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[QUOTE=poido123]When people are saying we are cheap, they are talking about how the organisation annually stays under the salary cap except the last few years. But yes, you are right in that aspect. We do pay for the good players, when it is required.[/QUOTE]
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[QUOTE=KyrieTheFuture]Okay what would Pau or Jefferson do? Even less. Yea okay that's a real fair comparison I was unaware that second round picks could net you the first pick in the draft.
Edit: How do people lack such basic understanding of basketball that Sac pick has fairly heavy protections on it and the swap is lottery protected.[/QUOTE]
We don't know for sure if the they won't be first round picks -- I can easily see Cleveland sneaking into the playoffs @ bottom seed now with Chicago dismantling
kings gonna make playoff next year book it,
cousin is just too good
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I should be more specific sometimes. That goes without saying, we were winning titles then, it made sense to go over the cap.
[QUOTE=shaq2000]The Bulls will be promptly waiving Bynum's ass on Tuesday. Trust me.[/QUOTE]
Yeah, it's a shame.
[QUOTE=ProfessorMurder]:oldlol: Larry Sanders signed 4/44 and Deng is better than him.[/QUOTE]
Sanders is 25 and probably the best shot blocker in the NBA and still has upside.
[QUOTE=VIntageNOvel]kings gonna make playoff next year book it,
cousin is just too good[/QUOTE]
Also a possibility with how aggressive management as been
It's just a lot of pieces that have potential value for getting absolutely no value in return
[QUOTE=Solefade]would be amazing if Bulls somehow got Jabari Parker[/QUOTE]
Perhaps Bulls acquiring those picks to move up in the draft order?
Hoemtown Jabari would be a perfect addition.
Rose, Butler, Jabari, Mirotic, Noah. That's an awesome core.
Dreams are nice :oldlol:
[QUOTE=Kingsfans818]We don't know for sure if the they won't be first round picks -- I can easily see Cleveland sneaking into the playoffs @ bottom seed now with Chicago dismantling[/QUOTE]
What don't you understand about the fact that the 1st round pick isn't ours? The pick being a 1st or 2nd is determined by Sacramento's ability to get into the playoffs not ours
Edit: You're a kings fan you should know this already.
derrick rose gets rid of everyone that doesnt get along with him. ben gordan, kirk hinrich, now loul deng:bowdown:
[QUOTE=KyrieTheFuture]What don't you understand about the fact that the 1st round pick isn't ours? The pick being a 1st or 2nd is determined by Sacramento's ability to get into the playoffs not ours
Edit: You're a kings fan you should know this already.[/QUOTE]
Got it -- my mistake
Even if it's 3 second round picks -- going
Into next season the trade is basically getting something for nothing ( or a 1 year rental)
[QUOTE=KyrieTheFuture]What don't you understand about the fact that the 1st round pick isn't ours? The pick being a 1st or 2nd is determined by Sacramento's ability to get into the playoffs not ours
Edit: You're a kings fan you should know this already.[/QUOTE]
Unfortunately, this is correct.
We are relying on the Kings to make playoffs either this year(won't happen) or next year(1% chance of happening) to get the first round pick.
[QUOTE=poido123]Perhaps Bulls acquiring those picks to move up in the draft order?
Hoemtown Jabari would be a perfect addition.
Rose, Butler, Jabari, Mirotic, Noah. That's an awesome core.
Dreams are nice :oldlol:[/QUOTE]
Right way to go about building a team, right poido?
[QUOTE=plowking]Right way to go about building a team, right poido?[/QUOTE]
*sensing heavy sarcasm*
:coleman:
[QUOTE=Kingsfans818]Got it -- my mistake
Even if it's 3 second round picks -- going
Into next season the trade is basically getting something for nothing ( or a 1 year rental)[/QUOTE]
:cheers:
To us, those picks are very low value, we have enough cheap talent on the team we don't need those low contracts to conserve cap space. We also don't have anything to package with those to trade for a legit star, at least in my opinion. If we lose Deng, oh well we didn't lose much of consequence. Who's actually gonna pay him money though? He will probably stay.
[QUOTE=KyrieTheFuture]What don't you understand about the fact that the 1st round pick isn't ours? The pick being a 1st or 2nd is determined by Sacramento's ability to get into the playoffs not ours
Edit: You're a kings fan you should know this already.[/QUOTE]
I can see your perspective as that you
Got a lot of value ( former allstar) for 2nd rounders -- I just don't see it being a good fit based on circumstance
I would rather take by shot with the 2nd rounders to add with my young core
[QUOTE=KyrieTheFuture]:cheers:
To us, those picks are very low value, we have enough cheap talent on the team we don't need those low contracts to conserve cap space. We also don't have anything to package with those to trade for a legit star, at least in my opinion. If we lose Deng, oh well we didn't lose much of consequence. Who's actually gonna pay him money though? He will probably stay.[/QUOTE]
I can seeing him signing with any of the losers of the fa hunt for equal money for the opportunity to compete
[QUOTE=Solefade]would be amazing if Bulls somehow got Jabari Parker[/QUOTE]
except they wont
Fair trade or the Cavs & Bulls considering Deng can walk at the end of the season.
Like it for both sides
[QUOTE=Jameerthefear]except they wont[/QUOTE]
Go hate somewhere else.
Aren't you in the wrong thread? :rolleyes:
[QUOTE=poido123]Go hate somewhere else.
Aren't you in the wrong thread? :rolleyes:[/QUOTE]
not hating. they won't.
Cavs have Deng's bird rights. Can offer him an extra year even at a lower yearly salary than other teams:
Cavs may offer 4 years 44 mill (Bulls only offered 3 years) while holding the ace card with a 5th year option if anyone wants to go crazy and give him a four year deal.
Are the Bulls planning to waive Andrew Bynum??
So you're telling me that the Cavs gave up 3 or 4 picks to rent Luol Deng for half of season.
Not LeBron James,not Kevin Durant,but Luol Deng.
Cavs :roll: :roll: :roll: :roll: :roll:
[QUOTE=PleezeBelieve]Fair trade or the Cavs & Bulls considering Deng can walk at the end of the season.
Like it for both sides[/QUOTE]
... this. If the Cavs can keep Deng I think the Cavs come out on top with the emergence of Irving.
I think this is just more bait to go after Lebron. The Cavs can be contenders in the east. Bynum was dead weight.
[QUOTE=Clutch]So you're telling me that the Cavs gave up 3 or 4 picks to rent Luol Deng for half of season.
Not LeBron James,not Kevin Durant,but Luol Deng.
Cavs :roll: :roll: :roll: :roll: :roll:[/QUOTE]
The 1st round pick is likely useless(Kings won't make playoffs this year or next)
And 2 2nd rounders which usually don't get anything.
Not all that bad. Cavs are probably confident they can resign Deng.
[QUOTE=davehos]... this. If the Cavs can keep Deng I think the Cavs come out on top with the emergence of Irving.
I think this is just more bait to go after Lebron. [B]The Cavs can be contenders in the east. [/B] Bynum was dead weight.[/QUOTE]
nope
[QUOTE=Lebron23]Are the Bulls planning to waive Andrew Bynum??[/QUOTE]
Id say so. Whole reason they did the deal.
Miami?:oldlol:
[QUOTE=Jameerthefear]nope[/QUOTE]
Cavs are what .. 3 games out of the playoffs right now? Deng makes them better.
They're going to be MUCH better with Deng. He's a great defender and can score.
Let the record be set. Cavs make it past the first round.
(I'll be back.)
[QUOTE=Clutch]So you're telling me that the Cavs gave up 3 or 4 picks to rent Luol Deng for half of season.
Not LeBron James,not Kevin Durant,but Luol Deng.
Cavs :roll: :roll: :roll: :roll: :roll:[/QUOTE]
This coming from a Knicks fan? Am I the only one that got a good laugh out of poor use of picks?
Having a legit 3 helps the Cavs a lot. Who has played 3 for them this year? CJ Miles?
[QUOTE=davehos]Cavs are what .. 3 games out of the playoffs right now? Deng makes them better.
They're going to be MUCH better with Deng. He's a great defender and can score.
Let the record be set. Cavs make it past the first round.
(I'll be back.)[/QUOTE]
BAHAHAHAHAHAH, I'll be shocked if the Cavs even make the playoffs.
The Sacramento pick is top 12 protected in 2014 and then top 10 protected from '15-'17. So in all reality Sacramento doesn't even have to make the playoffs the next four years. Just barely miss em lol.
Even so the deal is what we needed. We needed cap relief, extra picks, playing time for Snell. This season was lost the second Rose fell to the ground in Portland. So heres to Jabari and Derrick, Simeon in the NBA!!
Cavs are set. They got a bunch of solid two-way players already and Deng fits right in while also brining a veteran, playoff tested presence.
I'm excited.
[QUOTE=davehos]This coming from a Knicks fan? Am I the only one that got a good laugh out of poor use of picks?[/QUOTE]
I didn't say the Knicks were any better. Usually they make stupid trades so I'm using this opportunity to laugh at other teams until the Knicks make another stupid deal :lol
[QUOTE=iDunk]BAHAHAHAHAHAH, I'll be shocked if the Cavs still make the playoffs.[/QUOTE]
Deng will improve them Alot. They are only 3 games out. That's nothing.
[QUOTE=Lebron23]Are the Bulls planning to waive Andrew Bynum??[/QUOTE]
Yeah they will.
I want Noah traded to the Cavs, just to see him back pedal on his statement about the city from years ago.
Bulls trade up to get Jabari somehow and pair him up with D. Rose as heros of chi-town..EPIC!
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[QUOTE=Myth]I want Noah traded to the Cavs, just to see him back pedal on his statement about the city from years ago.[/QUOTE]
That would be hilarious :oldlol: