Religion aside, abortion is wrong. All babies deserve a chance to live

I can dominate this thread if I choose to, but I will let it play out until someone thinks he has the last word.

Abortion is wrong, I agree, but people are so irresponsible that they have kids in situations where they can't take care of them among other things. So, in the worst possible circumstance does a baby deserve to live a shit life and grow up as a deviant or psychopath? It's just bad all around. For me, I'd advise people I know against it. I would never do it, and if she aborted my baby I'd snap, but as for the world, I can't get mad over what other people are doing. Been there, it's not good for your health.

-Smak

[QUOTE=sweggeh]This is nothing to do with religion, read the thread title.[/QUOTE]
I was just asking a question.

Anyway, back to my main point: If you're not a woman, you don't get an opinion. Butt out.

It's legal and upheld by the Supreme Court of the United States.

If you want to try to help do YOUR part to [B]reduce[/B] the number of abortions, here's what you can do:

Donate money to Planned Parenthood and other providers of free contraceptives.

Donate or volunteer to educate youth about birth control, safe sex, etc.

Vote for the local political candidates who support comprehensive sex ed and subsidized birth control methods. Do NOT vote for candidates that wish to legislate "abstinence only" sexual education.

I can hook you up with more ways to help out if you like. Let me know.

[QUOTE=Droid101]I was just asking a question.

Anyway, back to my main point: If you're not a woman, you don't get an opinion. Butt out.

It's legal and upheld by the Supreme Court of the United States.

If you want to try to help do YOUR part to [B]reduce[/B] the number of abortions, here's what you can do:

Donate money to Planned Parenthood and other providers of free contraceptives.

Donate or volunteer to educate youth about birth control, safe sex, etc.

Vote for the local political candidates who support comprehensive sex ed and subsidized birth control methods. Do NOT vote for candidates that wish to legislate "abstinence only" sexual education.

I can hook you up with more ways to help out if you like. Let me know.[/QUOTE]

Why do people need money to teach people safe sex? What is school for? The majority of people know all about sex ed but these women are so insatiable that they disregard the future for a few minutes with some hard di.ck.

Also, why are women the only people allowed to discuss this? Let me guess, because its their body right? Thats the stupidest thing I have ever heard. Once you have a kid in you it is your responsibility to protect it. When a passenger is in my car, I may own the car but I still have a responsibility to maintain the safety of my passenger. I cant just push them out in the middle of the road because I am too lazy and say "its my car!".

[QUOTE=sweggeh]Why do people need money to teach people safe sex? What is school for? The majority of people know all about sex ed but these women are so insatiable that they disregard the future for a few minutes with some hard di.ck.[/quote]You realize some schools just say "The only way to stay safe is to not have sex at all" and leave it at that, right? If you don't teach boys and girls about birth control methods and how to avoid STD's and unwanted pregnancy, then you're going to have more unwanted pregnancies. Period. Kids will have sex. Best they know all the ways to stay safe, right?

But anyway, I can already see why you have this opinion. You seem to think that all women are stupid sluts who can't keep their legs shut. Misogyny is strong with this one.

[QUOTE=sweggeh]Also, why are women the only people allowed to discuss this? Let me guess, because its their body right? Thats the stupidest thing I have ever heard. Once you have a kid in you it is your responsibility to protect it. When a passenger is in my car, I may own the car but I still have a responsibility to maintain the safety of my passenger. I cant just push them out in the middle of the road because I am too lazy and say "its my car!".[/QUOTE]

A passenger in your car as an analogy to pregnancy, which is a medical ailment? Ooohkay. No need to bother with this one.

[QUOTE=sweggeh]
When a passenger is in my car, I may own the car but I still have a responsibility to maintain the safety of my passenger. I cant just push them out in the middle of the road because I am too lazy and say "its my car!".[/QUOTE]

terrible analogy

you can kick another passenger out of your car for any reason whatsoever.

[QUOTE=Nanners]terrible analogy

you can kick another passenger out of your car for any reason whatsoever.[/QUOTE]

Not if the result would be their death, aka on the freeway.

Keeping the kid instead of aborting is punishing the child not the adult. Foster care again punishes the child not the adult. I will never ever understand why people get upset over laws that will NEVER AFFECT THEM. If you would never get an abortion regardless of whether or not its legal, who cares? Your kid will never be in danger. How will gay marriage affect you? How will legal weed affect you? People just love making decisions for other people.

[QUOTE=Droid101]I wonder how many times they mention abortion in the Bible.[/QUOTE]

I recall God was not very fond of Job. and picked on him as an example for satan.

[QUOTE=KyrieTheFuture]Keeping the kid instead of aborting is punishing the child not the adult. Foster care again punishes the child not the adult. [B]I will never ever understand why people get upset over laws that will NEVER AFFECT THEM.[/B] If you would never get an abortion regardless of whether or not its legal, who cares? Your kid will never be in danger. How will gay marriage affect you? How will legal weed affect you? People just love making decisions for other people.[/QUOTE]


well, survival the fittest tells us that something like abortion/legal weed affects people very much so. and if not, the survival and strength of a country in the bigger picture.

as for the human species? we are simply not advanced enough to have the mental capacity to be considerate at such grand scheme.

[QUOTE=GimmeThat]well, [B]survival the fittest tells us that something like abortion/legal weed affects people very much so. and if not, the survival and strength of a country in the bigger picture. [/B]

as for the human species? we are simply not advanced enough to have the mental capacity to be considerate at such grand scheme.[/QUOTE]
:roll: :roll: :roll: :roll: :roll:

What the **** are you trying to say?

[QUOTE=GimmeThat]well, survival the fittest tells us that something like abortion/legal weed affects people very much so. and if not, the survival and strength of a country in the bigger picture.
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[QUOTE=KyrieTheFuture]:roll: :roll: :roll: :roll: :roll:

What the **** are you trying to say?[/QUOTE]

that I don't think paying tax dollars just for government to raise kids who has got no parent oversighting sounds like a good idea.

as for legal weed, it's probably more so a matter of once there's enough productive workers who smokes weed then it may become more acceptable. if it is scientifically impossible to prove that when the majority of the population are smoking weed, our productivity remains the same, then you can't tell me it doesn't affect others, especially potential future employers.

as for alcohol?

I don't know if weed makes people horny and just starts humping another, but alcohol sure does the trick.

government propaganda?


meh

Devils Advocate viewpoint

What makes people think they have the right to tell someone else what they can and cannot do based on their own personal beliefs in the first place?

A woman having an abortion does not impact you as an individual, it impacts on your personal feelings and beliefs, why should a woman wanting an abortion give 2 shits about your perception or moral standpoint on the issue, what makes you as an individual so important to dictate to others how to live their life?

[QUOTE=Big_Dogg]Devils Advocate viewpoint

What makes people think they have the right to tell someone else what they can and cannot do based on their own personal beliefs in the first place?

A woman having an abortion does not impact you as an individual, it impacts on your personal feelings and beliefs, why should a woman wanting an abortion give 2 shits about your perception or moral standpoint on the issue, what makes you as an individual so important to dictate to others how to live their life?[/QUOTE]
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Ignorance in this instance = crap

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Ignorance in this instance = crap[/QUOTE]
The **** are you going on about?

You can't tell a woman what to do with her body, period.

And as usual, anti abortion crusaders gloss over the substantive issues regarding abortion, choosing instead to keep saying "It's wrong, OMG killing babies is wroooooong" over and over like children.

If you can't address the very relevant issues concerning this, then your opinions are worthless because you haven't taken the time to look at the matter from all of the angles, tackled the tough questions, formulated viable solutions, etc. You are instead arguing purely based on emotion, which is not the way to have a reasonable debate.

abortion is as much as one stating its case to appeal its intercourse without protection from the first place.

when a woman tells the man they are unable to tell them what to do with their body. it means the man can not appeal its case of its mistake from the first place.