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[QUOTE=Norcaliblunt]:cheers:
I wanna know why in golf, fans have to be quiet when players are putting and driving, but in basketball people can scream, blow horns, and wave hands when players are shooting a free throw? I smell double standard.[/QUOTE]
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[QUOTE=tomtucker]i don
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The answer is that they're on skates. The potential for serious damage (bertuzzi cheap shots notwithstanding) is much, much less than two people squaring off on flat footing.
That's all it is. Has nothing to do with race. If white people had a problem with watching blacks fight, there'd be no floyd mayweather or jon jones. The issue is untrained, unequipped guys just throwing haymakers on a basketball court has potential to cause the kind of harm people don't want their kids to see, i.e. a Rudy T moment. On skates, it's mostly just cuts and bruises.
Y'all need not discuss things you have no idea about.
Of course a basketball forum wouldn't think highly of hockey, being that their seasons overlap and have the same format (except for the stupid 2-3-2 format the NBA had for the Finals)
I think it's crazy that baseball brawls are pretty much excepted. Those get pretty wild and it's the whole ****ing team that storms the field.
[QUOTE=Killbot]2-3-2 format has been changed back to 2-2-1-1-1[/QUOTE]
That's why I said [B]HAD[/B]
About time they changed. NBA fixed the dumb sh!t for the Gold Ball :cheers:
Hockey is the greatest sport in existence, granted its accesible,understood and people aren't turned off by all required materials and the general homogenous nature (skin color, not nationality) of its participants.
[QUOTE=Jailblazers7]I think it's crazy that baseball brawls are pretty much excepted. Those get pretty wild and it's the whole ****ing team that storms the field.[/QUOTE]
Theyre not really accepted, not by the league anyhow. Dudes get suspended for participating in brawls. At least Im pretty sure they do.
[QUOTE=kentatm]Maybe if NBA players didn't have a rep for throwing bitch ass sucker punches in fights they wouldn't get hated on so much.
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Or maybe, just maybe, its as simple as 6'8 dudes pack such a heavier punch than the average 5'10 to 6'1 sized guys in other sports that its wise to not allow them to potentially KO a fool and wreck his career.
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Its not like you can punch a guy as hard on skates like you can on an NBA court. Even baseball fights tend to end in a tackle in the dirt more than anything.
Hell, I once saw Shaq take a swing at Brad Miller after he had turned his head and started walking the other way. Had Shaq connected it probably would have killed Miller.[/QUOTE]
This... at the end of the day you don't have multiple guys in play who are pushing 6'8", 6'10", 7' weighing 250+ lbs... lot different than your average hockey player who is ~6', or even NFL who is ~6'3" on average.
Put Gortat, Pekovic, Nene, Valanciunas, Cousins, and Dwight in the Hockey rink or on a baseball field and you wouldn't be allowed to fight there either...
[QUOTE=oarabbus]This... at the end of the day you don't have multiple guys in play who are pushing 6'8", 6'10", 7' weighing 250+ lbs... lot different than your average hockey player who is ~6', or even NFL who is ~6'3" on average.
Put Gortat, Pekovic, Nene, Valanciunas, Cousins, and Dwight in the Hockey rink or on a baseball field and you wouldn't be allowed to fight there either...[/QUOTE]
Your kidding right?
Have you heard of John Scott? Zdeno Chara? Dustin Byfuglien? Brian McGratten? All those guys would murder any of the guys mentioned above. And there are a lot more
Wayne Gretzy was an amazing player.
[QUOTE=Lebron23]Wayne Gretzy was an amazing player.[/QUOTE]
Probably the number one untouchable guy. I've heard stories about players hitting him hard and then getting destroyed moments later by an Oilers/Kings enforcer. I'm going to go watch some youtube of him now. :bowdown:
[QUOTE=Akrazotile]Theyre not really accepted, not by the league anyhow. Dudes get suspended for participating in brawls. At least Im pretty sure they do.[/QUOTE]
Yeah, I think suspensions are handed out but I think they are basically slaps on the wrist. The Pirates had a pretty intense fight with the Brewers this season and the longest suspension was 5 games with a couple others only getting 1 or 2. Meanwhile everyone else who storms the field is just told to go sit back down. It is still viewed largely as a part of the history of the sport.
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Football would be way better if we had this every game
[QUOTE=hateraid]Your kidding right?
Have you heard of John Scott? Zdeno Chara? Dustin Byfuglien? Brian McGratten? All those guys would murder any of the guys mentioned above. And there are a lot more[/QUOTE]
Those guys are basically midgets compared to the NBA players I listed. Nene would tear them into small pieces. Or James Johnson.
[QUOTE=oarabbus]Those guys are basically midgets compared to the NBA players I listed. Nene would tear them into small pieces. Or James Johnson.[/QUOTE]
... yeah ok :roll: :roll: :oldlol:
[QUOTE=oarabbus]Those guys are basically midgets compared to the NBA players I listed. Nene would tear them into small pieces. Or James Johnson.[/QUOTE]
Chara would destroy any NBA player.
they couldn't stop the game, so they stopped the players.
[QUOTE=oarabbus]Those guys are basically midgets compared to the NBA players I listed. Nene would tear them into small pieces. Or James Johnson.[/QUOTE]
John Scott is 6'7 245 and pummels any of those guys you mentioned, and he's not the top enforcer in the league. Zdeno is 6'8. Byfuglien is 6'4 260. McGratten who is probably the toughest guy in the NHL is 6'4 235 and would crumple Nene. Not to mention a couple of these guys are skilled skaters who can fore check like a James Harrison tackle.
so your example is way off based
Reading over this thread again...Good discussion.
If y'all have any questions or murky perceptions of the NHL or hockey in general, feel free to ask.
I'll drop more knowledge about my first love (outside my moms)
Oh and it's pretty much inarguable that...
Gretzky > Jordan in relation to their respective sports
[QUOTE=hateraid]John Scott is 6'7 245 and pummels any of those guys you mentioned, and he's not the top enforcer in the league. Zdeno is 6'8. Byfuglien is 6'4 260. McGratten who is probably the toughest guy in the NHL is 6'4 235 and would crumple Nene. Not to mention a couple of these guys are skilled skaters who can fore check like a James Harrison tackle.
so your example is way off based[/QUOTE]
James Johnson 6'9" 250lbs trained in MMA and would destroy all those guys without breaking a sweat.
Panda's friend AKA Metta World Peace aka Ron Artest too
Niccas aren't doing that on ice skates.
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james johnson is an exception .. not the norm in the nba .. how many guys have black belts and kickboxing experience in the nba .. nba players = fake tough guys ..
and lol@bringing up that bitch artest ..
that fggt backed off like a bitch when wallace shoved him but he jumped into the stands when a tiny fan threw some liquid on him :lol
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[QUOTE=oarabbus]James Johnson 6'9" 250lbs trained in MMA and would destroy all those guys without breaking a sweat.
Panda's friend AKA Metta World Peace aka Ron Artest too[/QUOTE]
That's 1 individual compared to a culture built to fight. Your sample size doesn't make your case any better. Also there are a ton of brutes in the NHL who train MMA who are battle tested in the field I bet McGratten destroys Johnson on the ice and the streets