Ja Morant on video flashing another gun

[QUOTE=Kblaze8855;14777736]It just makes me wonder how many people on the internet would be calling me and my group of largely harmless friends wannabe thugs if social media existed. Just listening to music and holding a gun? There was always music on around my friends at his age and occasionally a gun. And we had way less reason to be armed than an easily identifiable young millionaire who lives in Memphis.

As I said he needs someone on top of everyone’s phone activity but the behavior itself? We don’t need to be talking about thugs and “gangstas”.[/QUOTE]

Nobody actually thinks he's dangerous or a real thug. He's trying to portray himself as a thug... as hard... as street... that is what he is obviously portraying.

Of course he's having fun at the same time. Has a shit ton of money bumping music? Yeah its all fun. But he's trying to portray an image. Denying that is retarded.

Owning a gun, and then waving that gun recklessly for the camera doesn’t make Morant a thug. It just makes him young and irresponsible.

If he was at the shooting range safely handling firearms the NBA would have no issues. But he’s in a moving vehicle putting a pistol to his own head.

[QUOTE=AlternativeAcc.;14777740]Nobody actually thinks he's dangerous or a real thug. He's trying to portray himself as a thug... as hard... as street... that is what he is obviously portraying.

Of course he's having fun at the same time. Has a shit ton of money bumping music? Yeah its all fun. But he's trying to portray an image. Denying that is retarded.[/QUOTE]



Holding a gun doesn’t mean you are trying to look like a thug or be “street”. It means you’re holding a gun.

Who do you think he’s trying to pretend for exactly? His friends and family who know what he is or isn’t? The public?

You think he only does that when a friend goes on live?

Hes doing it hanging around his friends…amongst whom…it would be very hard to pretend to be anything.

He’s ****ing around. That’s all. It doesn’t have to have a goal. People have ****ed around like that around me with music on and without. They weren’t trying to pretend anything. Just a laugh.

[QUOTE=Kblaze8855;14777748]Holding a gun doesn’t mean you are trying to look like a thug or be “street”. It means you’re holding a gun.

Who do you think he’s trying to pretend for exactly? His friends and family who know what he is or isn’t? The public?

You think he only does that when a friend goes on live?

Hes doing it hanging around his friends…amongst whom…it would be very hard to pretend to be anything.

He’s ****ing around. That’s all. It doesn’t have to have a goal. People have ****ed around like that around me with music on and without. They weren’t trying to pretend anything. Just a laugh.[/QUOTE]

I think you're forgetting, Ja throws up Crip gang signs during games. The guy absolutely is a wannabe thug.

[QUOTE=Kblaze8855;14777748]Holding a gun doesn’t mean you are trying to look like a thug or be “street”. It means you’re holding a gun.

Who do you think he’s trying to pretend for exactly? His friends and family who know what he is or isn’t? The public?

You think he only does that when a friend goes on live?

Hes doing it hanging around his friends…amongst whom…it would be very hard to pretend to be anything.

He’s ****ing around. That’s all.[/QUOTE]

I know he's fukking around.. he's obviously not putting much thought into his actions. He's bumping rap and posing with a gun... he's portraying an image.. to his friends, to the public...

You act like because he's fukking around that he also isn't portraying an image even if its to his buddies. This the guy that beat up a 17 year old? Posing with guns and beating up minors. Hmmm. Just having fun right? Nothing to see. You're delusional.

[QUOTE=HoopsNY;14777753]I think you're forgetting, Ja throws up Crip gang signs during games. The guy absolutely is a wannabe thug.[/QUOTE]

Just having fun man. Posing with guns, throwing gang signs, beating up minors.

Just having fun. :roll:

[QUOTE=HoopsNY;14777753]I think you're forgetting, Ja throws up Crip gang signs during games. The guy absolutely is a wannabe thug.[/QUOTE]

I forgot about this. lol

Just a young man exercising his second amendment rights. You go Ja :cheers:

[QUOTE=HoopsNY;14777753]I think you're forgetting, Ja throws up Crip gang signs during games. The guy absolutely is a wannabe thug.[/QUOTE]



I could tell you about many many people who both C walked and weren’t actually saying they were crips but it feels like there is such a cultural divide Id be wasting my time.

Some things some people just aren’t gonna understand. I’ll leave it at this…ISH would probably think my entire friend group were thugs for a good 30 year run there. Not a one in the group. Not one who wishes he were or wants people to think it.

Just…fairly common shit. Luckily…no camera phones.

I won’t even go into all the actual drug dealers who also had guns but absolutely were not thugs or gangster types you encounter where I’m from. I’d never be able to make ISH understand how that happens.

[QUOTE=Patrick Chewing;14776963]Sometimes I think you're playing around, but then other times I think you're [B]the dumbest and most ignorant poster on this site.[/B][/QUOTE]

That would actually be yourself.

[QUOTE=1987_Lakers;14777712]How did this thread turn into race?[/QUOTE]

Because this board is full of idiots who are addicted to making everything about race. And I'll call out any race on this forum and blast them for their hypocrisy and double standards. First it was the N word they were bitching and moaning about. Now, they're bitching and moaning about being called a thug and gangster even if you actually look like or actually are a thug and a gangster. You can't win with these ISH Al Sharptons when they live their whole life under this notion that there is constant racial division and hatred in this country. There isn't. But they'll never cop to that.

[QUOTE=Kblaze8855;14777762]I could tell you about many many people who both C walked and weren’t actually saying they were crips but it feels like there is such a cultural divide Id be wasting my time.

Some things some people just aren’t gonna understand. I’ll leave it at this…ISH would probably think my entire friend group were thugs for a good 30 year run there. Not a one in the group. Not one who wishes he were or wants people to think it.

Just…fairly common shit. Luckily…no camera phones.

I won’t even go into all the actual drug dealers who also had guns but absolutely were not thugs or gangster types you encounter where I’m from. I’d never be able to make ISH understand how that happens.[/QUOTE]
Nobody cares about your friends growing up.

He poses with guns, throws up gang signs, and Beats up minors. He quite obviously is trying to live a thuggish life.

I grew up around black kids too. Hell, a lot of my white friends wore red bandanas and threw up blood signs. They grew up though. Ja apparently didn't.

You are not speaking on some magical culture that people don't understand. It's actually quite amazing that you think you are.


I'm pretty sure Shannon grew up in the hood and he calls Ja a fake gangster. Everybody is in agreement but you... don't you find that weird?

[QUOTE=Patrick Chewing;14777764]Because this board is full of idiots who are addicted to making everything about race. And I'll call out any race on this forum and blast them for their hypocrisy and double standards. First it was the N word they were bitching and moaning about. Now, they're bitching and moaning about being called a thug and gangster even if you actually look like or actually are a thug and a gangster. You can't win with these [B]ISH Al Sharptons[/B] when they live their whole life under this notion that there is constant racial division and hatred in this country. There isn't. But they'll never cop to that.[/QUOTE]

[IMG]https://thumbs.gfycat.com/KnobbyWhirlwindCoypu-size_restricted.gif[/IMG]

Seriously though, I'm Mexican and grew up in the hood, but it is kinda annoying seeing race get brought up in every discussion nowadays.

[QUOTE=Patrick Chewing;14777764]Because this board is full of idiots who are addicted to making everything about race. And I'll call out any race on this forum and blast them for their hypocrisy and double standards. First it was the N word they were bitching and moaning about. Now, they're bitching and moaning about being called a thug and gangster even if you actually look like or actually are a thug and a gangster. You can't win with these ISH Al Sharptons when they live their whole life under this notion that there is constant racial division and hatred in this country. There isn't. But they'll never cop to that.[/QUOTE]

The forum Grand Wizard has spoken.

[QUOTE=1987_Lakers;14777767][IMG]https://thumbs.gfycat.com/KnobbyWhirlwindCoypu-size_restricted.gif[/IMG]

Seriously though, I'm Mexican and grew up in the hood, but it is kinda annoying seeing race get brought up in every discussion nowadays.[/QUOTE]

Ya estamos muy cansado de esta mierda. Todo en este país aparentemente gira sobre la raza y el color de una persona como si todavia estuviéramos viviendo en los 50's. Y en menos de cincuenta años cuando la mayoria de este país se convierte a Latino, yo espero que no tenemos que hablar mas de este otro color como los gringos le encantan hablar de ellos como si fueran Reyes or Dioses.

[QUOTE=AlternativeAcc.;14777765]Nobody cares about your friends growing up.

He poses with guns, throws up gang signs, and Beats up minors. He quite obviously is trying to live a thuggish life.

I grew up around black kids too. Hell, a lot of my white friends wore red bandanas and threw up blood signs. They grew up though. Ja apparently didn't.

You are not speaking on some magical culture that people don't understand. It's actually quite amazing that you think you are.


I'm pretty sure Shannon grew up in the hood and he calls Ja a fake gangster. Everybody is in agreement but you... don't you find that weird?[/QUOTE]



There is no “everybody”. I’m talking to some random people on the internet largely the type id expect to have these opinions about what constitutes a thug. I don’t come here to interact with people with a background I’d expect to mirror mine. My friends and I laughed about it last time and talked about a picture we have of my cousin waving a pistol in a fur coat like Pimp C.

We live in a society of fake outrage and quick often stereotypical judgements. I don’t look to people like you or chewing for agreement. All just putting in our two cents. Actually having done almost all the things in question while never being anything like a thug…nor trying to make people feel I was…I feel it’s relevant.

That video could be a dozen people I know none of whom is or wants to come off as a thug. People were doing that shit in my house as recently as like….2015. There’s a lot more to being a thug than playing around with someone’s gun when you have incredibly good reason to keep a gun.

[QUOTE=Kblaze8855;14777736]It just makes me wonder how many people on the internet would be calling me and my group of largely harmless friends wannabe thugs if social media existed. Just listening to music and holding a gun? There was always music on around my friends at his age and occasionally a gun. And we had way less reason to be armed than an easily identifiable young millionaire who lives in Memphis.

As I said he needs someone on top of everyone’s phone activity but the behavior itself? We don’t need to be talking about thugs and “gangstas”.[/QUOTE]

I guess it matters where you're from. In the northeast it's like...a hard-core felony to be going around flashing guns like that. But then in the south its totally legal. For a lot of people up north nobody has guns but the criminals.

[QUOTE=Kblaze8855;14777780]There is no “everybody”. I’m talking to some random people on the internet largely the type of expect to have these opinions about what constitutes a thug. I don’t come here to interact with people with a background I’d expect to mirror mine. My friends and I laughed about it last time and talked about a picture we have of my cousin waving a pistol in a fur coat like Pimp C.

We live in a society of fake outrage and quick often stereotypical judgements. I don’t look to people like you or chewing for agreement. All just putting in our two cents. Actually having done almost all the things in question while never being anything like a thug…nor trying to make people feel I was…I feel it’s relevant.

That video could be a dozen people I know none of whom is or wants to come off as a thug. People were doing that shit in my house as recently as like….2015. There’s a lot more to being a thug than playing around with someone’s gun when you have incredibly good reason to keep a gun.[/QUOTE]

You're missing the point... nobody thinks he's a real thug just like nobody thought the white kids in school wearing bandanas and listening to young Jeezy made them real thugs.

But they got in fights, stole shit, and acted like buffoons... they weren't literally gang banging though.


Ja has the mentality of a middle school suburban white kid who thinks he's a gangster. You don't pose with guns and beat up minors if you actually think you're a certain way.


This dude is a 100 million dollar athlete acting like a middle schooler... the criticism stems from the image he portrays and the mentality of it. Not hard to understand.

[QUOTE=Kblaze8855;14777762]I could tell you about many many people who both C walked and weren’t actually saying they were crips but it feels like there is such a cultural divide Id be wasting my time.[/QUOTE]

I'm from NYC and a person of color myself. I'm "urban" and went to urban schools growing up during the worst time the city had ever seen. So there really isn't a cultural divide per se.

Doing the C-Walk and throwing up Rollin 60s set w/neighborhood signs are absolutely not the same things. One is socially acceptable. The other is done through affiliation.

[QUOTE]Some things some people just aren’t gonna understand. I’ll leave it at this…ISH would probably think my entire friend group were thugs for a good 30 year run there. Not a one in the group. Not one who wishes he were or wants people to think it.[/QUOTE]

Yea, I get it. Believe me I do. But that doesn't change the fact that he's a wannabe.

[QUOTE]I won’t even go into all the actual drug dealers who also had guns but absolutely were not thugs or gangster types you encounter where I’m from. I’d never be able to make ISH understand how that happens.[/QUOTE]

I get that too, but no one is saying Ja is an actual thug. We're saying he's a wannabe, which he is.

[QUOTE=SATAN;14777763]That would actually be yourself.[/QUOTE]
Lmao

[QUOTE=HoopsNY;14777785]
[B]I get that too, but no one is saying Ja is an actual thug. We're saying he's a wannabe, which he is.[/B][/QUOTE]

i think you just skimmed the thread then

[QUOTE=highwhey;14777801]i think you just skimmed the thread then[/QUOTE]

The entire thread is people calling him an idiot and fake thug

The outrage is coming from u and kblaze claiming racism lol

[QUOTE=highwhey;14777801]i think you just skimmed the thread then[/QUOTE]

you were the first person to mention thug in this thread.

I didn’t call anybody racist. I said he’s being called a thug and a gangster because he’s black and he is. As I said a white guy of his age from South Carolina listening to their music holding guns is gonna be called a redneck not a thug or “gangsta”. Is anyone disputing that? That we as a society settle on the “thug” label more easily for a young black guy than a young white one?

Joel is a redneck. Ja is a thug. That was always gonna be the conversation.

[QUOTE=Kblaze8855;14777815]I didn’t call anybody racist. I said he’s being called a thug and a gangster because he’s black and he is. As I said a white guy of his age from South Carolina listening to their music holding guns is gonna be called a redneck not a thug or “gangsta”. Is anyone disputing that? That we as a society settle on the “thug” label more easily for a young black guy than a young white one?

Joel is a redneck. Ja is a thug. That was always gonna be the conversation.[/QUOTE]

You're completely wrong. They'd be called a w1gger or a wankster.

You ever seen Malibus most wanted?


Rednecks are kids who wear cowboy boots and shoot squirrels in the woods in their 90s Chevys.

If they posed with pistols, bumped rap, wore chains, and threw up gang signs they'd be called wanksters like early 2000s eminem.

50 cent made a song about it.


It's all about the actual image you portray. Jason Williams portrayed himself in a similar way... nobody called him a redneck. He was a w1gger. Why are you so confused lol

******? A wankster?

Have you talked to humans in the wild in the last 15 years or so?

[QUOTE=Kblaze8855;14777825]******? A wankster?

Have you talked to humans in the wild in the last 15 years or so?[/QUOTE]

:roll:

homie is stuck in 2003.

[QUOTE=Kblaze8855;14777825]******? A wankster?

Have you talked to humans in the wild in the last 15 years or so?[/QUOTE]

I know they wouldn't literally be called a wankster or w1gger... that is some early 2000s shit.

But they'd be called fake thugs, and a mixture of other terms that essentially mean the same thing. You're just arguing semantics now because you know I'm right.

Nice deflection though.

They’d be called rednecks. That’s what such people are called. No need to search for a word that nobody uses anymore and almost nobody ever did. Deep South, gun toting, white boys listening to Deep South gun toting white guy music and cutting up are called rednecks. Just the world we have.

[QUOTE=Kblaze8855;14777832]They’d be called rednecks. That’s what such people are called. No need to search for a word that nobody uses anymore and almost nobody ever did. Deep South, gun toting, white boys listening to Deep South gun toting white guy music are called rednecks. Just the world we have.[/QUOTE]

If Austin Reaves was shirtless in a vehicle with a million dollar chain on his neck, blasting rap music, and toting a pistol by his head with a grill in his mouth he would not be called a redneck. He would quite literally be called a fake thug just like Ja and it would resurrect the word 'w1gger' into the vernacular. Those words went away because white people wearing baggy clothes and acting like that went away.

It has nothing to do with the color of Ja's skin. How do you not understand this :roll:

[QUOTE=8Ball;14777696]Meltdown.

Your grizzlies are finished. Dillon Brooks gone, Ja Moron gonna be out 15-20 games next season.

His endorsements are gonna get wiped this week.[/QUOTE]
:yaohappy:

[QUOTE=Kblaze8855;14777825]

[B]Have you talked to humans in the wild in the last 15 years or so?[/B][/QUOTE]

:roll:

Dumb people go straight to the race card, what a surprise..

Ja is a moron. If your employer suspends you for something and you go do it again you deserve to be sacked. Has nothing to do with his race.
I don’t get his obsession and begging for attention on social media? Guys a multi millionaire famous athlete!

Maybe he should go back to rehab:lol he relapsed in his addictions of being a dumb tryhard cu*nt

[QUOTE=AlternativeAcc.;14777834]If Austin Reaves was shirtless in a vehicle with a million dollar chain on his neck, blasting rap music, and toting a pistol by his head with a grill in his mouth he would not be called a redneck. He would quite literally be called a fake thug just like Ja and it would resurrect the word 'w1gger' into the vernacular. Those words went away because white people wearing baggy clothes and acting like that went away.

It has nothing to do with the color of Ja's skin. How do you not understand this :roll:[/QUOTE]



So you mean if you wrap him in things people associate with black culture he’d be more likely to be called a thug than if he did whatever he normally does + had a gun?

And you think you’re making an opposing point? People associate looking like Ja with being a thug. Especially when mixed with a gun.

Gun+southern white guy packaging…called something else.

[QUOTE=Kblaze8855;14777847]So you mean if you wrap him in things people associate with black culture he’d be more likely to be called a thug than if he did whatever he normally does + had a gun?

And you think you’re making an opposing point? People associate looking like Ja with being a thug. Especially when mixed with a gun.

Gun+southern white guy packaging…called something else.[/QUOTE]

I mean if he acted the exact same way in the exact same context as Ja he would be labeled as the exact same thing. That's what I'm saying... I know he wouldn't be called a redneck.


You can't just pretend that black rappers have been promoting that image for decades and claim racism when people associate it with thug behavior. That is literally what it is and what they have been promoting in the most impactful ways possible for young people (rap music) they are associated with black culture because that is what famous blacks have promoted for decades.


Again, If Reaves was throwing up gang signs, beating up minors, and posing with guns you think he'd be labeled as a .... redneck? And he wouldn't get the same flak?

:roll:

[QUOTE=Kblaze8855;14777832]They’d be called rednecks. That’s what such people are called. No need to search for a word that nobody uses anymore and almost nobody ever did. [B]Deep South, gun toting, white boys listening to Deep South gun toting white guy music and cutting up are called rednecks. [/B]Just the world we have.[/QUOTE]

First of all rednecks might pose for pictures with shotguns on a hunting trip, but posing with pistols to project a gang affiliated image is not a redneck thing. Theres also no redneck music that really centers on guns. If a white guy posted the kind of pic Ja did, he would absolutely get called a wannabe thug. Nobody would think redneck, thats a completely unrelated image.

Rednecks grow up with guns like they grow up with hammers and tire-irons and screwdrivers. It’s not something that represents toughness. Theyre tools, not fashion accessories. Rednecks dont think it’s some big deal to have a gun. If they share a pic of one it’s likely because they got an interesting new model or whatever.

It’s really not in that culture to use handguns for try-harding.

white kid would be called a school shooter... neither one is flattering

[QUOTE=coin24;14777846]Dumb people go straight to the race card, what a surprise..

Ja is a moron. If your employer suspends you for something and you go do it again you deserve to be sacked. Has nothing to do with his race.
I don’t get his obsession and begging for attention on social media? Guys a multi millionaire famous athlete!

Maybe he should go back to rehab:lol he relapsed in his addictions of being a dumb tryhard cu*nt[/QUOTE]

It's crazy that there could be a rehab for being a psychopath. Not alcohol or drugs... just... for being crazy and dumb. I guess it's all one in the same. The lo0ney bin.

[QUOTE=tpols;14777782]I guess it matters where you're from. In the northeast it's like...a hard-core felony to be going around flashing guns like that. But then in the south its totally legal. For a lot of people up north nobody has guns but the criminals.[/QUOTE]

Yeah... I was thinking something like this. Strict gun laws in California helped me to draw that association.

[QUOTE=tpols;14777855]It's crazy that there could be a rehab for being a psychopath. Not alcohol or drugs... [B]just... for being crazy and dumb. I guess it's all one in the same. The lo0ney bin.[/B][/QUOTE]


The Loney Bin :yaohappy: