made until the team returns to Utah after tonight's game.[/QUOTE]
Is guaranteed.
Another vote for Jimmer.
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[QUOTE]Corbin said he ideally would like to rotate 10 or so players at the start of the season to keep his starters fresh. But without much depth on his bench, Corbin may be forced to play his starters heavy minutes.
"How do we get through that without killing the guys, playing them 35 to 40 minutes every night?" he said. "We
[QUOTE]So far this preseason, Favors has committed 4.6 fouls per 36 minutes, just a lick under last season
[QUOTE]Hayward
[QUOTE]Burke struggled to hit the broad side of a barn in his brief 66 preseason minutes. There are some valid concerns here, both about the types of shots as well as what it says about his adjustment to NBA-level size and speed. But I
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[QUOTE]Rotations. Specifically, a growing faction of Jazz fans is convinced that every minute a veteran plays is a wasted opportunity. But here
The Utah Jazz, with less than a week to go before the league deadline, remain in talks with swingman Gordon Hayward on a contract extension, according to sources close to the process. ESPN.com
Sources told ESPN.com that Hayward remains likely to land an extension before the deadline, with negotiations expected to pick up in pace this weekend after the team returns from a weeklong road trip in Southern California. ESPN.com
[QUOTE]Wolves big man Chris Johnson didn
Marc Stein: Too late to change my ROY pick -- and Oladipo will have a great shot at it obviously -- but raves for Dennis Schroeder are already piling up Twitter @ESPNSteinLine
[QUOTE]Jamaal Tinsley to shore up the guard line, that hadn’t happened by game time. [/QUOTE]
Could make sense to wait and see what else is out there with cuts being made.
[QUOTE]Friday’s loss made it seven consecutive preseason defeats, following an opening-night win. After manhandling Golden State, 101-78 on Oct. 8, they went on to lose like priests at a craps table. Portland, the Clippers and Lakers each beat them twice and Oklahoma City beat them once.
Does that mean anything?
“Not necessarily,” said coach Tyron Corbin, adding that in the preseason “you want to get a feeling for who you are, but it’s not really indication of what kind a season you’ll have, good or bad.”
Corbin is right. Preseason results make for spotty forecasting. There have been years when the Jazz reeked in the preseason, yet went on to great seasons. Other times they were nearly flawless in October but ineffectual the rest of the year.
The Jazz went 1-7 in 1990 but ended up winning 54 games and reaching the conference semifinals. In 2003 they were 7-1 in exhibition, only to miss the playoffs. In the Jazz’s two greatest seasons, 1996-97 and 1997-98, they only went 4-4 and 5-3.
Moral to the story: Preseason is like a sore throat — it could be a big deal or it might not.[/QUOTE]
I don't think there is much doubt that they will suck badly! That's the plan.
[QUOTE]One indication they are still a few tomatoes short of a salad is that they’ve pinned big hopes on injured rookie Trey Burke. He’s talented, but the next Deron Williams?
Right now he’s not even the next Mo Williams.[/QUOTE]
Doubt he'll be anywhere as good as Deron.
[QUOTE]There’s some talent, but not enough to contend.
Kanter would disagree.
“I mean, this room has enough talent to beat every team on every court,” Kanter said as he sat at his locker at the Honda Center. “I’m talking about Jeremy (Evans), Alec (Burks), Gordon (Hayward), Derrick (Favors), Trey Burke … This is my third year and we have enough talent to beat every team.”[/QUOTE]
Like the confidence anyway!
[QUOTE]Is signing Favors and Hayward to extensions a wise move? Andrei Kirilenko’s big contract was a problem near the end of his Utah sojourn. But in this case, the Jazz don’t have much choice; they can’t build around their mascot. Surely other teams would prosper with them if the Jazz didn’t.[/QUOTE]
Time will tell. They have a choice. If you have to overpay them than you are better off letting them go to another team.
[QUOTE]Hayward looked like he was worth a bundle in the first half, filling up the box score the way, well, Kirilenko once did. But he’s far more adept offensively than AK-47 ever was.
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He's certainly a more polished offensive player.
[QUOTE]their dismal preseason record doesn’t seem to overly concern Jazz fans or the media.[/QUOTE]
Because everyone knows they are tanking and sadly most people think that's the thing to do these days.
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[QUOTE]When Feb. 21 came and the NBA
[QUOTE]A misleading shooting performance at the Orlando Pro Summer League was quickly overshadowed by solid performances in the first two preseason games. However, the question remains of how he is using the time off the floor and whether he will be prepared to step back into a key role.[/QUOTE]
He looked better but was still inefficient shooting the ball.
[QUOTE]The mental part of the game is sometimes a concern, but some within the organization believe Kanter is a future All-Star.[/QUOTE]
mental part is a concern?
[QUOTE]At his best, he
[QUOTE]Evans is rail-thin, so he
The Jazz organization is pleased that he has been as independent as he
[QUOTE]The Jazz want to get stops so they can get out and run, and score in transition.
The team
[QUOTE]The question, of course, is whether Hayward is ready for what the Jazz will ask of him. Can he become Utah
[QUOTE]there will be intermittent reinforcement, nights when Enes Kanter and Derrick Favors are dominating opponents inside, when Gordon Hayward is filling the stat sheet and when Trey Burke and Alec Burks are looking like All-Star guards.[/QUOTE]
Yes when they are playing the other shitty teams in the league.
More frequently, hopes will arise when Andrew Wiggins is doing big things for Kansas and every Jazz fan memorizes the precise odds of winning the draft lottery.
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[QUOTE]Tonight
[QUOTE]Steve Kyler: In case you missed it last night @David Aldridge reporting that Wizards won't be keeping Kendall Marshall, Malcom Lee or Shannon Brown Twitter @stevekylerNBA[/QUOTE]
Another reason to wait on Tinsley. Not sure Marshall is the best fit though. Shannon Brown could be but it sounds like he is going back to Lakers.
[QUOTE]Jazz Sign Tinsley, Waive Cook, Holiday, Hudson, Machado, McGuire
Oct 26, 2013 1:18 PM EDT
The Utah Jazz have signed Jamaal Tinsley and waived Brian Cook, Justin Holiday, Lester Hudson, Scott Machado and Dominic McGuire, the team announced on Saturday.
Tinsley had been widely reported as receiving interest from the Jazz.
Cook, Holiday, Hudson, Machado and McGuire all were under training camp deals.[/QUOTE]
Harris made the team? Not the one I would have expected.
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Says Harris made it. I assume he can play some 3 is why? I thought of him as an undersized 4 but if he can play both forward positions it makes him more versatile than Cook, Mcguire or Holiday because they need help at both spots with the injuries. Though they've been calling McGuire a 4 too. He's got the height but I thought of him as more of a wing. He's been hurt though which could have hurt his chances. Evans must not be expected back yet?
Harris can play. I saw him a bit with the Rockets. He was like Charlie Hayes light. I'd guess this could change once(if?) they get healthy. Clark is only guaranteed until January too. So they've still got a bit of flexibility.
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Hayward and the Jazz sound like they can't agree on a reasonable deal. Still a few more days to go though. Did mention that the current deal wasn't over $50 million though.
Yes I saw that.
[QUOTE]"We
Each of the five guys the Utah Jazz cut Saturday had their moments during the preseason.
That made Tyrone Corbin
Rumors have his deal worth slightly more than Favors, potentially topping the $50 million mark. Nothing has been agreed to yet, but in his perfect world Hayward would emulate former Jazz greats John Stockton, Mark Eaton and Darrell Griffith by playing his entire career, not just the next several years, in Utah.
Top Of The List
Top Offensive Player: Gordon Hayward. There will be plenty of shots to go around in Utah this season, and it
[url]http://www.cbssports.com/nba/eye-on-basketball/24137461/eob-nba-division-previews-northwest-division[/url]
Dead Meat: Utah Jazz. It's going to be a rough season in Utah. The front office finally pulled the plug on the Al Jefferson-Paul Millsap frontcourt, relieving the log jam that's held up Derrick Favors and Enes Kanter's development. The Jazz are going with a youth movement type of thing and while there are nice pieces in place -- like Gordon Hayward and Alec Burks -- their bench is atrocious and they don't currently have a point guard because of Trey Burke's injury.
It will be a struggle for Utah to win 30, unless Favors and Kanter are better than expected and Hayward shows he can be a featured player. And even still, that probably only means 35.
Division ROY: Trey Burke. The Northwest has unfortunately already been bitten by the injury bug with both Burke and Portland's C.J. McCollum set to miss the beginning of the season.
But Burke will have the most significant role and was a trendy pick by a lot of people to win the actual Rookie of the Year, before he was injured. He's not going to miss that much of the season and assuming he can get his feet under him, he could have a pretty nice season.
1. Oklahoma City Thunder 56-26
2. Minnesota Timberwolves 44-38
3. Portland Trail Blazers 43-39
4. Denver Nuggets 39-43
5. Utah Jazz 27-55
Hot Seat
Tyrone Corbin, Utah Jazz
Among the projected cellar-dwellers who seem intent on pursuing the developing/rebuilding route, Utah is unique in that it hasn
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UTAH JAZZ
Best-case: The offseason departure of Utah
[QUOTE]22 Utah Jazz
Utah Jazz (43-39)
The Jazz have finally cleared up their long-standing frontcourt logjam. With Al Jefferson and Paul Millsap gone, Derrick Favors and Enes Kanter go from prospects to starters. Gordon Hayward becomes the focal point of the offense and Alec Burks gets a chance to show what he can do. With the potential to start five lottery picks (when Trey Burke is healthy), the Jazz are going to find out what their future looks like quickly.[/QUOTE]
They shouldn't be ahead of Toronto. Maybe if they switched conferences.
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Utah Jazz
2012-13 Record: 43-39
Top Addition: Trey Burke | Biggest Loss: Al Jefferson[/QUOTE]
Loss of Jefferson was the best thing that happened!
[QUOTE]Whether you want to call it
[QUOTE]2012-13 Record: 43-39
Notable Additions: C Andris Biedrins, G Trey Burke, C Rudy Gobert, F Richard Jefferson, G John Lucas III, G Brandon Rush
Notable Losses: F DeMarre Carroll, C Al Jefferson, F Paul Millsap, G Randy Foye, G Earl Watson, G Mo Williams
Coach: Tyrone Corbin (fourth season with Jazz)
AN OPPOSING TEAM'S SCOUT ANALYZES THE JAZZ
This team is emphasizing development of its young players after the free-agent departures of veteran starters Al Jefferson, Paul Millsap, Mo Williams and Randy Foye. The Jazz will follow their game plan of building a team for sustained success, which they've always been known for, rather than trying to make quick fixes.
That approach will make for a trying season: They have two cornerstone big men in Derrick Favors and Enes Kanter, but they are pretty thin in other places. The likelihood is that they add another high lottery pick in next year's deep draft, and maybe they fill another spot and begin ascending again.
They did a tremendous job handling the transition from the Deron Williams/Carlos Boozer era in collecting young assets but also having some veteran pieces around them so those young players were not forced to play before they were ready. With Jefferson, Millsap and youngsters Favors and Kanter in the frontcourt, they could not play all of them big minutes. And even with the veteran guys, they weren't quite good enough to be a playoff team last season. So it makes sense that they would give the young guys more of an opportunity after slowly bringing them along the past few seasons.
DOLLINGER: Jazz No. 22 in preseason Power Rankings
Sometimes it seemed like Favors was overthinking when he was playing, that he was moving at a slower speed than everyone else. The skill level always looked like it was there. He just needed to go through the maturation process. Last year, he really turned the corner.[/QUOTE]
He did?
[QUOTE]Whereas Favors is going to be a little more offensive-minded, Kanter is going to be the interior presence. There's no question in my mind that Kanter averages double-figure rebounds this year and potentially ranks in the top 10. He's big, he's strong and he's getting stronger.[/QUOTE]
You have them mixed up?
[QUOTE]Favors and Kanter have had the good fortune of being able to develop at their own pace. Both will be better for it and the organization will be better for it.
Gordon Hayward really took a step forward last year. He showed the ability to put some pressure on a defense, making shots but also showing that he's more than just a jump shooter. There's no question he's their best wing player. [/QUOTE]
He's their best player period. He had already shown he was more than a jump shooter. The shooting part has been one of the questions about him.
[QUOTE]The Jazz will have to rely on Favors and Hayward to be their go-to scorers. It would not be surprising if Hayward leads this team in scoring. He has work to do defensively, but he'll stick his nose in there and make an effort.[/QUOTE]
Kanter should be their go to guy with Burks and hopefully Burke eventually as secondary options along with G. Favors sure looked good against the Clippers too!
[QUOTE]GOLLIVER: Northwest Division preview
The backcourt is the Achilles' heel. To thrust any rookie into the position of quarterback is tough, especially when he doesn't have much behind him. But once he returns from his broken finger, Trey Burke is going to get significant minutes no matter the situation. In the meantime, John Lucas III, a score-first point guard and career backup, is set to start in Burke's place.[/QUOTE]
Hasn't been a rotation player much.
[QUOTE]Whether Alec Burks is ready for an increased role in the backcourt in his third season remains to be seen. In an ideal world Burks wouldn't start, but he's got some length and versatility, and he looks capable of making shots.[/QUOTE]
Don't think there's much doubt he's ready for more.
[QUOTE]They're going to need someone to play minutes off the bench. The eldest statesman is Richard Jefferson, and no one knows if he has anything left in the tank. Andris Biedrins' confidence is completely shot. Marvin Williams [heel] and Brandon Rush [knee] are both coming off major surgeries.[/QUOTE]
And Marvin sucked!
[QUOTE]Tyrone Corbin was in a difficult position replacing Jerry Sloan, but he's made as smooth a transition as possible over the last two seasons. The transition era on the court is another difficult spot for Corbin. This organization is staring at a lean season because the talent is so green, and when you lose a lot of games, the coach often gets blamed.
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Steve Luhm: One thing that likely slowed Jazz-Hayward extension talks: No way Utah anticipated Pacers' Paul George to get a $90M deal.
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