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[QUOTE=Jasper;14899413]could it be cause [B][U]no one had jobs and sitting at home[/U][/B] wondering where the ivermectin can be bought ?[/QUOTE]
Was that happening 2017, 2018 and 2019 before covid hit? I seem to recall record low unemployment and rising wages for blacks and hispanics under Trump. Here's a refresher:
Donald Trump gets little jobs credit from blacks, Hispanics
Published 6:47 PM EDT, [B]May 5, 2019[/B]
Black and Hispanic workers are seeing record-low unemployment and rising wages under President Trump, yet community leaders say it likely is not enough to sway their support to the president in next year’s election.
The unemployment rate for Hispanics dropped to 4.2% in April, the lowest level since the government began tracking the data in 1973.
Unemployment for black Americans was at a near historic low of 6.7%, up slightly from the record low set last year.
Average hourly pay rose 3.2% in the past 12 months. The fastest increase in pay was pocketed by low-wage workers, according to the Bureau of Labor Statistics.
“The new jobs report is further proof that the Trump economy continues to boom and deliver benefits that all Americans are feeling,” said Trump campaign spokeswoman Kayleigh McEnany. “With this kind of momentum, we look forward to hearing the economic plans of the Democrats as they spin tales about Americans not feeling the results of the Trump economy, when in fact workers everywhere can feel the boom.”
[url]https://apnews.com/article/business-elections-donald-trump-race-and-ethnicity-economy-c89c6b2231af504f12158c7afc38acc9[/url]
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[QUOTE=j3lademaster;14899425]I’m not gonna go into why these metrics are misleading since none of this ever goes anywhere. I’ll just keep it simple. What should Biden, or any president in his place, do about lagging wages? Corporations and shareholders are seeing record profits so the money is there. That’s the govt job after all, to make sure the market can flourish right? Should he micro how corporations spread wealth within their own company? Why not pay their workers? You guys don’t want social safety nets that allow people to be pickier about their pay and job prospects, you want deregulation and less labor laws, you think the [B]$20 min wage in ca is abhorrent[/B]; so tell me… what should the president do about lagging wages.[/QUOTE]
And what does a $20 min wage in CA do? Drive up prices, push automation and job loss.
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Why the **** would anyone pretend to be an old white women on a basketball forum? Who's alt is this?
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[QUOTE=rmt;14899488]And what does a $20 min wage in CA do? Drive up prices, push automation and job loss.[/QUOTE]
I agree, but answer the question. You’re blaming Biden for lagging wages, so obviously you believe there’s a policy he can enforce at the macro level to remedy this.
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[QUOTE=j3lademaster;14899425]I’m not gonna go into why these metrics are misleading since none of this ever goes anywhere. I’ll just keep it simple. What should Biden, or any president in his place, do about lagging wages? Corporations and shareholders are seeing record profits so the money is there. That’s the govt job after all, to make sure the market can flourish right? Should he micro how corporations spread wealth within their own company? Why not pay their workers? You guys don’t want social safety nets that allow people to be pickier about their pay and job prospects, you want deregulation and less labor laws, you think the $20 min wage in ca is abhorrent; so tell me… what should the president do about lagging wages.[/QUOTE]
If Biden were to do that, Republicans/conservatives would be crying "COMMUNISM!!" It's clear that they are only bitchin' due to who is in power. It's meant to be misleading and disingenuous.
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[QUOTE=rmt;14899484]Was that happening 2017, 2018 and 2019 [B][U][I]before covid hit[/I][/U][/B]? I seem to recall record low unemployment and rising wages for blacks and hispanics under Trump. Here's a refresher:
Donald Trump gets little jobs credit from blacks, Hispanics
Published 6:47 PM EDT, [B]May 5, 2019[/B]
Black and Hispanic workers are seeing record-low unemployment and rising wages under President Trump, yet community leaders say it likely is not enough to sway their support to the president in next year’s election.
The unemployment rate for Hispanics dropped to 4.2% in April, the lowest level since the government began tracking the data in 1973.
Unemployment for black Americans was at a near historic low of 6.7%, up slightly from the record low set last year.
Average hourly pay rose 3.2% in the past 12 months. The fastest increase in pay was pocketed by low-wage workers, according to the Bureau of Labor Statistics.
“The new jobs report is further proof that the Trump economy continues to boom and deliver benefits that all Americans are feeling,” said Trump campaign spokeswoman Kayleigh McEnany. “With this kind of momentum, we look forward to hearing the economic plans of the Democrats as they spin tales about Americans not feeling the results of the Trump economy, when in fact workers everywhere can feel the boom.”
[url]https://apnews.com/article/business-elections-donald-trump-race-and-ethnicity-economy-c89c6b2231af504f12158c7afc38acc9[/url][/QUOTE]
Ding ding ding. You answered yourself in your very first sentence.
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[QUOTE=rmt;14899401]Bidenflation Soars To 18.8%, Squeezing Americans
[B]Inflation results from excessive Federal Reserve money printing and government spending, expanding the money supply[/B].[/QUOTE]
You’re being really dumb or at least tunnel-visioned here. Inflation results from a variety of factors. Massive tax cuts are a big factor.
Just in case someone is going to spin this as me being pro taxing everyone out the ass..that’s not what I’m saying. But you willingly ignoring a huge part of the equation is wild to me.
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[QUOTE=ShawkFactory;14899634]You’re being really dumb or at least tunnel-visioned here. [B]Inflation results from a variety of factors. Massive tax cuts are a big factor.[/B]
Just in case someone is going to spin this as me being pro taxing everyone out the ass..that’s not what I’m saying. But you willingly ignoring a huge part of the equation is wild to me.[/QUOTE]
As a temporary effect, yeah, but in the long term they technically shouldnt be, whatever money the government collects through taxes still ultimately goes somewhere else. The same amount of money will still exist. If the money is out there it's gonna find it's way into the market one way or another.
Ultimately the only DIRECT way to inflate the dollar as far as I'm aware is to increase the supply of money or reduce the supply of goods. That's what a dollar's value comes down to. You could argue a variety of different factors can lead to one of those things happening. But the direct cause of inflation is gonna be one of those two things, methinks.
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Anyway inflation does suck for us, because we end up with less disposable income, at least for a time, but think of all the places around the world where there is no disposable income, and rising food prices equate to outright starvation. That's actually happening. It doesnt get a ton of play in the news but tens of millions of people around the world who WERENT starving before covid are starving now.
And yeah I know some people will say "well the planet is overpopulated" and yes that is absolutely true, but that doesnt mean covid and the response to it was some kinda calculated thing specifically timed to have this effect on a planet with unsustainable population growth and development. It just means that pandemics happen sometimes. Well I mean they hadnt happened in a long time, but this one happened. And we just have to deal with it. On the bright side, it significantly sped up the path to reduced carbon emissions in the developed world. On the tragic side, millions in the third world died due to the supply chain disruptions caused by Covid.
So when you pay an extra 30, 40 cents for eggs just remember that huge numbers of people in Sri Lanka and Ghana and Yemen are actually dying off. So much so that the continuous encroachment on natural preserves and wildlife in these regions is probably even reversing to an extent. It's a humanitarian tragedy. Just remember that the extra 30 cents you pay each time you buy eggs is killing those people off. Youre paying 30 cents more to eradicate human life in these places. And you can thank Joe Biden for that. I mean that sarcastically of course, because it's a terrible thing that I'm not happy is happening. Thanks a lot Joe.
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[QUOTE=j3lademaster;14899561]I agree, but answer the question. You’re blaming Biden for lagging wages, so obviously you believe there’s a policy he can enforce at the macro level to remedy this.[/QUOTE]
Where exactly do you see me blaming Biden for lagging wages? I object to Biden's spending and CA's passing of a $20 minimum (restaurant?) wage.
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[QUOTE=SATAN;14899553]Why the **** would anyone pretend to be an old white women on a basketball forum? Who's alt is this?[/QUOTE]
LOL - you are assuming I'm white. I acknowledge the old (although I would say middle aged) woman.
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[QUOTE=ShawkFactory;14899634]You’re being really dumb or at least tunnel-visioned here. Inflation results from a variety of factors. [B]Massive tax cuts are a big factor[/B].
Just in case someone is going to spin this as me being pro taxing everyone out the ass..that’s not what I’m saying. But you willingly ignoring a huge part of the equation is wild to me.[/QUOTE]
Is there [B]MORE[/B] money in the system when there are massive tax cuts? I would say NO - it's the same amount of money - just a matter of [B]WHO[/B] has/gets the money - the government OR everybody else (taxpayer, corporations, etc.). I believe the government should [B][U]SPEND[/U][/B] what/less than they take in (of course, I don't mean special situations like world wars, covid, etc.). So you probably mean the deficit (less tax revenue without cutting spending) - but I have already shown the inflation numbers under Trump and [B]his tax cuts did not significantly affect inflation.[/B]
So, going forward, who thinks Biden's $7.3 trillion budget is going to make inflation worse than whatever Trump would put forward? I don't think (even with increased defense spending), Trump's budget would be that crazy. Regarding defense spending - I think they should move away from the big stuff [aircraft carriers/planes] and toward drones/technology/AI [collaborate with Silicon Valley (lol-that ain't happening)] and streamline. Every department in federal government should cut their budget 2% until this debt is under control. But no, they're probably going to continue with this automatic annual % increase and nutty spending until our dollar is worthless/no longer the world's reserve currency (then we'll really be in ****).
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[QUOTE=SATAN;14899553]Why the **** would anyone pretend to be an old white women on a basketball forum? Who's alt is this?[/QUOTE]
Check my Join Date: Feb 2008 (probably my frustration with small ball/Suns/Mavs). Current objection seems to be on my political views - not my basketball takes all these years.
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I have some sad news. Paksat has passed away. Cause of death was sheer embarrassment. RIP :(
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The brainwashed dementia patient forgot she already replied to that comment :biggums:
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[QUOTE=SATAN;14899810]The brainwashed dementia patient forgot she already replied to that comment :biggums:[/QUOTE]
Nope - I wanted to add to the reply because the reaction/insults to political posts seem much more oversized than to basketball posts (but original would not let me edit) but you just reinforced my point.
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Literally too brainwashed to acknowledge that the system isn't this simple thing where Biden comes in, clicks his fingers and fixes everything. Always looking for ways to victimize themselves lmao.
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bought a dozen eggs 2 weeks ago , haven't used them ...
willing to give them away to a MEGA
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[QUOTE=SATAN;14900098]Literally too brainwashed to acknowledge that the system isn't this simple thing where Biden comes in, clicks his fingers and fixes everything. Always looking for ways to victimize themselves lmao.[/QUOTE]
May god help you.
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[QUOTE=warriorfan;14900429]May god help you.[/QUOTE]
He is spot on. Joe Biden does not control egg prices. To be fair Trump was pegged unfairly the same way. But if we are going to make any kind of progress the general population really needs to stop pretending that Presidents are in complete control of the world's economy.
Even under that false guise Biden has done better with the US economy than the rest of the world has.
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[QUOTE=Bill Gates;14900450]He is spot on. Joe Biden does not control egg prices. To be fair Trump was pegged unfairly the same way. But if we are going to make any kind of progress the general population really needs to stop pretending that Presidents are in complete control of the world's economy.
Even under that false guise Biden has done better with the US economy than the rest of the world has.[/QUOTE]
May you lie down in green pastures, beside quiet waters, for your soul is in turmoil, in need of refreshing.
God bless you.
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[QUOTE=Bill Gates;14900450]He is spot on. Joe Biden does not control egg prices. To be fair Trump was pegged unfairly the same way. But if we are going to make any kind of progress the general population really needs to stop pretending that Presidents are in [B][U]complete control[/U][/B] of the [B][U]world[/U][/B]'s economy.
Even under that false guise Biden has done better with the US economy than the rest of the world has.[/QUOTE]
Who said anything about [B][U]complete control[/U][/B] or [B][U]world[/U][/B] economy? Way to [B][U]DOUBLE COVER[/U][/B] yourself - lol.
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[QUOTE=rmt;14900458]Who said anything about [B][U]complete control[/U][/B] or [B][U]world[/U][/B] economy? Way to [B][U]DOUBLE COVER[/U][/B] yourself - lol.[/QUOTE]
For the most part the entire globe is fighting inflation together. Clearly this is beyond the leader of any nation. But you can swap that to just 50% control of the US economy if you want to. And please feel free to explain how Joe Biden single handedly made eggs expensive.
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[QUOTE=Bill Gates;14900462]For the most part the entire globe is fighting inflation together. Clearly this is beyond the leader of any nation. But you can swap that to just 50% control of the US economy if you want to. And please feel free to explain how Joe Biden single handedly made eggs expensive.[/QUOTE]
Good luck explaining logic to rmt or any of the Trumpeters. You won't get anywhere. They think everything was wonderful under lil Donny and everything bad under biden. They don't realize that we were hit by covid and just came out of shutdowns a year and half ago. Inflation has come down significantly, and we are doing better than pretty much all of the developed countries.
All they have are numbers before covid but that means leaving out the elephant in the room (covid, shutdowns). Rmt is being intentionally obtuse, knowing full well the impact of covid, but it would damage the agenda.
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[QUOTE=bladefd;14900466]Good luck explaining logic to rmt or any of the Trumpeters. You won't get anywhere. They think everything was wonderful under lil Donny and everything bad under biden. [B][SIZE=4]They don't realize that we were hit by covid and just came out of shutdowns a year and half ago.[/SIZE][/B] Inflation has come down significantly, and we are doing better than pretty much all of the developed countries.
All they have are numbers before covid but that means leaving out the elephant in the room (covid, shutdowns). Rmt is being intentionally obtuse, knowing full well the impact of covid, but it would damage the agenda.[/QUOTE]
"Wait, you mean shutting down entire sectors of the economy and the public school system for TWO years wasn't a good idea???..."
[IMG]https://i.kym-cdn.com/photos/images/newsfeed/001/797/816/d51.gifv[/IMG]
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[QUOTE=Baller234;14900523]"Wait, you mean shutting down entire sectors of the economy and the public school system for TWO years wasn't a good idea???..."
[IMG]https://i.kym-cdn.com/photos/images/newsfeed/001/797/816/d51.gifv[/IMG][/QUOTE]
Iirc, Trump (after following the ILL-advice of public health officials like Fauci, Birx, etc) quickly realized the shutdown was a mistake and pushed for opening up. It was the DEMS who wanted us at home and masked and who were big on shutdowns - especially the teachers' unions. Republican states (like my home state Florida) pushed for opening up. Are you seriously absolving Dems of blame - what revisionist history.
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Unvaccinated were dying at a significant higher rate than vaccinated throughout the 2020-2023 saga. The virus got weaker as time went by with later variants. Shutdown was the right call at least from summer 2020 to spring 2022 once the majority was vaccinated.
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[QUOTE=bladefd;14900572]Unvaccinated were dying at a significant higher rate than vaccinated throughout the 2020-2023 saga. The virus got weaker as time went by with later variants.[B] Shutdown was the right call at least from summer 2020 to spring 2022[/B] once the majority was vaccinated.[/QUOTE]
[B]Dems during the summer of 2020:[/B]
"We need to shut everything down! Stay home! Stop the spread!"
[B]Also dems during the summer of 2020:[/B]
[IMG]https://media.newyorker.com/photos/5ed58a433b1f2c5c1faa9511/master/pass/Washington-HoustonGeorgeFloydProtest.jpg[/IMG]
[IMG]https://compote.slate.com/images/078108e2-839c-4a54-8614-cb0348e6b48b.jpeg?crop=3936%2C2624%2Cx0%2Cy0[/IMG]
[IMG]https://csis-website-prod.s3.amazonaws.com/s3fs-public/publication/200612_BLM.jpg[/IMG]
Yup, these unvaccinated dems look REALLY concerned about Covid.
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[QUOTE=bladefd;14900572]Unvaccinated were dying at a significant higher rate than vaccinated throughout the 2020-2023 saga. The virus got weaker as time went by with later variants. [B][U]Shutdown was the right call[/U][/B] at least from summer 2020 to spring 2022 once the majority was vaccinated.[/QUOTE]
I strongly disagree - especially for kids. The unnecessary long-term harm to our children is a DISGRACE.
During the COVID-19 pandemic, [B]Sweden[/B] was among the few countries that [B]did not enforce strict lockdown measures[/B] but instead relied more on voluntary and sustainable mitigation recommendations. While supported by the majority of Swedes, this approach faced rapid and continuous criticism. Unfortunately, the respectful debate centered around scientific evidence often gave way to mudslinging. However, the available data on excess all-cause mortality rates indicate that [B][U]Sweden experienced fewer deaths per population unit during the pandemic (2020–2022) than most high-income countries and was comparable to neighboring Nordic countries through the pandemic[/U][/B]. An open, objective scientific dialogue is essential for learning and preparing for future outbreaks.
[url]https://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pmc/articles/PMC10399217/[/url]
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[QUOTE=rmt;14900648]I strongly disagree - especially for kids. The unnecessary long-term harm to our children is a DISGRACE.
During the COVID-19 pandemic, [B]Sweden[/B] was among the few countries that [B]did not enforce strict lockdown measures[/B] but instead relied more on voluntary and sustainable mitigation recommendations. While supported by the majority of Swedes, this approach faced rapid and continuous criticism. Unfortunately, the respectful debate centered around scientific evidence often gave way to mudslinging. However, the available data on excess all-cause mortality rates indicate that [B][U]Sweden experienced fewer deaths per population unit during the pandemic (2020–2022) than most high-income countries and was comparable to neighboring Nordic countries through the pandemic[/U][/B]. An open, objective scientific dialogue is essential for learning and preparing for future outbreaks.
[url]https://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pmc/articles/PMC10399217/[/url][/QUOTE]
Who teaches kids in schools?
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Her rmt, blade clearly has me on ignore because he is a coward so ask him the following question.
During the summer of 2020, was he on "Team Stay Home" or "Team Go Out and Protest". Since he was so concerned about Covid.
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[QUOTE=Baller234;14900690]Her rmt, blade clearly has me on ignore because he is a coward so ask him the following question.
During the summer of 2020, was he on "Team Stay Home" or "Team Go Out and Protest". Since he was so concerned about Covid.[/QUOTE]
blade is on permanent Team Stay Home since he mentioned to us earlier that his apartment complex lacks the proper wheelchair access to leave the building. :(
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[QUOTE=bladefd;14900676]Who teaches kids in schools?[/QUOTE]
Couldn't find for teachers - here are employees:
Miami-Dade County Public Schools Employee Average Age
Less than 18 years 5%
18-20 years 8%
20-30 years 39%
30-40 years 23%
[B]40+ years 23%[/B]
[url]https://www.zippia.com/miami-dade-county-public-schools-careers-291405/demographics/[/url]
Only 23% (of employees) over 40 years old - if career teacher (say started after college graduation) and works 30 years for pension, they would retire at 52. How many teachers are over 52 years old? What do you consider old? So, instead of allowing a small percentage of "old" teachers to teach remotely, teachers' unions forced all students (and teachers) to go remote.
And who teaches kids in schools in Sweden? And their death rate was not significantly worse than countries who shutdown.
Aren't there OLD doctors, nurses, firefighters, EMTs, etc? What's so special about teachers? Oh yes, they work with the age group LEAST likely to be affected by covid. Yet the teachers' unions/Democratic arm forced closed schools (sometimes long) after other areas/businesses opened up.
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During the pandemic, mostly every other industry was forced to adapt on the fly in order to stay operational. I remember sitting in on countless zoom meetings and had to jump through all sorts of hoops every time a new guideline or restriction was handed out. The state did everything they could to make it harder for us to work... but we stuck it out and worked around it the best way we could, even it required having to move mountains sometimes. We had no other choice.
The public school sector on the other hand did everything they could to AVOID having to re-open. Over a year into the pandemic and some states hadn't even formulated a plan yet. Didn't take a rocket scientist to see what was really going on.
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what it should have been:
[URL="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Great_Barrington_Declaration"]Great Barrington Declaration[/URL]
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[QUOTE=Patrick Chewing;14900693]blade is on permanent Team Stay Home since he mentioned to us earlier that his apartment complex lacks the proper wheelchair access to leave the building. :([/QUOTE]
:roll:
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[QUOTE=rmt;14900697]Couldn't find for teachers - here are employees:
Miami-Dade County Public Schools Employee Average Age
Less than 18 years 5%
18-20 years 8%
20-30 years 39%
30-40 years 23%
[B]40+ years 23%[/B]
[url]https://www.zippia.com/miami-dade-county-public-schools-careers-291405/demographics/[/url]
Only 23% (of employees) over 40 years old - if career teacher (say started after college graduation) and works 30 years for pension, they would retire at 52. How many teachers are over 52 years old? What do you consider old? So, instead of allowing a small percentage of "old" teachers to teach remotely, teachers' unions forced all students (and teachers) to go remote.
And who teaches kids in schools in Sweden? And their death rate was not significantly worse than countries who shutdown.
Aren't there OLD doctors, nurses, firefighters, EMTs, etc? What's so special about teachers? Oh yes, they work with the age group LEAST likely to be affected by covid. Yet the teachers' unions/Democratic arm forced closed schools (sometimes long) after other areas/businesses opened up.[/QUOTE]
:facepalm
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[QUOTE=Off the Court;14898862][IMG]https://golfdigest.sports.sndimg.com/content/dam/images/golfdigest/fullset/2023/patreed_porsche2.jpg.rend.hgtvcom.966.644.suffix/1682606542082.jpeg[/IMG]
I found a pic of his new Porche.[/QUOTE]
:roll: